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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 08:22 PM Sep 2013

Midwest College Students Strongly Oppose Guns On Campus: Survey

Source: Huffington Post

A new Ball State University survey finds that a a significant majority of college students at 15 Midwestern colleges oppose allowing guns on campus.

Seventy-eight percent of students surveyed said they do not want concealed handguns allowed on campus and would not seek to obtain a permit if it were legal in their state. Researchers surveyed 1,649 undergraduates; their results were recently published in the Journal of American College Health.

Fewer than one-fifth of students said they owned a firearm, and 79 percent said they wouldn't feel safe if faculty, students or visitors brought concealed handguns onto campus.

So far this year, at least 19 state legislatures have introduced bills to allow concealed carry on campus in some capacity, with just two of those bills passing, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Measures were introduced in five states this year to prohibit concealed carry on campus, but all failed.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/students-guns-on-campus-survey_n_3915232.html



Students grow up to write laws, gun nuts.

Fear the future.

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Midwest College Students Strongly Oppose Guns On Campus: Survey (Original Post) onehandle Sep 2013 OP
K&R. Sanity will reign, someday. marmar Sep 2013 #1
We Payed More & Sent Our Son otohara Sep 2013 #2
Excellent gopiscrap Sep 2013 #3
My nephew goes to Ball State LittleGirl Sep 2013 #4
This will work so long as golfguru Sep 2013 #5
Guns can stop mass shootings immediately bucolic_frolic Sep 2013 #6
Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No. SecularMotion Sep 2013 #7
Additionally a lot of states and municipalities nykym Sep 2013 #8
From you own source... beevul Sep 2013 #9
As stated in the post SecularMotion Sep 2013 #10
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
2. We Payed More & Sent Our Son
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 09:01 PM
Sep 2013

out of state because in CO they allow guns on campus.

With his long hair and mixed blood some idiot might think he was a terrist.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
4. My nephew goes to Ball State
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 10:59 PM
Sep 2013

we don't keep in touch but he would be one that would like to have an assault rifle for class, because of course, he was raised by my racist brother.

bucolic_frolic

(43,111 posts)
6. Guns can stop mass shootings immediately
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:12 AM
Sep 2013

but mixing youthful inexperience, indecision, alcohol, drugs, romance,
jealousies, rivalries, greek societies, and even liberals and conservatives
together on campus ....

can result in even more shootings.

Maybe campus security forces, surveillance cameras, vigilance
would reduce both problems without additional risk of violence.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
7. Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:10 AM
Sep 2013
In the wake of the unthinkable massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, pro-gun ideologues are once again calling for ordinary citizens to arm themselves as a solution to mass shootings. If only the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School had possessed a M-4 assault rifle she could've stopped the killer, they say. This latest twist on a long-running argument isn't just absurd on its face; there is no evidence to support it. As I reported recently in our in-depth investigation, not one of 62 mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years has been stopped this way. More broadly, attempts by armed civilians to intervene in shooting rampages are rare—and are successful even more rarely. (Two people who tried it in recent years were gravely wounded or killed.) And law enforcement overwhelmingly hates the idea of armed citizens getting involved.

Those pesky facts haven't stopped the "arm America more!" crowd from pressing the argument with alleged examples of successful armed interventions. The problem is, the few examples they keep using—in which they depict plain old folks acting heroically and with definitive results—fall apart under scrutiny. Here are five cases commonly cited and why they don't work:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/armed-civilians-do-not-stop-mass-shootings

nykym

(3,063 posts)
8. Additionally a lot of states and municipalities
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 01:27 PM
Sep 2013

who thought of arming teachers and staff have hit a roadblock.
namely their insurance carriers, who said if you arm we will drop your coverage.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
9. From you own source...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

From you own source...


New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado


In 2007 a gunman killed two people and wounded three others before being shot himself; the pro-gun crowd likes to refer to the woman who took him out in the parking lot as a "church member." Never mind that she was a security officer for the church and a former cop, and that the church had put its security team on high alert earlier that day due to another church shooting nearby.



She was a church member.

She was a volunteer security guard for the church.

Murrays stated intention was to kill as many as he could - that is, to commit a mass killing - anyone that needs the link, just say so and I'll dig it up.



 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
10. As stated in the post
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:06 PM
Sep 2013
More broadly, attempts by armed civilians to intervene in shooting rampages are rare—and are successful even more rarely.
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