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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:00 PM Sep 2013

US Officials: Obama Administration Considers Military Training Of Syrian Rebels

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is considering a plan to use U.S. military trainers to help increase the capabilities of the Syrian rebels, in a move that would greatly expand the current CIA training being done quietly in Jordan, U.S. officials told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Any training would take place outside Syria, and one possible location would be Jordan.

The officials said no decision had been made, but that discussions were going on at high levels of the government. It comes as the Obama administration prods Congress to authorize limited military strikes against the Syrian government in retaliation for a deadly Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack.

The proposal to use the U.S. military to train the rebels — something the administration has resisted through more than two years of civil war — would answer the demands of some lawmakers, including Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., to do more to train and equip the Syrian opposition.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/222583301.html

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US Officials: Obama Administration Considers Military Training Of Syrian Rebels (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2013 OP
Two years he is saying that and they have not receive a single bullet.nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #1
If that were true, I'd thank God. David__77 Sep 2013 #3
What a pity! arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #4
Bullshit. HRC's "Friends of Syria" have funded and equipped the entire bloody thing. delrem Sep 2013 #5
"Standing up an opposition", (to quote Hillary) arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #7
On top of that, think of the work required to "overlook" it, even while ramping it up another notch. delrem Sep 2013 #10
She's a real champion of women's rights dflprincess Sep 2013 #19
This is what absolutely, positively blows my mind.... arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #23
There is definitely a regime change operation in play. David__77 Sep 2013 #2
Because he's in the employ of the MIC and answers the demands of PNAC. delrem Sep 2013 #6
Worse than cruise missile strikes... iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #8
al Qaeda could use those skills outside Syria??? Who'd'a thunkit... delrem Sep 2013 #12
News flash... arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #24
So I guess that means . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #9
Uh...isn't that treason then?? dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #13
The only America made thing we can be proud of polynomial Sep 2013 #21
Good point daleo Sep 2013 #22
Are they just flinging poo out there to see what is less smelly? eom MyNameGoesHere Sep 2013 #11
What happens when one of those insurgents blows up a marathon in the USA? David__77 Sep 2013 #14
Ugh...I had a horrible feeling McCain, Graham, et al. would goad the president into this fujiyama Sep 2013 #15
Why would Hillary want this War ? warrant46 Sep 2013 #16
It's not clear, but it looks like she proposed arming the rebels fujiyama Sep 2013 #17
Saw that Interesting though to see how many warrant46 Sep 2013 #20
Training Rebels RobinA Sep 2013 #18
Please, DUers. Contact your reps! arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #25
Charlie Wilson's War. (Always get that wrong) longship Sep 2013 #26
Did they each them to eat their foes? /nt Ash_F Sep 2013 #27
 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
4. What a pity!
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:13 PM
Sep 2013

Don't be upset with him. He's signed off on tons of bullets from Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Did you ever see one of your jihadis that wasn't sporting some serious weaponry?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
5. Bullshit. HRC's "Friends of Syria" have funded and equipped the entire bloody thing.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:21 PM
Sep 2013

As well as supplying the mercenary jihadists, the mercenary academi, "rebel freedom fighters".
The phony "forgetfulness" of the warmongers is just part of their wall of lies - a wall of lies that is as thick as they come.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
10. On top of that, think of the work required to "overlook" it, even while ramping it up another notch.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:53 PM
Sep 2013

The LIES LIES and MORE LIES of warmongers grates to the bone.
In war, truth is the first casualty.
-Aeschylus

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
19. She's a real champion of women's rights
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:42 PM
Sep 2013

I wonder if, God forbid, she's ever president and if, God forbid again, the "rebels" are successful if she'll at least grant asylum to Syrian women who manage to escape the fundamentalist regime she helped install?

 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
23. This is what absolutely, positively blows my mind....
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:29 AM
Sep 2013

Clinton, Rice, Power, Feinstein, Boxer...whom am I forgetting....how can these female Democrats be so blind to what amounts to a foreign policy of destabilizing and overthrowing secular regimes that actually offer some protection to women's rights?

