Unfazed by Colorado recalls, California lawmakers press on with gun-control bills

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Source: San Jose Mercury News

A day after furious Coloradans recalled two state senators who voted for new gun laws, California lawmakers pressed ahead with their own agenda Wednesday aimed at giving the Golden State the strictest gun control in the country.

Colorado's recall elections and California's rush to pass gun bills in the final week of its legislative session quickly reignited the national debate over balancing public safety with constitutional rights.

The Colorado votes sent a Rocky Mountain chill down the spines of lawmakers in other battleground states, but those in bright blue California seemed unfazed.

"I don't see anybody switching teams here," said Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, chairman of the Assembly Public Safety Committee.

Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24072843/unfazed-by-colorado-recalls-california-lawmakers-press-gun

[gopiscrap]

1. Good for California!

[question everything]

2. And this time, GET OUT THE VOTE!

People in Colorado did not show up, at least, not the ones who do support gun control.

[TheDeputy]

3. Bold prediction:

No effect on crime.

[Bandit]

6. Bold Prediction, gun nuts have zero plan to lower shooting fatalities or injuries. ZERO

[TheDeputy]

7. I carry a gun every day

Does that make me a nut? What if I carry two? Wait. I work as a cop. Does that make it ok?

[Bandit]

10. How sad for you.

Do you behave like the cops we read about constantly here?

[TheDeputy]

11. I don't know.

Do you behave like the criminals we read about constantly here?

[warrant46]

18. Outstanding Reply

And yes some of them have the self control of shop lifters at Walmart

[NickB79]

8. Shooting fatalities have been falling for decades already

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal , "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.

That's a massive decline, no matter how you look at it.

[TheDeputy]

9. No surprise

Better trauma care. More people owning guns.

[BrotherIvan]

14. Of course

More guns = less people getting shot

[booley]

27. except there doesnt' seem to be more people owning guns

More guns have been bought. but that doesn't necessarily mean more peopel are now gun owners.

and in fact there's evidence that high gun ownership can increase crime

http://articles.courant.com/2013-09-12/news/hc-bu-gun-homicide-study-0913-20130912_1_gun-ownership-gun-ownership-rates-study

there are lots of variable that account for crime.

Guns are just one (and they chiefly seem to serve to make it more lethal then spur the crime itself)

[HockeyMom]

4. Colorado is not California,

or anywhere in the NE. The gunners are in the MINORITY in these places. Just think now many in these states are NOT "exercising their 2nd Amendment" rights by their own free will? Oh, NO!!!!

[Throd]

13. What part of California do you live in?

[HockeyMom]

25. Born, raised, lived in NY 58 years

Six wonderful years in the Gunshine State; land of SYG. California (thankfully) other than weather, has more in common with NY than the Paradise (for gun nuts) State.

[Throd]

29. That is what I thought.

[spin]

17. Why would a person who enjoyed target shooting, hunting or collecting firearms live ...

in a state like California if they had a choice?

Why would a person who intensely dislikes firearms or "shall issue" concealed carry live in a state like Florida if they had a choice?

I'm beginning to believe that over the years a fair number of gun owners have left gun unfriendly states and moved to gun friendly states. This factor may make passing strong gun control laws in a gun friendly state very difficult but fairly easy in a gun unfriendly state.

[Mz Pip]

22. None of the things you list would be prohibited

The new CA gun laws that are proposed bans targets shooting, collecting or hunting.

[spin]

24. The problem is that California imposes many restrictions on honest gun owners ...

that most other states do not. Target shooting, collecting and hunting may not be banned but California law makes the enjoyment of such activities much more complicated and expensive.

[booley]

28. my dad seems to get along fine

he's a gun hobbyist, lives in orange county and seems to be able to do his hobby just fine.

Plus I never bought into the idea that inconveniencing hobbyists is a good argument against gun control.

[hlthe2b]

5. Good. Don't be bullied by hate-filled gun addicts and their big $$ promoters. Enough is enough.

Life matters.... Show them so.

[Skittles]

12. good way to stand up to bullies and cowards

yes INDEED

[warrant46]

19. Wow now we can walk down the street in Watts

[Skittles]

23. LOL

well we can see who you are skeered of

[BrotherIvan]

15. California is leading the way

And I'm proud of us. Perhaps we can make some amends for sending you Reagan and DiFi.

We're sorry!

[Left Coast2020]

16. Is it possible the NRA could lose in the Golden State?

Hmmmm?

[Blue_Tires]

21. Well, it will definitely be harder for the NRA to game an election there...

[Sunlei]

20. now Colorado has to deal with a years worth of rain in 48 hours, with 2 less gov.positions.

[gopiscrap]

26. Good for California I hope they prevail

over any bullshit the gun nut fuckers might try!!!