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alp227

(32,006 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:29 AM Sep 2013

KKK group plans rally at Civil War battlefield

Source: Baltimore Sun

A Baltimore-area branch of the Ku Klux Klan plans to hold a rally at the Antietam Battlefield Saturday to protest the country's immigration policies and call for the impeachment of President Obama.

Richard Preston — whose title is Imperial Wizard of the Confederate White Knights — is organizing the event.

"I've talked to a lot of people in the state of Maryland .... and those people are sick and tired of the way this government is going," he said. Preston pointed to immigration policies he says are draining the country's economy, and a foreign policy that has left the U.S. military too thinly stretched.

The Battle of Antietam was fought near Sharpsburg in Washington County on Sept. 17, 1862. It was the bloodiest single-day engagement of the Civil War with 23,000 casualties. The battlefield is maintained by the National Parks Service which has made arrangements to accommodate the protesters and people who are expected to show up in opposition to them, according to ranger Tom Jones.


Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-klan-at-antietam-20130906,0,4956625.story



What, the Westboro Baptist Church wasn't available?
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KKK group plans rally at Civil War battlefield (Original Post) alp227 Sep 2013 OP
"a foreign policy that has left the U.S. military too thinly stretched." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #1
Imperial Wizard of the Confederate White Knights Iliyah Sep 2013 #2
no masks allowed anymore, lets see their faces and learn their names. Sunlei Sep 2013 #11
They're just so shy. People need to make the first step and break the ice! Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #20
cool picture! Sunlei Sep 2013 #22
Just wait until they have to start picking their own Historic NY Sep 2013 #3
Battle Cry of Freedom struggle4progress Sep 2013 #4
Always inspiring tabasco Sep 2013 #8
Never heard this song before. Thanks for posting. freshwest Sep 2013 #34
"You lost. Get over it." - America Berlum Sep 2013 #5
+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #6
+2 nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #17
My interest in something like this heaven05 Sep 2013 #7
So... the KKK is to converge on site where Stonewall Jackson was shot by his own troops. Gore1FL Sep 2013 #9
Jackson was shot at Chancellorsville not Sharpsburg Leontius Sep 2013 #12
I stand corrected. Gore1FL Sep 2013 #15
Except that Chancellorsville is in Virginia... Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #32
Obviously, it was during the war. Gore1FL Sep 2013 #37
I'm just teasin' ya... Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #38
Thanks Gore1FL Sep 2013 #41
KKK had nothing to do with the civil war. They rose up after along w/NRA to re-enslave Sunlei Sep 2013 #10
Well, it did come into being because the South lost the war... Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #33
Nathan Bedford Forrest Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #35
Thanks that does look like a good book! Sunlei Sep 2013 #36
And Here's a Version of Dixie for them. Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #13
Baltimore was a Union bastion Baltimore Sep 2013 #19
Spiro Agnew was once the Baltimore County executive. KamaAina Sep 2013 #40
Good Grief..... JimboBillyBubbaBob Sep 2013 #14
Why are they not classified as terrorists and hauled away? chelsea0011 Sep 2013 #16
They passed the colour test. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #18
Sadly, you may be right. If the Black Panthers had anywhere near the history of the KKK, chelsea0011 Sep 2013 #23
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Sep 2013 #26
They need another group of people there to remind them they lost the war. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #21
PHOTOS - looks like about 5 Klansmen and 6 onlookers showed up wordpix Sep 2013 #24
"... eight Ku Klux Klan members .. called for a new uprising to oust President Barack Obama ... struggle4progress Sep 2013 #25
I hate to say this but the pointed hats must have some function. This group seems to be Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #27
Just reading this now; I was out of town. Too bad. DebJ Sep 2013 #28
I live two blocks away teenagebambam Sep 2013 #29
that's one way to get shot by ghosts... MisterP Sep 2013 #30
Ummm, So they'll be supporting their own self-deporting dballance Sep 2013 #31
The only history they know is great-great-great grandpappy had a bullwhip wordpix Sep 2013 #42
They are going to have their asses handed to them if they show up. rug Sep 2013 #39

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Imperial Wizard of the Confederate White Knights
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:53 AM
Sep 2013

Oh my. Further, Blacks should know their place like that one in our WH. Damn those foreigners who are sucking the life out of our country, and our resources for killing "others" in other countries must be sustained.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. no masks allowed anymore, lets see their faces and learn their names.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 11:04 AM
Sep 2013

no hiding no more behind sheets.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
20. They're just so shy. People need to make the first step and break the ice!
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:44 PM
Sep 2013

They should shake hands, and introduce themselves, show the Klansmen they shouldn't be so skitterish.

