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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:52 PM Sep 2013

Alcoa, Hewlett-Packard and Bank of America to Be Dropped from Dow Industrials

Source: Wall Street Journal

Alcoa Inc., AA -0.37% Hewlett-Packard Co. HPQ -0.58% and Bank of America Corp. BAC +1.10% will be dropped from the Dow Jones Industrial Average next week, in the biggest shake-up of the 30-stock index in almost a decade.

Alcoa, a Dow component for 54 years, will be replaced by athletic gear maker Nike Inc. NKE +1.54% Payments company Visa Inc. V +2.99% will replace H-P, which joined the index in 1997, and securities firm Goldman Sachs Group Inc. GS +3.31% will supplant Bank of America, which spent five years in the blue-chip benchmark.

For the new entrants, "it would be very hard to argue that these are three companies not worthy of inclusion," said Dan Greenhaus, chief global strategist at New York brokerage BTIG LLC. "It's a positive development in the sense that you're trying to make the index better with each passing day."

"When you go out to the bar at night, or you go home and you say 'What did the stock market do today?' the majority of people will go, 'Oh, the Dow was up 50 points, or the Dow jumped 300 points,'" Mr. Greenhaus said. "It's the number that most people, when they think of the stock market, refer to."

Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323595004579066683443715254.html

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Alcoa, Hewlett-Packard and Bank of America to Be Dropped from Dow Industrials (Original Post) IDemo Sep 2013 OP
Wow! Finally. HP, for one, hasn't been relevant for ten years. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #1
They've moved from a pc company to running state programs ... Myrina Sep 2013 #3
it depends melm00se Sep 2013 #5
Perhaps not as far as the PC market goes notadmblnd Sep 2013 #6
Is there such a thing as a tech company that's not Apple and that you don't hate? 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #7
Microsoft. onehandle Sep 2013 #9
I'm not sure I understand how that works.. Bay Boy Sep 2013 #2
Capitalism heaven05 Sep 2013 #4
This is how you keep a small-basis (30 cos).. sendero Sep 2013 #8

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
3. They've moved from a pc company to running state programs ...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:56 PM
Sep 2013

.... crunching data ... like Medicare, FSSA, etc. All those companies are diversifying into 'government services' now so they can still be on the tit.

melm00se

(4,984 posts)
5. it depends
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:39 PM
Sep 2013

they are #1 in market share in x86 servers. These servers (to a certain extent) are key to many companies' cloud and hosted managed services strategies.

you also can't discount their almost 40% worldwide market share as it relates to printers.

On the downsides:
- HP really missed the boat when it came to tablets and other small mobile devices.
- Printing is becoming less important in the business world.
- HP's server market share has been eroding quite a bit over the last few years (Dell and Cisco are gaining but at the expense of the traditional players: IBM and HP).

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
6. Perhaps not as far as the PC market goes
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:50 PM
Sep 2013

But they are a huge computer services provider with hundreds of big name clients. Some time ago, they bought Ross Perot's EDS which I worked for for 28 years. The Data Center I worked at alone was comprised of 5 buildings on campus two of which house nothing but mainframes and servers. There were over 2400 on the floor of the one story building I worked in and I did not work in Plano which is where they are head quartered.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
7. Is there such a thing as a tech company that's not Apple and that you don't hate?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:32 PM
Sep 2013

(Don't bother replying. That was rhetorical.)

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
9. Microsoft.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:17 PM
Sep 2013

I admire them for much of their accomplishments in the past and have friends who work for them. Thank God Ballmer finally... FINALLY got fired. (I know my friends do). I think Bill Gates should return as an interim CEO.

Facebook, although I only use it a little bit because I have to, has its merits. Twitter is genius. Intel is generous to its employees. Qualcomm has had its moments. LinkedIn surprises me daily, although I am worried about some of their development slowing. I have a decades long love/hate relationship with Adobe, Citrix has great products and people,

HP hasn't been relevant since the 90s. Samsung just makes cheap Chinese knockoffs and gets sued for it (and not just by Apple, the EU is about to levy them with an 18 billion dollar fine). Google is just another spam ad company and little more, especially since they started crushing their employees souls (this is why Marissa left), Cisco is starting to bore me...

There's a lot of good tech out there. HP is the Jay Leno of tech.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
2. I'm not sure I understand how that works..
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:56 PM
Sep 2013

...are they doing this so that they will have companies listed that are more likely to go up and thusly encourage people into falsely believing everything is OK?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. Capitalism
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:58 PM
Sep 2013

is a ravenous beast that devours everyone except the rich. I'm losing my home through corporate and banking malfeasance and and my lawyers unconcern during my divorce and no one on here can tell me anything different about our vaunted 'free enterprise system'.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
8. This is how you keep a small-basis (30 cos)..
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:56 PM
Sep 2013

.. index always rising, kick the failing companies off.

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