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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:56 AM Aug 2013

David Miranda row: New law 'needed to protect secrets'

Source: BBC

Anti-terror laws should be strengthened to prevent leaks of official secrets, former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Lord Blair has told the BBC.

He was speaking after police seized what they said were thousands of classified documents from David Miranda - the partner of a Guardian journalist.

Lord Blair said publication of such material could put lives at risk.

He suggested new laws were needed to cover those who obtained secret material without proper authority.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23832492

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David Miranda row: New law 'needed to protect secrets' (Original Post) bemildred Aug 2013 OP
What he is really saying: Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #1
He wants to outlaw journalism, is what it is, except when the government approves. bemildred Aug 2013 #2
Just like allowing Imbedded Journalists warrant46 Aug 2013 #11
Wreckless dawn frenzy adams Aug 2013 #3
I think he suckered them myself, did it on purpose to see if the spooks would bite. bemildred Aug 2013 #4
Your post is entirely conjecture. Maedhros Aug 2013 #9
Ian Blair, head of the Met Police when they killed the innocent Brazilian de Menezes muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #5
I would wager he has much to hide himself. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #6
Reality is a biatch, heh? nt Cryptoad Aug 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author JustanAngel Aug 2013 #8
It won't come from Taylor Swift or Kanye West mimi85 Aug 2013 #10
Genius! JustanAngel Aug 2013 #12
 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
1. What he is really saying:
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013

We need more laws to punish people who shed light on our crimes against the people.


Authoritarians are the same no matter what era or country they come from.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. He wants to outlaw journalism, is what it is, except when the government approves.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:10 AM
Aug 2013

Which is of course, propaganda, not journalism.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
3. Wreckless
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:45 AM
Aug 2013

Greenwald should not have used his partner in this situation. Why expose a loved one to this. Surely he didn't think the police would not be watching. But I think Greenwald thinks of himself, first. That's why those who trusted him (Manning, Snowden Assange) have been deprived of their freedom.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. I think he suckered them myself, did it on purpose to see if the spooks would bite.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:47 AM
Aug 2013

They did.

"All noise is good."

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
9. Your post is entirely conjecture.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:43 PM
Aug 2013

It's likely that Miranda, as Greenwald's spouse, was completely aware of the risk and agreed to help anyway. You have no way of knowing what Greenwald's motivations may be, and laying the blame for the government's deprivation of Manning's, Assange's and Snowden's freedom is frankly absurd - especially for Manning, who had no contact with Greenwald prior to and during his leaking activities.

Essentially, a post of no substance taking a poorly-executed swipe at Greenwald's integrity.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
5. Ian Blair, head of the Met Police when they killed the innocent Brazilian de Menezes
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:56 AM
Aug 2013
Several months into his tenure, Jean Charles de Menezes was shot and killed by armed police who mistakenly believed he was a suicide bomber.

After the shooting Blair telephoned the Chairman of the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) and wrote a letter to the Home Office stating that "the shooting that has just occurred at Stockwell is not to be referred to the IPCC and that they will be given no access to the scene at the present time".[6]

Blair has since claimed that he made this order in an effort to prevent critical aspects of an ongoing investigation to be leaked. He said, "The IPCC has a duty to provide as much information as it can to members of the deceased's family and I felt that supplying details of tactics or sources to the family of a suspected terrorist could put further lives at risk."[7]

Blair also claimed that a warning had been issued prior to the shooting. The IPCC held an investigation into what later turned out to be a false statement, and into allegations of attempts to delay an inquiry. On 2 August 2007 the IPCC announced its findings that the allegations against Blair couldn't be substantiated, instead placing the blame for misleading the public on Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman, who had failed to report his suspicions that an innocent man had been killed, and had released contradictory statements to the press.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Blair#Shooting_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes


He should never make any public pronouncement on 'putting lives at risk', particularly when an innocent Brazilian is involved.

Response to bemildred (Original post)

JustanAngel

(44 posts)
12. Genius!
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:39 AM
Aug 2013

Thanks for the song! Had the honor of attending one of his concerts. When he performed this song, it was like a soulful spirit had embraced us all. What a lovely memory!

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