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struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
4. Battle Cry of Freedom
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:28 AM
Sep 2013
... the Union forever!
hurrah boys! hurrah!
down with the traitors
up with the stars
while we rally round the flag boys
rally once again
shouting the battle cry of Freedom!

we are springing to the call
of our brothers gone before
shouting the battle cry of Freedom!
and we'll fill the vacant ranks
with a million freemen more

shouting the battle cry of Freedom! ...




 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. My interest in something like this
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 09:32 AM
Sep 2013

will be how many show up and how faux news depicts it. I wonder if rushpig, beckerhead, hanitick, coulture, zimmerman, all in sheets mind you, show up. Just a joke, I think. They have a nerve massing anywhere. Oh for the purist, I know they have the right. Wonder how many of these 'good' amurkins will be carrying concealed weapons under those sheets?

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
9. So... the KKK is to converge on site where Stonewall Jackson was shot by his own troops.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 10:28 AM
Sep 2013

Any chance of a re-enactment with live ammo?

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
15. I stand corrected.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:42 PM
Sep 2013

Brain fart on my part. I was thinking about the Chancellorsville Confederate Flanking maneuver that knocked Hooker on his ass as soon as I saw "Maryland." Antietem was McClellen. Thanks for the correction. I feel like an idiot!

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
37. Obviously, it was during the war.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:19 AM
Sep 2013

I knew it setup the Confederate defeat at Gettysburg. For some reason I had it in MD.

I though maybe I was confusing it with Brandy Station, but that was in VA too. Obviously, I need to reread some books.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
38. I'm just teasin' ya...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:30 PM
Sep 2013

I noted to sunlei that I had recently finished Slotkin's The Road to Antietam. Just so happens that I followed it with Steven Sears' excellent work on Chancellorsville titled, most appropriately, Chancellorsville. It's an excellent read:

http://www.amazon.com/Chancellorsville-Stephen-W-Sears/dp/039587744X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1378765696&sr=1-1&keywords=chancellorsville

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
33. Well, it did come into being because the South lost the war...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:19 PM
Sep 2013

...and, IIRC, it was a Confederate ex-cavalry commander who started it (Forrest? Can't remember...)

It actually does have a certain relevance to Antietam, although I'm not sure any of the sheet-wearing knuckle-draggers are smart enough to realize it: The Federal "victory" at Antietam gave Lincoln the boost in public opinion he needed to issue the Emancipation Proclamation (which freed those people who were currently enslaved in the South) and to continue the war as a war to destroy the institution of slavery, and the southern way of life that slavery supported, rather than as a simple effort to re-unite the country by the reversal of secession.

I just recently finished a book you might find interesting, if you've not already read it:

The Long Road to Antietam: How the Civil War Became a Revolution by Richard Slotkin (2012)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0871406659/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0871404117&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0HWW30TY9Z7PD4WTAZGP

Not trying to be preachy; I just finished the book and thoroughly enjoyed it, so Antietam has been on my mind.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
35. Nathan Bedford Forrest
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:39 AM
Sep 2013

Ex-Confederate general, reputed founder of the KKK. There is actually a town in Arkansas named after him (Forrest City), and during the '80s at least, the town was living up (or down) to the image of its namesake.

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
13. And Here's a Version of Dixie for them.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 01:06 PM
Sep 2013

Away down South in the land of traitors,
Rattlesnakes and alligators,
Right away, come away, right away, come away.
Where cotton's king and men are chattels,
Union boys will win the battles,
Right away, come away, right away, come away.

CHORUS: Then we'll all go down to Dixie,
Away, away,
Each Dixie boy must understand
That he must mind his Uncle Sam,
Away, away,
And we'll all go down to Dixie.
Away, away,
And we'll all go down to Dixie.

I wish I was in Baltimore,
I'd make Secession traitors roar,
Right away, come away, right away, come away.
We'll put the traitors all to rout.
I'll bet my boots we'll whip them out,
Right away, come away, right away, come away.

