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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 01:01 AM Sep 2013

Russia FM: Military Strike on Syria without UNSC Approval Is Act of Aggression

Source: Al-Manar TV Lebanon

Moscow Informed Washington Saturday through diplomatic channels that any military operation against Syria, without the authorization of the UN Security Council, is an act of aggression and a violation of the principles of international law.

"The Russian side has confirmed that any use of force against Syria by the United States, without authorization of the UN Security Council, is an act of aggression and flagrant violation of the principles of international law," a statement posted on the Foreign Ministry official website after the meeting between the deputy Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov and the U.S. Ambassador to Moscow Michael McFaul read.

Read more: http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?fromval=1&cid=22&frid=22&eid=108535



Something for Congress and Obama to consider, international law.
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Russia FM: Military Strike on Syria without UNSC Approval Is Act of Aggression (Original Post) Coyotl Sep 2013 OP
International Law hasn't stopped Russia or China Iliyah Sep 2013 #1
What do you mean by this? Coyotl Sep 2013 #2
Maybe Georgia? joshcryer Sep 2013 #10
Shhhh iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #11
Except he is wrong about Georgia. To break up delusions, there have to be some. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #18
Except the European Commission concluded go west young man Sep 2013 #15
I did not say they started it. joshcryer Sep 2013 #16
Not a good example. dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #20
BS, countries asked for UNSC. joshcryer Sep 2013 #21
Iraq was agression Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #3
So what are they going to do about it? Renew Deal Sep 2013 #4
Good question. I don't think we want to find out the answers. Coyotl Sep 2013 #5
No, we don't. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #7
Grammar police: If I were Obama. Coyotl Sep 2013 #22
Thanks for the ticket, Officer. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #24
China could stop exporting stuff to us? golfguru Sep 2013 #6
Or, they could use all our debts to them to start an oil reserve and drive us bankrupt Coyotl Sep 2013 #8
Except we have a population of roughly 300 million and they have a population of cstanleytech Sep 2013 #27
So is massacring Chechens. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #9
+1 iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #12
Georgia was iffy. joshcryer Sep 2013 #14
See, the response to weakness iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #13
I recommend finding another source. David__77 Sep 2013 #17
This do ? dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #19
Well, this is obviously true under international law daleo Sep 2013 #23
I agree gopiscrap Sep 2013 #25
Mmm international law. An intriguing issue perhaps we should ask Alexander Litvinenko for cstanleytech Sep 2013 #26

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. International Law hasn't stopped Russia or China
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 01:04 AM
Sep 2013

huh. That does not frighten the America and they know it.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
15. Except the European Commission concluded
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 03:05 AM
Sep 2013

that the war in Georgia was not started by the Russians. The Russians were actually praised for showing restraint considering they could have rolled over the whole country after what Saakashvilli did. The American media played the whole war as Russian agression when in actuality the opposite happened. The EU report is below.

http://www.laender-analysen.de/cad/pdf/CaucasusAnalyticalDigest10.pdf

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
16. I did not say they started it.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 03:07 AM
Sep 2013

I said that they ignored requests to take it to the UN.

The OP is talking about ignoring the UNSC. Russia did that.

edit: see my post #14 correcting the other poster, I am not making a statement about Georgia. I'm not sure whether the UN was necessary or not but I think it would've been a decent move.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
20. Not a good example.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:49 AM
Sep 2013

That was a set up designed to antagonise Russia not helped by arms shipments from Israel. The shipments were from Israel's MIC , not their government , but eventually their government blocked them anyway partly out of embarrassment.

Easy subject to search.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
21. BS, countries asked for UNSC.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:54 AM
Sep 2013

Please don't be obtuse. The UNSC was completely ignored in that situation.

I'll admit that I don't know if the UN was necessary, but the OP was talking about UNSC being ignored, this is objectively true.

 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
7. No, we don't.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 01:58 AM
Sep 2013

Hopefully our elected representatives will rein in the American exceptionalism for once, and abide by International Law.

If I was Obama, I'd be meeting with Putin right about now to beg him to show me how to put the pin back in the grenade.

But I'm not and he obviously has more important things to do.



 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
24. Thanks for the ticket, Officer.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:46 PM
Sep 2013

I personally find his frequent use of "folks" to be more than irritating.

Reminds me of Bush.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
8. Or, they could use all our debts to them to start an oil reserve and drive us bankrupt
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:07 AM
Sep 2013

by buying up the world's supply.

cstanleytech

(26,246 posts)
27. Except we have a population of roughly 300 million and they have a population of
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:50 AM
Sep 2013

1.3 billion so tell me who will be more hurt in the long run? The short term effects would hurt sure but the US would recover because what would really happen is alot of the goods made in China that we buy would likely shift back to being made here so no I dont think China is that suicidal.

David__77

(23,334 posts)
17. I recommend finding another source.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 03:27 AM
Sep 2013

I would guess that any Lebanese media would be considered suspect or viewed darkly by some people.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
19. This do ?
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:44 AM
Sep 2013

The world recognizes only two justifications for armed intervention: self-defense, and U.N. Security Council approval.

International law requires that the United Nations Security Council approve military action. The United States, nevertheless, has acted in the past without such approval, when actions were taken to address “imminent threats” or to assist with “urgent humanitarian need.”

Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/leading-edge-legal-advice-everyday-matters/2013/aug/31/attacking-syria-not-legal-attack-we-must/#ixzz2dd1yPEQm


Any Lebanese media might be considered suspect or viewed darkly by about 30 here on DU out of 200,000 or so. At present complaints on the source here are noticeable only by their general absence.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
23. Well, this is obviously true under international law
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:32 AM
Sep 2013

Mind you, the fact that Russia is stating the obvious might be worth noting.

I doubt if the major powers would go to war over Syria, but the run up to WWI had plenty of such incidents, that eventually built the momentum for a worldwide war that killed tens of millions, destroyed empires, and set the stage for a pandemic that killed millions more.

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