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BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:43 PM Aug 2013

Putin Bans Protests at Games

Source: Wall. St. Journal

Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed an executive order banning protests in and around the 2014 Winter Olympics site in Sochi for a 10-week period that includes the Games.

The order, which was signed Aug. 19 and printed in Russia's official government newspaper on Friday, says "meetings, rallies, demonstrations, parades and pickets that aren't tied to the Olympic Games and Paralympic Games, and that are planned from Jan. 7 to March 21, 2014, should take place at another time."

The order comes amid a Western outcry over a new Russian regulation—known colloquially as the "gay propaganda" law—that prohibits people in Russia from publicly condoning "nontraditional relationships" in front of minors. The law, which levies fines for actions that promote "the social equivalence of traditional and nontraditional sexual relations," has led some in the U.S. to call for a boycott of the 2014 Games. President Barack Obama, however, has ruled out such a move.

The executive order published Friday isn't the first Russian regulation to tamp down on public demonstrations. Russia's Parliament introduced new restrictions on public gatherings in June 2012, stepping up punishments for unauthorized rallies just a few months after mass demonstrations against Putin's rule swept Moscow...




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Putin Bans Protests at Games (Original Post) BeyondGeography Aug 2013 OP
Bully for him. nt onehandle Aug 2013 #1
Literally davidpdx Aug 2013 #21
And Putin wonders why people hate him sakabatou Aug 2013 #2
Is it too late... CSStrowbridge Aug 2013 #3
the backup city ? dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #6
Vancouver. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #10
That's a strange suggestion. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #12
Human rights are not dependent Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #13
Russian LGBT do not want it moved. joshcryer Aug 2013 #25
I hate... DirtyDawg Aug 2013 #4
What you do is find someone who will make them for free davidpdx Aug 2013 #22
Putin the Putz Gus Lammas Aug 2013 #5
Vancouver awaits SCVDem Aug 2013 #7
I really don't like Putin and his politics, but... OldEurope Aug 2013 #8
I wish the Olympic Committee would get some "stones"... SoapBox Aug 2013 #9
It won't happen davidpdx Aug 2013 #23
don't worry, mr. snowden will soon be exposing mr. putin for the whole okieinpain Aug 2013 #11
Can you imagine how many recs you'd get if you had replaced the name Putin with Obama? You'd be.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #14
The ironies abound BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #15
Which is why I love the journalist that called out RT as the Kremlin financed, Anti-American Pravda Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #19
Comrade Snowden--I wonder if he will be allowed to go to the Games. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #16
He may not go to the games, but with all the hustle & bustle, he'll probably take that chance.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #20
You do know that not every post about Russia is about Snowden, right? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #17
Like I've said, this whole situation is BEGGING. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #18
Putin the bully davidpdx Aug 2013 #24
Anyone get their bridges sold? joshcryer Aug 2013 #26
Soooo, instead of JUST having a protest, Volaris Aug 2013 #27
. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #28

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
3. Is it too late...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:13 PM
Aug 2013

Is it too late to switch to the backup city? Of course, I really doubt that will happen, because the IOC seems fine with what Russia is doing.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
12. That's a strange suggestion.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:20 PM
Aug 2013

If they did move it, which I sincerely doubt anyway, they would keep it the European side of the Atlantic.

Aside from that, unless my maths is crook, the number who want it moved, represents less than 0.0002 % of the world population which makes it a bit of a non starter.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
25. Russian LGBT do not want it moved.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 10:56 PM
Aug 2013

They will disobey this marching order.

I hope in that event you are supportive of them.

 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
4. I hate...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:14 PM
Aug 2013

...to give this away, let alone lose out on the financial benefits of exploiting same, but if somebody were to, secretly, manufacture a number of rainbow-colored gloves, and spirit them into the Olympic Village, one of the all-time effective protests could be replicated. Namely the Black-Power, award platform, gloved-fist-raised, salute from Carlos and Smith...all they would need are a number of athletes willing to thumb their nose, so to speak, at Putin and this Russian 'law'. Of course there would need a lot of participants so that they would have to either arrest the lot of em, cancel the rest of the games, or go along with the whole thing.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. What you do is find someone who will make them for free
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 09:45 PM
Aug 2013

Then have them shipped in and distributed for free. If you are going to do a protest, don't have people buy them because then they are funding a cause and can be accused by the Russian Government of doing more than just the protest itself. It is a way to insulate or protect people who choose to participate.

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
8. I really don't like Putin and his politics, but...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:31 PM
Aug 2013

... restraining any political activities during Olympic Games is normal.
I don't like this, but it is not a Russian characteristic. It happened in Munich, 1972, too.
What is sad, is that showing you are gay is considered a crime in Russia, and so showing a rainbow flag is considered a political statement.

Boycott would be the thing to do. But then, I'm not interested in Olympic sports anyway. To me it's a mere waste of money with no important impact to anybody's life, except those taxpayers who have to pay for.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. I wish the Olympic Committee would get some "stones"...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:38 PM
Aug 2013

And move this...ya, it's VERY late in the preparations but since Russia is one of THE premiere Civil and Human Rights abusers, it's
time for the Olympics to move.

I love the Olympics and have watched/listened faithfully to the Summer and Winter Games for years...this year may be different.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
23. It won't happen
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 09:48 PM
Aug 2013

But this should serve as a warning for other candidate cities in the future. If human rights are at stake then it should be brought up during the bidding process. I know in this case no one outside Russia knew about the new laws, but hopefully in the future people are more proactive about putting pressure on the IOC.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
14. Can you imagine how many recs you'd get if you had replaced the name Putin with Obama? You'd be....
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 05:41 PM
Aug 2013

all over the Greatest Page, but DU doesn't want to hurt the feelings of Comrade Snowden's new BFF.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
19. Which is why I love the journalist that called out RT as the Kremlin financed, Anti-American Pravda
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:21 PM
Aug 2013

outlet it truly is. I'm much older than the 18-29 demo that seem to be the only ones who matter nowadays, but there's something wrong when even an effectively dictatorial state like Russia gets more props than our own country. What Lon & son don't acknowledge is that not many countries, especially Russia, would've provided the kind of trajectory for a high school dropout to wind up on the government payroll, earning a six figure salary, living in a luxury bungalow in Hawaii. I guess loyalty is lost on that family.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
20. He may not go to the games, but with all the hustle & bustle, he'll probably take that chance....
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:23 PM
Aug 2013

to flee to Bolivia. I bet that's the plan. He'll use the Olympics to get the hell out of Dodge.

DinahMoeHum

(21,771 posts)
18. Like I've said, this whole situation is BEGGING. . .
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:16 PM
Aug 2013

for a "Tommie Smith/John Carlos" protest on a podium during the Games.

As for that purse-with-two-legs Putin, he can go suck a puck.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
26. Anyone get their bridges sold?
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 10:58 PM
Aug 2013

I know that when Russia said they wouldn't persecute LGBT that a lot of bridges were being offered, I'm just wondering if anyone sold one or not.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
27. Soooo, instead of JUST having a protest,
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:34 PM
Aug 2013

NOW it can be a legitimate Act of Civil Disobedience. Brilliant of him.

This is NOT a difficult concept. Weilding Power is like holding Water. The tighter you squeeze, the easier it slips from between your fingers.

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