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U.S. allows Venezuelan officials to fly over United States
Source: Reuters
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States approved a last-minute flight plan for Venezuelan officials, the State Department said on Friday, in a move that allowed Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro to fly over Puerto Rico on his way to China.
Washington told Venezuela late on Thursday that permission was granted even though the request had not been properly submitted, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said.
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Harf said Venezuela did not follow proper steps in its flyover request, giving just one day's notice instead of the required three.
"Additionally, the plane in question was not a state aircraft, which is required for a diplomatic clearance," she said in a statement.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/20/us-venezuela-usa-overflight-idUSBRE98J0G320130920
the Ven Oil Minister waiting for Maduro in China responded to the (false) claim from Venezuela in this diplomatic manner, ""Say what you like. Go to hell Yankee shits. We're free. The rest doesn't matter!" Ramirez said.
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and stern words 
here's some more fail while you wait
"Say what you like. Go to hell Yankee shits. We're free. The rest doesn't matter!" Ramirez said.
Dear Mr. Ramirez, et al:
No, you're scurrying to pay tribute to your new lords and masters, the Chinese corporate CEOs. That might not sit too well with your peasant class, though.
So keep flogging that dead horse from history to make the USA the big villain and wave scraps of colored fabric over your dead. You trained people to howl when you blow the dog whistle. Surely the local press and the man in the street will praise your big cojones for elevating discourse by using the word shit. Meh.
But the Chinese now own your ass, just like they own so many resources in the Americas. Without voting but with the collusion of governments and oligarchs there, you will sell your land and your people to your new masters.
Any resistance mounted by the indigenous peoples to stop being slaughtered by the armed forces of global interests were not resisted by 'free©' governments. Who knows, maybe there is something to be learned from all of this. The world is not what you tell us, but we knew that all along, didn't we?
In all cases, even the USA, they are called 'allies.' But the global interests, like all merchants, regard no land as sacred, nor the living flora, fauna and people that rely on it. They only want what they can take to other places, like pirates. Did you fight the forces that dictate your foreign and domestic policy, are you really 'free©' when you do the bidding of Russia, China, etc.?
During the course of the bloody resource wars in Latin America, you stood by and let the masses fight and kill each other in the behalf of your friends, like the ones you are flying to visit right now.
You are not 'free©' you have merely been summoned. Just because the names are changed, it doesn't protect the guilty. Your 'freedom©' did not protect the innocent. I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers, if I was you.
As much as I love the image below, I'm sure that is not what is going on behind the scenes at all in the present context. AFAIK, those pieces of cloth were just the icing on the coffin, as the forces that run the world don't care about the symbolism that captures the human imagination.
While I prefer the style on the left, it's not really good enough, as it is not just to those who gained capital through education and work, not conquest or chicanery. But can we really separate the two?
What is on the right is not good at all but for a few in a country, the landed ones, and makes landless slaves out of the rest. They and the bounty of nature will all be driven from both sides to feed the global machine.
Nations mean nothing, so quit your swaggering. One may say what idiocy one wants about PBO, but his humility in the face of these foes of equality says much more in terms of realizing hard facts on the ground, and not exploiting people to serve others. I'm sure he is very aware there are immense forces arrayed against common folks.
So Mr. Ramirez, I don't trust your version of 'free©' government to not sell people out, after seeing what your fellow 'freedomfighter©' Evo did in the end, to feed the global machine, with the new brand name, China, attached instead of one of the western names. That doesn't change the facts on the ground, unless Chinese CEOs are more humane than anyone else, something many doubt.
Despite my initial affection for the ideas Evo stood for, I see results. I don't trust him anymore than I trust the USA's Koch-funded 'freedomfighters©.'
DUers, please pardon the sources, but I've read the same stories on the DU, various times and sources:
http://lithiuminvestingnews.com/4140/china-and-bolivia-enter-lithium-resource-agreement/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bolivia-s-mine-nationalization-of-south-american-silver-corporation/31942
http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/3794.cfm
http://climateandcapitalism.com/2012/09/06/behind-bolivias-nationalization-of-canadian-mine/
I don't read these with the emotional and ideological bent they work to convey, so satisfying even to me, but gather meager ideas of what is going on there and cross reference it against my own values.
