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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:14 PM Aug 2013

NSA Surveillance Said to Be Broader Than Initially Believed

Source: The Hill

NSA surveillance said to be broader than initially believed

By Jonathan Easley - 08/20/13 10:00 PM ET

The National Security Agency’s (NSA) reach covers about 75 percent of all U.S. Internet traffic through a slew of partnerships with some of the largest telecom companies in the country, according to a Wall Street Journal report released late Tuesday.

According to the report, gathered from interviews with current and former government officials and telecom industry workers, telecom companies like AT&T filter the data for the NSA, but in looking for communications that begin or end outside of the country, often sweep up unrelated domestic communications.

In addition, the surveillance network at times retains the content of emails and phone calls sent between U.S. citizens as part of a dragnet meant to capture correspondences between foreign targets.

The NSA defended the practice, telling the Journal that if domestic communications are “incidentally collected during NSA’s lawful signals intelligence activities,” that the agency follows “minimization procedures that are approved by the U.S. attorney general and designed to protect the privacy of United States persons.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/317971-nsa-surveillance-said-to-be-broader-than-initially-believed#ixzz2cZNG7EAZ

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NSA Surveillance Said to Be Broader Than Initially Believed (Original Post) Hissyspit Aug 2013 OP
Ya don't say... MNBrewer Aug 2013 #1
No shit. Autumn Aug 2013 #2
seriously this is news? PatrynXX Aug 2013 #7
Than believed by whom?! JackRiddler Aug 2013 #3
There's one born every minute pscot Aug 2013 #17
It always is worse than initially believed gopiscrap Aug 2013 #4
Can't wait to hear the defenders chime in fujiyama Aug 2013 #5
UPS, Fedex, rail traffic, trucks, radio devices of all types quadrature Aug 2013 #6
I think I've seen this headline before... MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #8
75% is not "incidental". It's entirely by design, and they won't give it up voluntarily. leveymg Aug 2013 #9
Repeated over and over Iliyah Aug 2013 #10
No shit? Hey ...they wern't lying to us again were they? I was just about to trust them ...NOT! L0oniX Aug 2013 #11
K&R blackspade Aug 2013 #12
Why does this not make me feel are warm & fuzzy & safe & shit like that? I do not trust these people peacebird Aug 2013 #13
Nothing to see here folks! durablend Aug 2013 #14
Make that 100% Red Oak Aug 2013 #15
Someone explained it was like two pennies in an Olympic size pool full of beer... Octafish Aug 2013 #16
I suspect it's more like an idiot at a Teabagger rally on a day that ends with "y". n/t hughee99 Aug 2013 #23
I'm SHOCKED I tell ya, SHOCKED! NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #18
If we were ever NOT lied to by the US government there would be flying camels. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #19
Who could have known?!?! blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #20
Well I'll be. n/t myrna minx Aug 2013 #21
Again. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #22

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
7. seriously this is news?
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:05 AM
Aug 2013

oh duh. say where's the news been for 50 yrs?? I'll go back to bed. wake me when we bother to do something about it..

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
5. Can't wait to hear the defenders chime in
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:54 PM
Aug 2013

Actually, no I really don't care to hear what they have to say at this point. Most have been put on ignore at this point. They'll be defending this till the end.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. 75% is not "incidental". It's entirely by design, and they won't give it up voluntarily.
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:44 AM
Aug 2013

They won't even tell us exactly what the rules are for "minimization." The Agency has no credibility left.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. Repeated over and over
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:33 AM
Aug 2013

ok I get it, NSA is wrong, we are a police state, education means nothing and head starts is crap. Voting, who cares, and rape so what, and now. .

durablend

(7,459 posts)
14. Nothing to see here folks!
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 07:48 AM
Aug 2013

If you disagree with all this you're emboldening the terrists and helping them win and also helping the Republicans to win.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
15. Make that 100%
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:19 AM
Aug 2013

Given that Netflix video is about 25% of the total Internet traffic in the US and given it is unlikely the NSA actively monitors your streaming video from Netflix, that would mean, given their typical parsing of language, that the NSA monitors 100% of the non-Netflix internet traffic in the US.

I wonder if the SEC has ever had to prosecute an NSA employee or subcontractor for insider trading?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. Someone explained it was like two pennies in an Olympic size pool full of beer...
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:41 AM
Aug 2013

...on a Tuesday during the second full moon of summer of alternating leap years.

Hunh.

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