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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:29 PM Sep 2013

Florida Police Chief: George Zimmerman Is ‘a Sandy Hook Waiting to Happen’

Source: Guardian

Florida police chief: George Zimmerman is ‘a Sandy Hook waiting to happen’

By Richard Luscombe, The Guardian
Friday, September 13, 2013 12:45 p.m.

A series of indiscreet emails by a Florida police chief has revealed his belief that Trayvon Martin’s killer George Zimmerman is a volatile character who is “a Sandy Hook waiting to happen”.

Steve Bracknell is the chief of the Lake Mary police department, which is investigating Zimmerman, 29, for allegedly threatening his estranged wife, Shellie, and his father-in-law with a gun on Monday.

In an email exchange with a Lake Mary resident critical of the department’s initial decision not to arrest or charge Zimmerman, Bracknell appears to agree with the writer’s description of Zimmerman, acquitted in July of murdering Martin, an unarmed black teenager, as “a ticking time bomb”.

“Zimmerman is a Sandy Hook, Aurora waiting to happen,” the resident, Santiago Rodriguez, told Bracknell in his first email, seeking an explanation for why Lake Mary officers did not charge Zimmerman.

“Your reference to Sandy Hook … I agree,” Bracknell replied.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/13/george-zimmerman-florida-police-chief

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Florida Police Chief: George Zimmerman Is ‘a Sandy Hook Waiting to Happen’ (Original Post) Hissyspit Sep 2013 OP
The totality of gun culture is also. onehandle Sep 2013 #1
yup he sure is! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #13
I think so too shenmue Sep 2013 #2
I agree. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #3
Fucking cowards, those jurors. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #5
I cant get out of my mind how that juror refered to GZ as George darkangel218 Sep 2013 #26
Yep Scairp Sep 2013 #11
I think he's a sociopath. It's a character trait. Ergo... truth2power Sep 2013 #17
I'm not sure Scairp Sep 2013 #28
You have characterized this most accurately. FarPoint Sep 2013 #24
I agree...I would love to know who those jurors are gopiscrap Sep 2013 #14
The guy is definitely dangerous ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #4
nope Incitatus Sep 2013 #18
Fucking great. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #25
What I don't get is obama2terms Sep 2013 #6
because an atmosphere of impunity is far more important than any one case that upholds MisterP Sep 2013 #7
Too many threats, too much money floating around during the trial. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #15
Whats really sad, and frightening about the situation. bearssoapbox Sep 2013 #8
You know what happens when someone is bailed out of things ejpoeta Sep 2013 #9
protecting this animal heaven05 Sep 2013 #10
Yep, my thoughts exactly and when it happens they should be exposed as such. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #16
I totally agree with the Police Chief now do something about it! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #12
You can't. We are a reactionary justice system davidn3600 Sep 2013 #20
Depends who you are. Stryder Sep 2013 #23
A little late to the party Egnever Sep 2013 #19
. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #21
This has to be exciting news for the Zimmerman fan club Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #22
He really is Aerows Sep 2013 #27
And yet there are STILL people here on DU who defend this racist asshole to no end and want him Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #29

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
3. I agree.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

And when he goes off those jurors are going to have to live with themselves and the decision they made to let a known killer walk free.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
26. I cant get out of my mind how that juror refered to GZ as George
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 05:41 PM
Sep 2013

The affection in her voice was sickening.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
11. Yep
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sep 2013

