Former Cheney aide Mary Matalin demands Syria ‘exit strategy’ from Obama
Source: Raw Story
Mary Matalin, a Republican strategist and former advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney, on Sunday said that Americans had become war wise after the Iraq war and demanded that President Barack Obama produce an exit strategy before launching an attack on Syria.
During an ABC News panel discussion, Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan observed that the president had turned the tables by asking Congress for approval to take military action over Syrias alleged use of chemical weapons on its own citizens.
I think they didnt have the support and the horror of Iraq still lingers over the United States and the world, Democratic strategist James Carville explained. And this will force attention, it will force them to bring the evidence, it will force the Congress. All in all, I think its a pretty good thing to do.
Matalin, however, suggested that Obama had a cynical plan to blame the Republicans for being obstructionists if Congress refused to authorize military force.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/01/former-cheney-aide-mary-matalin-demands-syria-exit-strategy-from-obama/
pscot
(21,024 posts)crawled up on her head and died. Is that her own hair, do you think?
who is she to "demand " anything ? Just a small "Gernegross " to make her seem important and relevant , which she certainly is not .
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)Who the hell is Mary Matalin to demand anything?
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Both her demand and my demand will be ignored.
Next.
Hekate
(90,637 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)to become "war wise".
Many of us knew that going in.
But hey, three trillion is a lot of profits.
BASTARDS!
juajen
(8,515 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I don't approve of any action in Syria but comments like this from that regime?
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)after the Navy ships are done launching missiles, they turn the ships around and leave the area...
Don't flame me, but if you understand what the President wants to do, then you know the exit strategy. There's no explanation needed to be given to Matalin. She should be smart enough to already know the answer.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)weapons from the Russians, and plenty of targets that are allies of ours to shoot at. If they shoot back, will Russia get more involved? Will we, who are too cowardly to fight on our own soil, have another proxy war going on in someone else's backyard...again?
This "limited action" is, in theory, just that, and not meant to depose the ruler. But let's say he gets killed, or the distraction allows him to be killed. His power is the only thing between about a million Sunni Muslims and utter chaos, many of whom may well die if we break the place open. Al Qaeda being the best organized group, both really fanatical AQ's and more moderate AQ's would then be in control of anything we don't destroy.
Possible, but the odds are against it being as easy as shooting a few missiles and going home in time for the weekend.
Matalin is just throwing shit against the fan - that's her job - but that's not bad question to be pondering...
You mean we'd be fighting someone with an actual airplane?
Egnever
(21,506 posts)We project our military power so we dont have to fight on our own soil.
The idea that syria has an air defense that would give us any trouble is laughable.
I am not sure what the right answer is in this situation. But we have the most commanding military in the world bar none. They arent afraid to fight anywhere be it our soil or theirs, they volunteered to do it.
Mary is an idiot.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)exactly what she is doing, and she is a smart strategist, and is married to, I think, a smarter one. Whether it will be effective or not is to be seen,
Our own military has reported that we are at risk from Syrian Air Defense - and there are a lot of shoulder-fired missiles out there that could cause real trouble. You won't be there, of course, so I can see how you wouldn't see any danger.
You are also assuming (lots of assumptions out there in this by know-nothing patriots out there to mix in with) that they will only shoot at us. Yet Syria has some very sophisticated technology, some of it pointed at Israel, and a couple of other places I suspect. And while it might be suicide, the outcome could be a country led by Al Qaeda, and perhaps a shooting war with Russia. Fun times there.
Yet you are correct, we have a commanding military, full of might and all that. We provide it by killing hundreds of innocent children and families every year, some for just playing in the dirt, arguing that their deaths are necessary to pursue some un-named bad guys. More necessary deaths as we shot thousands of fleeing, surrendering soldiers in the back as they run down a highway in Iraq. (While our real enemies, the corporations, take the homes and lives of their friends and neighbors back home). Yep, big, mighty military.
Love that flag you're waving, btw. Use it to cover the bodies?
swilton
(5,069 posts)for the chicken hawks to banter around to their sycophants in the press.
When the practicalities of war are experienced, the story is much different.
Can't stand Matalin - ever the opportunist and prima donna; her reaction is something she herself should have thought about 101/2 years ago when she was waving the flag for an Iraq War.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)... if it doesn't cause Assad's downfall. If the rebels aren't winning, then we need to do more.
And any replacement government will be out of control, so we'll need to do more.
There is no "enough".
No exit.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)pocoloco
(3,180 posts)Carville is liable to kick your ass.
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)Paladin
(28,250 posts)Keep your head down, OK?
BumRushDaShow
(128,803 posts)That black face sure turned her world upside down. Meanwhile...
