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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:05 AM Aug 2013

Islamists cancel Cairo rallies for 'security reasons'

Source: AFP

CAIRO: An Islamist alliance opposed to the Egyptian military's ouster of president Mohamed Morsi called off rallies that they planned to stage in Cairo on Sunday, citing concerns about security.

"Several marches in Cairo have been cancelled for security reasons," said Yasmine Adel, a spokeswoman with the Anti-Coup coalition.

She said some other marches were taking place, however, but it was not immediately possible to confirm.

In central Cairo's Dokki neighbourhood, residents took over a mosque the Islamists had planned to use as a starting point for a march and put up a poster of a slain policeman, an AFP correspondent said.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Islamists-cancel-Cairo-rallies-for-security-reasons/articleshow/21899121.cms

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Islamists cancel Cairo rallies for 'security reasons' (Original Post) Bosonic Aug 2013 OP
Any chance they can cancel the genocide against the Copts? jessie04 Aug 2013 #1
Sounds like Salafists NOT the Moslem Brotherhood. happyslug Aug 2013 #26
I guess the "rage" fizzled out... n/t cosmicone Aug 2013 #2
Maybe they decided not to get murdered by the hundreds again. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #3
There was no massacre cosmicone Aug 2013 #5
The few hudred dead might not feel the same way about it as you do. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #6
Probably not, but we have to be objective here cosmicone Aug 2013 #7
Where I come from a few hundred dead is a massacre. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #9
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #12
So how many would have had to die before you would call it a Massacre? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #14
I think that may be the single most disgusting post I've ever seen on DU. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #16
Well it certainly is. How can hundreds dead in the street not be a massacre? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #17
"500 [people gunned down by police] is well-maintained law and order." Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #15
I've alerted on this post and marked it as TOS violation. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #18
Boy, you have high hopes Scootaloo Aug 2013 #19
I was pleasantly surprised. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #24
Results of your alert: Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #20
Yes it was recieved. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #21
This post is an atrocious lie. It's is shameful. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #10
The death toll is in the hundreds, all civilians. Your opinion is disgusting. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #23
Wow! Bragi Aug 2013 #29
Religious kooks tired of getting their asses beat tabasco Aug 2013 #4
ROFLMAO n/t cosmicone Aug 2013 #8
This shit is sickening. Laugh at mass murder. Hah hah, so funny. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #11
Hopefully the first of many defeats for the religious extremeists n/t Devil Child Aug 2013 #13
+1 Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #28
good rollin74 Aug 2013 #22
Your humanity (or lack thereof) is duly noted. On a practical level... Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #25
I am sorry, but I suspect other people then the Moslem Brotherhood happyslug Aug 2013 #27
You really think the Salafists John2 Aug 2013 #30
Technically the Salagist support the coup happyslug Aug 2013 #31
Your sick apologia for mass murder is also noted. This is a very revealing thread. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #32
 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
26. Sounds like Salafists NOT the Moslem Brotherhood.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:55 PM
Aug 2013

I am sorry, the Moslem Brotherhood wants an Islamic Egypt, but Islam accepts Christians as worthy of being citizens. The Salafists are supported by Saudai Arabia, which tends to be Wahhabist (another name for Salafism), who are KNOWN to be anti-Shiite and anti-Christian (as while as Anti-Jewish).

Now, I can not exclude Moslem Brotherhood are doing the attacks on the Christians, but my first choice for such attacks would be the Salifasts NOT the Moslem Brotherhood. Now, the reports say Moslem and Moslem Brotherhhod, but nothing from the Brotherhood itself (i.e. the people attack who the Government approves they can attack the Moslem Brotherhood NOT necessaly the people doing the attacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_movement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. Maybe they decided not to get murdered by the hundreds again.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:43 PM
Aug 2013

I seriously doubt they have gone mellow in the face of the massacre.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
5. There was no massacre
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:12 PM
Aug 2013

Let's not resort to hyperbole.

A few hundred dead out of a roudy crowd of over 25,000 is not a massacre. The army has a duty to maintain law and order. If the fucked up Islamic Brotherhood cared for life, they wouldn't be resorting to violence.

