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Behind the Aegis

(53,936 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:02 AM Sep 2013

Putin says no discrimination of gays in Russia

Source: Associated Press (8 hours ago)

VALDAI, Russia (AP) — President Vladimir Putin denied Thursday that gays face discrimination in Russia, saying that a new law that has drawn protests worldwide does not infringe on their rights.

Putin on Thursday maintained that the law bans only "propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations among minors." He argued that it is "no infringement on the rights of sexual minorities" and insisted that European laws allowing gay marriage contribute to population declines.

The Russian law has prompted calls for boycotts of the 2014 Winter Olympics hosted by Russia in Sochi.

Putin said while some European nations have allowed gay marriages, "the Europeans are dying out ... and gay marriages don't produce children."


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-no-discrimination-gays-russia-165001806.html



Yeah, OK.
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Putin says no discrimination of gays in Russia (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 OP
Excuse me while I send him a dictionary. ncrainbowgrrl Sep 2013 #1
I never thought in a thread like this I would post... Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #2
I guess it's as funny as the 36 Olympics Committee saying a conspiracy among the press and Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #22
Putin kardonb Sep 2013 #21
And there's no discrimination of gays here neither! mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #3
Really?! How fantastic!!! Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #5
Oh chit, I think I forgot the sarcasm thingy mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #6
Don't think that would change the premise of the post. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #7
Oh now he suddenly cares about gays Jkid Sep 2013 #4
I don't think we have that many cows for the amount of BS right there sakabatou Sep 2013 #8
This reminds me of Ahmedenijad's fujiyama Sep 2013 #9
I tried to understand the "justification" for this. joshcryer Sep 2013 #10
Does he actually think anyone believes this? azurnoir Sep 2013 #11
Does Putin just read RW blogs all day? Ash_F Sep 2013 #12
Oh Vladimir, my dear... Celefin Sep 2013 #13
So then, subsidize IV fertilization. David__77 Sep 2013 #14
He'll be blaming gays for the Syrian gas attack next. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #15
That is what Germany said prior to the 36 Olympics, no discrimination against Jews there Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #16
Lying fucker. SoapBox Sep 2013 #18
Well of course there is no discrimination against gays in Russia - LibertyLover Sep 2013 #19
I normally post "what a fucking asshole! William769 Sep 2013 #20
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. I guess it's as funny as the 36 Olympics Committee saying a conspiracy among the press and
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:33 AM
Sep 2013

Jews caused the 'rumors' about discrimination in Hitler's Germany. They denied there was any discrimination and blamed the Jews for the 'rumor'. The IOC did this. The US team refused to allow Jews to compete. The US did this. Is it really funny? I don't think so.

Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #17)

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
21. Putin
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:17 PM
Sep 2013

the great liar ! He also said that he wants to create a democracy in Russia , lol . If he were Pinocchio , his nose would extend to the ends of the world . NEVER believe a word he utters , ever .

Jkid

(1,524 posts)
4. Oh now he suddenly cares about gays
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:25 AM
Sep 2013

Fuck you Tsar Putin. The only reason why your lackeys created and passed the bill is to maintain political control.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
10. I tried to understand the "justification" for this.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:09 AM
Sep 2013

Apparently they think the anti-libel law that they passed, which is quite stringent, would prevent anyone from falsely accusing someone of being gay, so if you're not gay, you're not going to be persecuted. Except if you are gay, you can get persecuted without violating the anti-libel law, except, this is where it falls apart, if you are openly gay about it, thus circumventing people calling you gay and embracing your identity, you wind up getting prosecuted under the anti-gay propaganda law!

In other words you can be called gay day and night, but you can't say "yeah, sure, that's who I am!" It is truly insane.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
12. Does Putin just read RW blogs all day?
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:10 AM
Sep 2013
"the Europeans are dying out ... and gay marriages don't produce children."

That right there is textbook.

Celefin

(532 posts)
13. Oh Vladimir, my dear...
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:23 AM
Sep 2013

you know I love you... but sometimes... just sometimes... I mean.. really.

I'd say fuck you now, but that is an action that also doesn't produce any children so there's that.

*sigh*

David__77

(23,367 posts)
14. So then, subsidize IV fertilization.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:44 AM
Sep 2013

Among all, not just heterosexual couples.

I actually see the very faintest bit of hope in his statement, as he is concerned enough to attempt to state something other than "homosexually is intrinsically evil," or something preposterous such as that it is against the Russian national character.

What is required is for SOME political force in Russia, probably a minority within an existing party or parties, to take an at least moderately reformist attitude toward the issue. Right now, only one legislator did not support the anti-homosexuality law that was passed. I believe that continued attention to the issue will result in a breakthrough ultimately. Putin and Russian politicians cannot claim that gay and lesbian people are some Western phenomenon - China currently has better conditions for gay people than does Russia.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. That is what Germany said prior to the 36 Olympics, no discrimination against Jews there
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:09 AM
Sep 2013

The IOC sent Mr Brundage to investigate, he concluded that the charges of discrimination were a conspiracy to harm Hitler, hatched by the press and the Jews. Yes indeed. The US team took Jewish members to Berlin but did not allow any of them to compete.
They are doing the same thing this time. Obama and everyone says 'we have to go to Sochi for the athletes, the gay stuff is not important'.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
19. Well of course there is no discrimination against gays in Russia -
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:47 PM
Sep 2013

according to one of their ministers a few weeks ago, they don't have gays in Russia since he doesn't personally know any. Ipso facto, there can be no discrimination!

William769

(55,144 posts)
20. I normally post "what a fucking asshole!
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

Now changing to what a fucking lying asshole! Which it should have been all along.

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