White House chief of staff Andrew Card forms the White House Iraq Group, or WHIG, which aims to educate the public about the alleged threat from Iraq. WHIG is formed concurrently with the Office of Special Plans (see September 2002). A senior official involved with the group will later describe it as an internal working group, like many formed for priority issues, to make sure each part of the White House was fulfilling its responsibilities. [Washington Post, 8/10/2003] According to White House deputy press secretary Scott McClellan, the WHIG is set up in the summer of 2002 to coordinate the marketing of the [Iraq] war, and will continue as a strategic communications group after the invasion had toppled Saddam [Hussein]s regime. McClellan, who will become a full-fledged member of the WHIG after rising to the position of senior press secretary, will write: Some critics have suggested that sinister plans were discussed at the WHIG meetings to deliberately mislead the public. Not so. There were plenty of discussions about how to set the agenda and influence the narrative, but there was no conspiracy to intentionally deceive. Instead, there were straightforward discussions of communications strategies and messaging grounded in the familiar tactics of the permanent campaign. [McClellan, 2008, pp. 142] Author Craig Unger will sum up the WHIGs purpose up more bluntly: to sell the war. Members of the group include White House political advisers Karl Rove, Karen Hughes, [font size="4" color="red"]Mary Matalin[/font], James R. Wilkinson, and Nicholas E. Calio, and policy advisers led by National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, her deputy Stephen Hadley, and Vice President Dick Cheneys chief of staff, Lewis Scooter Libby. They meet weekly in the White House Situation Room. A strategic communications task force under the WHIG is charged with planning speeches and writing position papers.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=white_house_iraq_group
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)
we need to hear from right now. Actually, I don't want to hear from any member of the Bush-Cheney cabal and their supporters. Yeah, the country is "war-wise" because of people like Matalin supporting inane policies in lock-step. Ideally, this discussion would be cool-headed and apolitical. This is not just a 2013 debate, you can go as far back as the turn of the century and many of the basic questions are the same.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)CTyankee
(63,901 posts)Idiot!
indepat
(20,899 posts)fuck at herself.
Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)Whatever this woman says, do the opposite.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)All in all it is a good to have an exit strategy and I feel sure this is a part of a limited plan. Maybe Putin can advise Assad he needs to halt the chemical warfare and leave Syria.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)lead to something less than disaster.
Bombing someone without the means to back it up by accomplishing military and political objectives is just terrorism. It will make the world a worse place to live in. It isn't going to change anyone's mind, or anyone's course of action. A round of punitive bombing will only harden everyone's position. If you (and by that I mean we) are going to commit acts of war, why not have achievable military objectives?
Short of going to war, there are a number of diplomatic and economic sanctions that would draw a large consensus among the international community. Also, indictments at the Hague would be appropriate.
Punitive bombing is not a plan or a policy, it's terrorism.
Billy Love
(117 posts)Step 2. Commit yourself to the nearest mental institution
Step 3. Stay there for 35+ years until you pass away.
there. that's the exit strategy.
gopiscrap
(23,747 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)It's cheaper, more legal, more honest, better for the environment, and less fattening.
gopiscrap
(23,747 posts)she's projecting her mistakes on Obama
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)They demanded that Obama get congressional approval so he decides to extend an olive branch and do just that and now they proceed to try and beat him to death with said branch.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)It seems like a bad repuke strategy to actually have congress vote on this.
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)Also
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/boYrQYVCQBz14HrSZbrYfL/US-lawmakers-ask-Obama-to-consult-Congress-before-striking-S.html
Before any action is taken regarding Syria, it is imperative that President Obama make the case to the American people and consult with Congress, top Republican Senator John Cornyn, said amidst reports that the US is considering a military action in Syria."
Edit: And yes they played their hand to early and ended up painting themselves into a corner because if they deny his request to take action they will appear as assholes and he can say they are obstructing him thus its not his fault for not doing anything but theirs and if they authorize it goes wrong then the blowback will largely land on them just before an election to and they cant take credit if it goes well, either way its a win win.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I need to pay closer attention to what's going on. Thanks for this
City Lights
(25,171 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)So typical.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)PuffedMica
(1,061 posts)I thought that old hag was dead.
PuffedMica
(1,061 posts)Check this out:
Obama said he is considering a "limited narrow act,"
"We're not considering any open ended commitment. We're not considering any boots on the ground "
So just what is Mary Matalin (R - Stupid) question about 'exit strategy' again?
Steviehh
(115 posts)D. Rumsfeld demanded a detailed strategy and exit plan also. They believe Americans just forget the past.
no_hypocrisy
(46,078 posts)Don't get started in Syria to begin with.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Oh...
RobinA
(9,888 posts)how only Democratic Presidents need exit strategies.
When Clinton went into Kosovo, Repubs screamed "no exit strategy." When Bush went into Iraq and Afghanistan...silence. Now it seems with Obama they've rediscovered the exit strategy.
I'm opposed to going to Syria with or without an exit strategy, but I do find this interesting.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)Where were the exit strategies when you were with Bush?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)Funny--she didn't need one when we invaded Iraq.