CHORUS: Then they'll wish they were in Dixie,
Away, away,
Each Dixie boy must understand
That he must mind his Uncle Sam,
Away, away,
And we'll all go down to Dixie.
Away, away,
And we'll all go down to Dixie.

Oh, may our Stars and Stripes still wave
Forever o'er the free and brave,
Right away, come away, right away, come away.
And let our motto ever be --
"For Union and for Liberty!"
Right away, come away, right away, come away.

CHORUS: Then they'll wish they were in Dixie,
Away, away,
Each Dixie boy must understand
That he must mind his Uncle Sam,
Away, away,
And we'll all go down to Dixie.
Away, away,
And we'll all go down to Dixie.


For Lincoln and Liberty.

Wolf

Baltimore

(176 posts)
19. Baltimore was a Union bastion
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:12 PM
Sep 2013

The line starting "I wish I was in Baltimore" is based on a misunderstanding fueled by the incident that caused Baltimore to be called "The Mob City," when some Union general did not ask any Baltimorean where Union troops should be billeted. He put them in Hampden, the only pro-secesh neighborhood in Baltimore, where the troops were assailed with rocks and bottles by the locals. I come from Baltimore, as my DU name indicates, and I know well that Baltimore provided huge amounts of ammunition, armaments of all sorts, cavalry horses to the Union Army. One of our most conspicuous city sights is the Shot Tower, where cannon-balls were dropped. When Lee and Jackson marched through Maryland, they made sure to avoid Baltimore by forty miles. Atlanta was brought down by Baltimore -made cannon. I'm always sorry to see this slander on Baltimore. Oh, and by the way, "Baltimore area" means Baltimore County, which has nothing to do with Baltimore, an independent city. Baltimore County, the land of white flight, voted for George Wallace in 1964. It went Democratic for the first time since the 60's in 2012, by 1%.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
40. Spiro Agnew was once the Baltimore County executive.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:38 PM
Sep 2013

'Nuf ced.

As a matter of fact, his daughter was a classmate of Mom's at Towson High School. As was Divine.

JimboBillyBubbaBob

(1,389 posts)
14. Good Grief.....
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:40 PM
Sep 2013

Just keep repeating.....freedom of expression, freedom of expression, freedom of expression..........

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
23. Sadly, you may be right. If the Black Panthers had anywhere near the history of the KKK,
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:30 PM
Sep 2013

you would never see them allowed assembly at this point in time. The KKK has a history of terrorism but are allowed the rights of all.

struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
25. "... eight Ku Klux Klan members .. called for a new uprising to oust President Barack Obama ...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:49 PM
Sep 2013

.... the hooded speaker ... explained that he did not believe the president is a United States citizen .... the lone person occupying the designated area for counter-demonstrators ... held a sign reading "KKK go away" .... <the leader ... who uses the title Imperial Wizard> ... added that "things for the United States started to go wrong with Lincoln. … He was the first liberal president" ...

Small KKK group holds rally at Civil War battlefield
Group met by heavy police presence despite small size
By Ian Duncan, The Baltimore Sun
6:29 p.m. EDT, September 7, 2013

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. I hate to say this but the pointed hats must have some function. This group seems to be
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:02 PM
Sep 2013

From simple reality. They must want themselves to look stupid.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
28. Just reading this now; I was out of town. Too bad.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:13 PM
Sep 2013

It would have been fun to get a bunch of people together...get 8-10 cars...and follow them home...
'unmask' them.

teenagebambam

(1,592 posts)
29. I live two blocks away
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:26 PM
Sep 2013

and reading this post (on Sunday night) was the first I'd heard of it. So it didn't make too big a splash locally, I guess.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
31. Ummm, So they'll be supporting their own self-deporting
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:38 PM
Sep 2013

Since they're all descendants (most likely) of illegal immigrants and anchor babies who came to this continent and stole the land from the indigenous people I'm sure they'll be wanting to give it back. They'll have to be for self-deporting themselves and their families back to wherever they immigrated from illegally.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
42. The only history they know is great-great-great grandpappy had a bullwhip
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:12 PM
Sep 2013

in his hand and was master of the plantation.

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