He's an angry guy and I believe he was an angry guy even before he killed Trayvon, and whether he had a gun or not on his hip, it sounds as if he was making physical movements that intended to make his estranged spouse and her father believe he had a gun on his person. Plus he completely destroyed her iPad by smashing it to bits and then using a pocket knife on it. I don't believe that part is in dispute. That is a violent act, a threat intended to frighten them into believing he would to do something more if they goaded him into it. He showed up there after agreeing to stay away so she could come get her personal things, why did he do that? Most reasonable people not wishing to escalate the plethora of hard feelings that occur with divorce would have done. Of course, if I had been her I would have insisted on asking the police to be present. She must know better than anyone what is going on inside his head so why she didn't get a police escort is beyond me. I guess she thought her father being there was enough. It seems he wanted a confrontation and he got one. He needs a therapist and time out of the limelight to get himself together so that he doesn't become a killer again. Divorce is nasty sometimes, and I'm really glad these two don't have kids (they don't right?), but it's so much worse in this situation because he is such a notorious character who has already proven he is capable of killing an unarmed person for no reason other than the one he made up in his head. I hope someone in his family or a close friend can prevail upon him to get help to deal with his anger and his feelings of impotence that make him feel that he must carry a gun at all times, which he was doing even before his deadly encounter with Trayvon. Clearly his feelings of inadequacy are not new and have been enhanced 100 fold since he killed that kid. Now he thinks everyone wants to kill him as payback and he definitely MUST have a gun at all times (and, apparently, a bodyguard. Who's paying for that when he has put in a claim with the state to cover his legal bills?). Someone needs to convince him that most of the rest of society isn't like him, carrying firearms and looking to murder him because he got off on his killing of Trayvon.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
17. I think he's a sociopath. It's a character trait. Ergo...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:42 PM
Sep 2013
"a therapist and time out of the limelight to get himself together" ain't gonna happen. Nohow, no way.

He is going to come to a bad end.

If Providence has any say in it, he'll avoid taking someone with him when he goes.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
28. I'm not sure
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 06:55 PM
Sep 2013

I think it might not be that bad. I think internally he's a frightened little man and doesn't know how to deal with his fear and anger except to lash out. He might actually be salvageable as a human being. I'm not a psychiatrist and wouldn't deign to try and guess what his mental health issues are, but at the very least he must be prevented from killing again and since the legal system chose not to stop him then the mental health system needs to step up and try and see to it he doesn't kill again. He's on the edge here, his infamy, his divorce. He is going to pop again if he doesn't get professional help.

FarPoint

(12,334 posts)
24. You have characterized this most accurately.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sep 2013

Yes...he indeed was angry even before he murdered Trayvon....

gopiscrap

(23,747 posts)
14. I agree...I would love to know who those jurors are
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 06:13 PM
Sep 2013

and have their face plastered all over the news the next time Zimmy kills some one!

obama2terms

(563 posts)
6. What I don't get is
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

Why is all of this coming out now? If all of these people think this now, then they had to have thought it during the trial. And now they are whining about him being a ticking time bomb? Well guess what? If they had convicted his sorry ass we wouldn't be having these issues now would we? The stupidity of these people is painful, if they had spoke up a while back, GZ would be exactly where he needs to be, in prison.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. because an atmosphere of impunity is far more important than any one case that upholds
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:31 PM
Sep 2013

that selfsame atmosphere--or even what you choose to do with that impunity

gopiscrap

(23,747 posts)
15. Too many threats, too much money floating around during the trial.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 06:14 PM
Sep 2013

I am sure there were more than a few NRA lawyers more than willing to fuck up anyone's life who happened to have crossed their path.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
8. Whats really sad, and frightening about the situation.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:42 PM
Sep 2013

He probably won't do what's right and take just himself out.

There will be innocents killed in the crossfire.


ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
9. You know what happens when someone is bailed out of things
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:48 PM
Sep 2013

and never made to face consequences??? exactly what george zimmerman is doing right now.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. protecting this animal
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:55 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:27 PM - Edit history (1)

will make all who allowed this travesty/caricature to be roaming the streets of society to be complicit in his next shooting/murder/incident.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
20. You can't. We are a reactionary justice system
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 04:01 AM
Sep 2013

You have to first break the law in order for the system to act.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
22. This has to be exciting news for the Zimmerman fan club
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 06:51 AM
Sep 2013

Their hero is likely to murder more innocent children

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. He really is
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 06:42 PM
Sep 2013

The man obviously has rage issues and carries guns. He has been absolved of Trayvon's murder which is likely to only encourage him to hurt more people.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
29. And yet there are STILL people here on DU who defend this racist asshole to no end and want him
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 08:12 PM
Sep 2013

to keep his fucking gun. It's sick!!

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