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #9)

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
16. I think that may be the single most disgusting post I've ever seen on DU.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:35 PM
Aug 2013

It's like we have our very own resident Goebbels.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
17. Well it certainly is. How can hundreds dead in the street not be a massacre?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
Aug 2013

I am not a fan of the MB but killing them in the streets is not the answer.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
15. "500 [people gunned down by police] is well-maintained law and order."
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:33 PM
Aug 2013

You have made yourself horribly and abundantly clear. You are an apologist for mass murder and crimes against humanity. You have gone way over the line. Just sickening.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
19. Boy, you have high hopes
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:57 PM
Aug 2013

The ToS does not apply to Muslims. It never has. It never will. It also does not apply to blacks, women, roma, latinos, Mormons, Arabs, Indians, Native Americans, and many other groups besides.

Edit: Holy shit I stand corrected, it DID get hidden. 4-2, the third stooge might have misclicked? (yeah, my cynicism remains)

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
24. I was pleasantly surprised.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:22 PM
Aug 2013

I didn't have high hopes, but what else was there to do? That post was just beyond the pale.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
20. Results of your alert:
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:57 PM
Aug 2013

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert
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Where I come from,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=568730

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YOUR COMMENTS:

This poster is a notorious anti-Islamic bigot. Here, he distorts what happened in Cairo and calls the killing of 500 demonstrators "well-maintained law and order." If this isn't beyond the pale for DU, I don't know what is.

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:51 PM, and voted 4-2 to HIDE IT.

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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. This post is an atrocious lie. It's is shameful.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:22 PM
Aug 2013

You ought to delete it. People who says things like that sound like Nazis.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
23. The death toll is in the hundreds, all civilians. Your opinion is disgusting.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:24 PM
Aug 2013

830 - according to Reuters, almost all unarmed civilians killed by the police and the army. Shooting unarmed demonstrators is an atrocity. Heck, we condemned Syria for shooting armed demonstrators.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
29. Wow!
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:51 AM
Aug 2013

This is probably the most un-DU post I've seen in DU. I mean we have lots of supporters now of the security state, the surveillance state, and official lawlessness in general, but I think this is the first time I've seen open support here for a military massacre of protesters. Are we heading into new territory now?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
25. Your humanity (or lack thereof) is duly noted. On a practical level...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:24 PM
Aug 2013

....do you really think this ongoing massacre is going to make life easier for religious minorities in Egypt, especially those that have allied themselves with the murderous coupmeisters?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
27. I am sorry, but I suspect other people then the Moslem Brotherhood
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:59 PM
Aug 2013

See my post above, but there is something wrong with these attacks. The MB MAY be doing it, but my bets are on the Salalists who SUPPORT the government.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
30. You really think the Salafists
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:47 AM
Aug 2013

support the Government? The Salafists are supported by Saudi Arabia. They don't support the more Liberal groups in Egypt. It was the Salafists that teamed with the Muslim Brotherhood to defeat the more Liberal groups. Without their support, Morsi wouldn't have won. The election was 51.8 percent for Morsi and 48.9 percent for the more Liberal groups. The Muslim Brotherhood would have lost the election without the support of the Salafists.

The Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists are the groups waging War in Lebanon and Syria. They are also waging War in Iraq. If this was the United States and the Muslim Brotherhood outnumbered us, I doubt anybody in the United States would be calling for their kind of Democracy. Morsi claimed that he wouldn't prevent any Egyptian from waging War in Syria, yet their sympatheizers want people to cry about them losing their lives in Egypt, when many are killing people elsewhere?

So let us get this. The Muslim Brotherhood groupies, can incite violence, with massive demonstrations, on people,and it is called mass murder when you fight back against them? This is what it amounts to. This is all orchestrated by the Muslim Brotherhood and their supporters. Your defense of the Muslim Brotherhood is noted however.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
31. Technically the Salagist support the coup
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:56 PM
Aug 2013

Thus my comment they support the present Government. Saudi Arabia supports the Coup (and that is probably the reason the Salagist support the Coup). The attacks on the Copts sound more like something the Salagist would do, more then the Moslem Brotherhood. The Moslem Brotherhood MAY be doing it, but all I was pointing out it is something more in line with the Salagists dogma then the dogma of the Moslem Brotherhood.

Furthermore, while Morsi barely received a Majority of Votes, between Moslem Brotherhood won the Legislative body overwhelmingly

In 2010 won 105 out of 175 positions up for election, the Al Nour party that represents the Salafist won an additional 45 seats:

http://www.electionguide.org/election.php?ID=2213


Article on why the Islamist won the last election (and would win any future election):
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/egypt%E2%80%99s-elections-why-islamists-won

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