David__77

(23,369 posts)
2. There is definitely a regime change operation in play.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:04 PM
Sep 2013

It is disgusting to fathom that Obama is taking a page from the Bush playbook.

Why doesn't Obama answer the demands of the American people instead of John McCain's demands, and stand down!

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
8. Worse than cruise missile strikes...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:34 PM
Sep 2013

which I am for..

but I cant get behind training soldiers.

in my opinion, thatll have longer lasting effects than any other action we could possibly do.. as they could use those skills outside of Syria.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
12. al Qaeda could use those skills outside Syria??? Who'd'a thunkit...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:58 PM
Sep 2013

But a good old fashion bombing, with no US casualties - well, that's a GOOD thing.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
9. So I guess that means . . .
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:42 PM
Sep 2013

. . . the U.S. would be running Al Qaeda training camps. Hey, what could possibly go wrong?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. Uh...isn't that treason then??
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

giving aid and comfort to teh enemy during a time of war?

Since we are on a permanent war footing
and trying to get rid of Assad
then helping the Al-Quaida people who are with the other rebels against Assad...
sounds like treason.

Not that there is going to be any hurry to start applying LAWS or anything in this country...

polynomial

(750 posts)
21. The only America made thing we can be proud of
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:02 PM
Sep 2013

America we made Osama Bin Laden thirty years ago.

The American CIA trained supplied advised supported
Al Qaeda to fight the Russians thirty years ago. Now
do you understand why this stuff appears to be so
ass backwards.

If the mainstream media really did America something
patriotic like spend the next two years discussing
how the CIA secretly built the Jihad we are fighting perhaps
Americans would be different.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
22. Good point
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:06 PM
Sep 2013

I hadn't thought of it that way.

Ten years from now we can go to war with these guys, thus ensuring The Forever War isn't just the title of a book.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
14. What happens when one of those insurgents blows up a marathon in the USA?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:17 PM
Sep 2013

Will any American be prosecuted?

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
15. Ugh...I had a horrible feeling McCain, Graham, et al. would goad the president into this
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:36 PM
Sep 2013

Those two have been the biggest proponents of training the rebels. I heard that Hillary, Paneta and a few others were supporting this and more as well.

And now after all the restraint, I feel like he has given in.

Sometimes with such horrors taking place, the toughest action is not acting - because I really don't see how any of these actions (military support/training for the rebels, bombings) actually helps the situation any. And there's no real end in sight after that. And we've been continuously at war for almost 12 FUCKING YEARS. When does it end?

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
16. Why would Hillary want this War ?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 08:12 PM
Sep 2013

I don't see how her Presidential aspirations would be helped by supporting this WAR unless she was somehow tied to the bottomless pit of money from the MIC

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
20. Saw that Interesting though to see how many
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:54 PM
Sep 2013

different factions there are in the fight.

And how pray tell do you support one over another and get the support to them through all the hoops that must exist

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
18. Training Rebels
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 09:32 PM
Sep 2013

in a civil war. Uhmmm.... Seems I have some vague memory of this not working out so well in the past. I could be wrong, after all, who am I? These guys are the experts. I can't imagine they'd make the same mistake all over again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

God help us, this is so wrong.

 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
25. Please, DUers. Contact your reps!
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:40 AM
Sep 2013

Let them know that we won't forget who votes "YES" for Obama's War!

Come to D.C. to protest!

I assume that almost all of us voted for the man, so we are responsible to some degree for whatever disastrous decisions he makes.



longship

(40,416 posts)
26. Charlie Wilson's War. (Always get that wrong)
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 02:35 AM
Sep 2013

Fighting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. There's a damned good movie about it, starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, no less.

Recommended.

No spoilers, but it's all about blowback and dropping the ball when one has an opportunity to make a difference.



Yup! I know it's Hollywood. It's still at least history of sorts. And Charlie Wilson was quite a character in the House.

On edit: Mike Nichols directed it. It's a minor gem.

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