The indigenous people are pitted against the poor to do the bidding of the same global cabals. It doesn't change the facts to change the names of the owners.
Disclaimer: I'm in a crappy mood so this comment is not at all fair or balanced, and my conclusions may be way off, but when you feel crappy, things are off.
I am not really surprised by much of anything, but we all have to figure out where we are positioned in this global milieu. I leave you this popular quote, which is to be taken with a grain of salt, too:
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
~ Frank Zappa
Dear Mr. Ramirez, et al:
No, you're scurrying to pay tribute to your new lords and masters, the Chinese corporate CEOs. That might not sit too well with your peasant class, though.
So keep flogging that dead horse from history to make the USA the big villain and wave scraps of colored fabric over your dead. You trained people to howl when you blow the dog whistle. Surely the local press and the man in the street will praise your big cojones for elevating discourse by using the word shit. Meh.
But the Chinese now own your ass, just like they own so many resources in the Americas. Without voting but with the collusion of governments and oligarchs there, you will sell your land and your people to your new masters.
Any resistance mounted by the indigenous peoples to stop being slaughtered by the armed forces of global interests were not resisted by 'free©' governments. Who knows, maybe there is something to be learned from all of this. The world is not what you tell us, but we knew that all along, didn't we?
In all cases, even the USA, they are called 'allies.' But the global interests, like all merchants, regard no land as sacred, nor the living flora, fauna and people that rely on it. They only want what they can take to other places, like pirates. Did you fight the forces that dictate your foreign and domestic policy, are you really 'free©' when you do the bidding of Russia, China, etc.?
During the course of the bloody resource wars in Latin America, you stood by and let the masses fight and kill each other in the behalf of your friends, like the ones you are flying to visit right now.
You are not 'free©' you have merely been summoned. Just because the names are changed, it doesn't protect the guilty. Your 'freedom©' did not protect the innocent. I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers, if I was you.
As much as I love the image below, I'm sure that is not what is going on behind the scenes at all in the present context. AFAIK, those pieces of cloth were just the icing on the coffin, as the forces that run the world don't care about the symbolism that captures the human imagination.
While I prefer the style on the left, it's not really good enough, as it is not just to those who gained capital through education and work, not conquest or chicanery. But can we really separate the two?
What is on the right is not good at all but for a few in a country, the landed ones, and makes landless slaves out of the rest. They and the bounty of nature will all be driven from both sides to feed the global machine.
Nations mean nothing, so quit your swaggering. One may say what idiocy one wants about PBO, but his humility in the face of these foes of equality says much more in terms of realizing hard facts on the ground, and not exploiting people to serve others. I'm sure he is very aware there are immense forces arrayed against common folks.
So Mr. Ramirez, I don't trust your version of 'free©' government to not sell people out, after seeing what your fellow 'freedomfighter©' Evo did in the end, to feed the global machine, with the new brand name, China, attached instead of one of the western names. That doesn't change the facts on the ground, unless Chinese CEOs are more humane than anyone else, something many doubt.
Despite my initial affection for the ideas Evo stood for, I see results. I don't trust him anymore than I trust the USA's Koch-funded 'freedomfighters©.'
DUers, please pardon the sources, but I've read the same stories on the DU, various times and sources:
http://lithiuminvestingnews.com/4140/china-and-bolivia-enter-lithium-resource-agreement/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bolivia-s-mine-nationalization-of-south-american-silver-corporation/31942
http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/3794.cfm
http://climateandcapitalism.com/2012/09/06/behind-bolivias-nationalization-of-canadian-mine/
I don't read these with the emotional and ideological bent they work to convey, so satisfying even to me, but gather meager ideas of what is going on there and cross reference it against my own values.
The indigenous people are pitted against the poor to do the bidding of the same global cabals. It doesn't change the facts to change the names of the owners.
Disclaimer: I'm in a crappy mood so this comment is not at all fair or balanced, and my conclusions may be way off, but when you feel crappy, things are off.
I am not really surprised by much of anything, but we all have to figure out where we are positioned in this global milieu. I leave you this popular quote, which is to be taken with a grain of salt, too:
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
~ Frank Zappa