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Little Star

(17,055 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:34 PM Sep 2013

Vince Cable gave 'contradictory evidence' about export of chemicals to Syria, MPs say

Source: The Independent


Business Secretary Vince Cable has been accused of providing contradictory evidence to MPs on whether Britain allowed the export of chemicals to Syria which could be used in the production of nerve gas.


The deputy Liberal Democrat leader is being asked to explain why he wrote to Parliament earlier this year indicating that at least part of a shipment of potassium fluoride and sodium fluoride approved for export by a British company had been sent to the war-torn country last year.

When the existence of the two export licences granted for six months last January, while the conflict in Syria was already raging, was revealed earlier this month, Mr Cable’s department and Downing Street insisted that none of the consignment, worth some £20,000, had been shipped to the war-torn Middle Eastern country.

But MPs on the Commons’ select committee on arms export controls pointed to previous testimony from Mr Cable which stated “there were some goods remaining to be exported” under the licences and explaining there was no data to show just how much “had already been shipped”.


Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/vince-cable-gave-contradictory-evidence-about-export-of-chemicals-to-syria-mps-say-8805657.html



The key words here are:
But MPs on the Commons’ select committee on arms export controls pointed to previous testimony from Mr Cable which stated “there were some goods remaining to be exported” under the licences and explaining there was no data to show just how much “had already been shipped”.

And as I pointed out yesterday, there is something hinky going on & I stand by that assessment. Today I will add, that I think Mr. Cable is a liar.
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Vince Cable gave 'contradictory evidence' about export of chemicals to Syria, MPs say (Original Post) Little Star Sep 2013 OP
So, okay to sell it for money, but NOT okay to use it? mbperrin Sep 2013 #1
The unraveling of lies...... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #2
Both of those chemicals have got routine everyday uses dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #3
As I said before, all of that is true. However, as The Telegram pointed out here.... Little Star Sep 2013 #4
So it's likely that GB did ship chemical weapons to Syria? davidpdx Sep 2013 #5
It's very likely .. Lenomsky Sep 2013 #6
Excuse my language davidpdx Sep 2013 #7
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
2. The unraveling of lies......
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:50 PM
Sep 2013

...takes the weirdest twists and turns. It's almost never a pretty thing to watch, but almost always interesting, in a passing-by-a-head-on-collision sort of way.

But when you stand back and look at it, it all makes sense. I mean if you're going to stage a Syrian government gas attack, you have to have real gas and kill real people. Otherwise no one will believe your evidence. It's all about the pretext people. Nothing else.

- Once they have the pretext that's all they need, they'll take it from there......

K&R

''A lie does not consist in the indirect position of words, but in the desire and intention, by false speaking, to deceive and injure your neighbour.'' ~Jonathan Swift

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. Both of those chemicals have got routine everyday uses
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:53 PM
Sep 2013

which I suggest you search to confirm. That is in the same way that the chemicals which the insurgents got hold of, sodium hyperchlorite and hydrochloric acid, have too aside from making chlorine gas.

You only need hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen aka hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide to make rocket fuel - don't follow that many do that though.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
4. As I said before, all of that is true. However, as The Telegram pointed out here....
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:01 PM
Sep 2013

6 days before the Daily Mail, "The dual-use substances can be used as chemical weapon precursors, and are listed on the international schedule."
They knew very well of those duel-usages and there was a long on going civil war raging in Syria. Why do you think Thomas Docherty MP, a member of the Commons Arms Export Controls Committee, said: ‘These are very disturbing revelations uncovered by The Mail on Sunday regarding the provision of sodium fluoride to Syria. At no time should we have allowed President Assad’s regime to get its hands on this substance?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10279790/Government-allowed-export-of-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-Syria.html

Times have changed and not everything is just a normal everyday item anymore.

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
6. It's very likely ..
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:37 AM
Sep 2013

UK shipped precursors which may be used to create chemical weapons.

I was chatting about this last night and we agreed at least one western nation would most likely be found to have shipped the necessary be it UK, France, Germany etc

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