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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:00 PM Sep 2013

Reuters has announced a 6.9 earthquake in Tokyo

Source: reuters

Headline says it all.

Reports following say no threat of tsunami and no further damage to the nuclear reactor.

Read more: https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld



(I am skeptical they could know so much 30 minutes after the quake but I'm hoping no further damage too!)
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Reuters has announced a 6.9 earthquake in Tokyo (Original Post) DonRedwood Sep 2013 OP
Holy shit. Those poor people. nt valerief Sep 2013 #1
Those poor people otherone Sep 2013 #2
Watch for the Aftershock! Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #3
So let's build an ice wall around the reactor to keep the groundwater from the jtuck004 Sep 2013 #4
Your sarcasm is duly noted relative to the post that I made earlier today about the ice wall. TexasTowelie Sep 2013 #14
The ice wall is just one issue - all the fuel that is stil in the reactor must be cooled, and with jtuck004 Sep 2013 #19
To say that the situation is a screwed-up mess TexasTowelie Sep 2013 #20
Yup. And one that is going to involve more and more innocent people. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2013 #21
dup (not Tokyo) godai Sep 2013 #5
That is GD, this is in LBN. uppityperson Sep 2013 #6
To be clear, it's NOT in Tokyo. n/t godai Sep 2013 #7
Thank you, I sent a note to the Poster to please edit and link uppityperson Sep 2013 #13
Technically, it is "Tokyo" Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #17
Twenty minutes later, a 6.0 quake pscot Sep 2013 #8
2nd in last 6 hours there. n/t godai Sep 2013 #11
I used to live in CA. longship Sep 2013 #9
why are they 'geeks'? olddad56 Sep 2013 #15
Smart people with computers, just like at CalTech. longship Sep 2013 #16
6.5 - no major damage reported tinrobot Sep 2013 #10
I felt that earthquake Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #18
Would you please update subject line with title of a linked article per LBN rules? Thanks uppityperson Sep 2013 #12
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
4. So let's build an ice wall around the reactor to keep the groundwater from the
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:08 PM
Sep 2013

mountain from seeping through the basement and carrying contaminated water to the supply of 40,000,000 people...

Oh wait, we have earthquakes. Better make that an earthquake-proof ice wall...

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
19. The ice wall is just one issue - all the fuel that is stil in the reactor must be cooled, and with
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 04:04 AM
Sep 2013

the apparent damage, that water must be stored, and that plan isn't working out so well.

Plus, the fuel rods themselves have to be moved, and there is a write up out there detailing the high probability that simply trying to move them will cause a reaction that they may not be able to stop, which would result in a fairly large release.

All sorts of probabilities for greater harm out there from just trying to fix the problem, and just as high for waiting until we have a better plan.

There are just no good roads forward at this point...

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
17. Technically, it is "Tokyo"
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 11:40 PM
Sep 2013

But it's not the great urban agglomeration that everyone thinks of as Tokyo-- the epicenter was near a tiny island called Torishima that is part of "Tokyo-to", what Americans would think of as "Tokyo State"

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. I used to live in CA.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:26 PM
Sep 2013

When there was a trembler -- happened all the time -- the Southern California Earthquake Center (at CalTech) would have the first magnitude estimate up within about a minute. I knew that because I could pop up their site within seconds of the quake, and often did.

See for yourself:
SCEC

I can't think that the geeks in Japan would have it any less automated.

So yes. The magnitude is a fairly precise calculation dependent on measurable parameters. Subject to error bars, they'd have a preliminary magnitude estimation within a few seconds with more accurate estimations after more in depth analysis.

But that's what you do when people's lives may hang in the balance.

longship

(40,416 posts)
16. Smart people with computers, just like at CalTech.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:56 PM
Sep 2013

In an active earthquake zone, that's one thing that geeks do.

In Japan, they've extended earthquake warnings onto all their mass transit and out in public. They take this stuff very seriously. Not even CA does that.

Geek is an endearment. There was a time that I called myself one. Now I'm an ex-geek.


tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
10. 6.5 - no major damage reported
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:27 PM
Sep 2013

via Reuters (8 mins ago):

There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage and no tsunami warning was issued. The U.S. Geological Survey measured the quake with a magnitude of 6.5.

The quake was measured 400 km (250 miles) below the earth's surface about 580 km (360 miles) south of Tokyo, NHK said. Witnesses said it was felt along much of Japan's east coast.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/us-japan-quake-idUSBRE98301B20130904?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

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