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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:38 PM Aug 2013

Sheriff Says Crosses to Be Put Where Bodies Found

Source: Associated Press

Sheriff Says Crosses to Be Put Where Bodies Found
PHOENIX August 16, 2013 (AP)
By BRIAN SKOLOFF Associated Press

Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced Thursday that his deputies will begin placing white crosses near the sites where authorities find bodies of immigrants who are dying in the desert after crossing the border from Mexico.

The sheriff stood amid about a dozen crosses to announce an effort that he said would serve as a reminder of just how dangerous the journey is from Mexico through the rugged desert of southern Arizona.

He said four bodies have been found in the last four days near Gila Bend after succumbing to the scorching desert heat. Two others were rescued this week.

Each cross also will be numbered and assigned GPS coordinates to aid his deputies in rescuing people who find themselves in distress in the area and can call for help, the sheriff said.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sheriff-crosses-put-bodies-found-19975842

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Sheriff Says Crosses to Be Put Where Bodies Found (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2013 OP
Right atreides1 Aug 2013 #1
He's also said he's going to bill people whom he rescues sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #2
Does he even have that authority? LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #16
How 'bout you put the money you would spend on stupid crosses into water stations? jtuck004 Aug 2013 #3
Water stations means he gets to put up fewer crosses, though Posteritatis Aug 2013 #9
Yup. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #10
Why water stations? hughee99 Aug 2013 #11
Because that decision is not in his hands. What he does locally is. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #12
Ah, okay, I see what you're saying. n/t hughee99 Aug 2013 #14
What is the extent of knowledge outside the US regarding use of 911? LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #19
I don't know. They could put a sign that says "For Help" in a dozen languages jtuck004 Aug 2013 #21
If he could,he would string up the skeletons on pikes. Thor_MN Aug 2013 #4
Pikes warrant46 Aug 2013 #5
Skulls Thor_MN Aug 2013 #6
This is a pic from "Game of Thrones". Ned Starks head. FarPoint Aug 2013 #8
Good Eye !! warrant46 Aug 2013 #15
Hypocrisy leaves me gobsmacked curlyred Aug 2013 #7
You're walking through the desert, headed north. christx30 Aug 2013 #13
Since he apparently has the resources why doesn't he just LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #17
That last sentence doesn't make sense. LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #18
i think the idea is the cross will be numbered ie #456, when you call 911 loli phabay Aug 2013 #20
But why would someone illegally there call for help LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #22
erm you realise its in a life or death situation, when your kids are dying from the heat your gonna loli phabay Aug 2013 #23
"why would someone illegally there call for help" Well this will sound radical but maybe cstanleytech Aug 2013 #24
Fear is usually a more powerful motivator that kills off reason. LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #25
I dont know about you but the fear of dying for me would cstanleytech Aug 2013 #27
But you aren't in their shoes and cannot unequivically state you would. LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #28
Nor are you. nt cstanleytech Aug 2013 #29
will the coords be released to geocachers? MisterP Aug 2013 #26

atreides1

(16,071 posts)
1. Right
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:55 PM
Aug 2013

Like he really cares...just trying to show the softer side, I guess!

It wasn't that long ago when he foaming at the mouth about them entering the country illegally, and now we're expected to believe that he gives a shit about the ones who've died?

What a bunch of BS!

LiberalFighter

(50,858 posts)
16. Does he even have that authority?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:47 PM
Aug 2013

If so, it needs to be revoked.

I see he was referring to recover costs via the federal govt. Boy these boys when they talk about states rights and not wanting the feds to be involved. Then they turn around and want the feds to be responsible for what happens in their territory.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
3. How 'bout you put the money you would spend on stupid crosses into water stations?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 09:30 PM
Aug 2013


You could assign those GPS coordinates just as easiliy.

Or perhaps you just want to make a political point.

And do a lot of these people have working cell phones to... "call for help" ...?

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
9. Water stations means he gets to put up fewer crosses, though
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:22 AM
Aug 2013

I think we all know he'd rather see more of them die than be rescued, and this way he gets to pander to the Christian base too.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
11. Why water stations?
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 03:51 PM
Aug 2013

If you want to make sure they can cross safely, why not just let them cross the boarder at the checkpoint like everyone else?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
21. I don't know. They could put a sign that says "For Help" in a dozen languages
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:46 PM
Aug 2013

and a button that sets off a beacon and a signal, run with a small battery and solar panel like the do on life rafts for not too much money, I expect.

They know it will mean trouble, and I expect some would die before pushing it, but what the sheriff is proposing is just a bunch of markers so he can show people that "those" people are running across the border.

Short of that, digging a hole and putting 50 gallons of water in it, checking them periodically, would be the human thing to do. And, of course, that could set off a beacon as well.

curlyred

(1,879 posts)
7. Hypocrisy leaves me gobsmacked
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:30 PM
Aug 2013

Good Lord. I knew the guy was a total dick but this is beyond anything I could have imagined.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
13. You're walking through the desert, headed north.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

You come across 5 crosses near a tree. Subtle message that says "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

LiberalFighter

(50,858 posts)
17. Since he apparently has the resources why doesn't he just
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:52 PM
Aug 2013

build a fucking wall along the Maricopa county line so he can keep them out? Or build a moat along the county line filled with alligators like in Jack Benny's home.

LiberalFighter

(50,858 posts)
18. That last sentence doesn't make sense.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:04 PM
Aug 2013
Each cross also will be numbered and assigned GPS coordinates to aid his deputies in rescuing people who find themselves in distress in the area and can call for help, the sheriff said.



Are these illegals that are trying to cross will they use the gps coordinates when calling 911? Why would they call 911 or even in some cases know to use 911? Will he require anyone crossing that area to have a cell phone so they can call for help?

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
20. i think the idea is the cross will be numbered ie #456, when you call 911
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
Aug 2013

You tell them you are at cross 456 and dispatch has the gps location of that cross in theory allowing a deputy to respond to the correct location.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
23. erm you realise its in a life or death situation, when your kids are dying from the heat your gonna
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:22 PM
Aug 2013

Call if you can.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
24. "why would someone illegally there call for help" Well this will sound radical but maybe
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:58 PM
Aug 2013

they want to avoid dying?

LiberalFighter

(50,858 posts)
25. Fear is usually a more powerful motivator that kills off reason.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:08 PM
Aug 2013

Reasonable solutions are not going to work in those situations.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
27. I dont know about you but the fear of dying for me would
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
Aug 2013

be a powerful motivator in calling for help than the fear of being caught.

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