Academics join CUNY David Petraeus protests as NYPD arrests six students
Source: theguardian.com, Friday 20 September 2013 11.14 ED
YouTube video appears to show demonstrator against appointment of general and CIA chief being punched repeatedly
by Adam Gabbatt in New York
Scores of academics at the City University of New York have signed a petition calling for charges against six students, arrested during a protest against David Petraeus, to be dropped. The academics have also called for the former four-star general to resign from his teaching role at CUNY.
The six students were detained on Tuesday as they demonstrated outside a fundraiser being attended by Petraeus, who began his career as a CUNY adjunct professor this month. The students were charged on Wednesday night with multiple offences including disorderly conduct, riot, resisting arrest and obstruction of governmental administration.
However protesters argue that police were heavy-handed as they conducted the arrests. Video footage showed one demonstrator being repeatedly struck in the ribs as officers place him in handcuffs.
The arrests, which were conducted at what demonstrators insist was a peaceful protest, have galvanised support for the protesters from CUNY students and professors and from professors elsewhere in New York and beyond.
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greiner3
(5,214 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)That we have to find this stuff out from the Guardian.
I just looked for the story about the petition at Google News. Aside from the Guardian, it was mentioned in the Gothamist yesterday at the end of a more general story on the protest. Otherwise ... crickets.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)capitalism and especially capitalism in crisis.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Especially when LEOs refer to citizens as "civilians"
And also the wearing of Military Ranks on their Uniforms
LAPD Rank Insignia
UNITED STATES POLICE RANKS AND INSIGNIA
jsr
(7,712 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
Decaffeinated
(556 posts)A buddy of mine is teaching at CUNY right now and he likes it. Students are a mix but that is normal as well.
I don't know about this last protest but I saw video of the one before that as he was walking. Is it legal or acceptable to scream in the face of someone as they walk down the street?
Are there any restrictions on it?
24601
(3,959 posts)Disorderly conduct?
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)nm
delta17
(283 posts)I thought college was a place to be exposed to different ideas and people. These protesters are basically trying to force out someone they disagree with. These mob tactics are pretty ugly.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)At least the protestors are not trying to bomb or drone civilians. All they're demanding is that the military stay OUT of CUNY.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)The next time the president visits CUNY, I'd like to compare this to the treatment those protesters get. I'm curious to see if it will be better or worse.
Decaffeinated
(556 posts)... are going to do the same to Obama?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)and at the CIA, it would make sense that they'd also be upset with the guy who appointed him...
But honestly, I'd be surprised if it were the same people.
Decaffeinated
(556 posts)... but I don't think it will happen.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:45 PM - Edit history (2)
http://amsterdamnews.com/news/2013/sep/26/six-arrested-cuny-petraeus-protest/9/26/2013, 2:15 p.m.
http://www.popularresistance.org/petraeus-scared-veterans-drive-the-general-out-of-la/
September 27th, 2013
http://www.answercoalition.org/march-forward/statements/petraeus-running-scared.html
Veterans drive petraeus out of October LA Luncheon
SEPTEMBER 26, 2013
https://www.facebook.com/MarchForward
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)Harvey Silverglate, Contributor
I write about injustices in the justice system.
LAW | 10/01/2013 @ 8:00AM |1,059 views
The CUNY-Petraeus Imbroglio: Even Uncivilized Students Have Their Rights
One does not hear much these days about university faculty members coming out loudly and publicly in support of academic freedom. So I was startled when I read that on September 13th the University Faculty Senate Executive Committee at the City University of New York (CUNY) issued a statement criticizing CUNY student protests against the schools appointment of former CIA director and Army general David Petraeus as Macaulay Honors College Visiting Professor as an attack on academic freedom. But then I realized that this statement furthered the cause of faculty freedom, a right professors too often consider far more sacrosanct than the freedom of students to speak. (After all, faculty rarely challenge and often support the speech codes plaguing most campuses today.) The CUNY Faculty Senate Executive Committee has seemingly sought to protect what it views as faculty academic freedom by seeking an arguable restriction of student academic freedom to criticize both a faculty member and the universitys decision to offer him a visiting lectureship.
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The kerfuffle over Petraeus presence at CUNY reminded me of one of my earliest college disciplinary cases dealing with the line between protected speech (that is, speech protected by academic freedom) and prohibited true harassment. In the early 1970s I represented a group of Harvard undergraduates who were exceedingly unhappy that a Harvard faculty member and administrator, Professor of History and Dean of Harvard College Ernest May (recently deceased), had a side gig as advisor to the United States Department of Defense. The students, firmly in the anti-war camp, sought to protest what they viewed as Harvards unseemly contribution to the war effort.
The Harvard undergraduates shadowed Dean May everywhere he went. In the morning, when he left his home to walk to the campus, a student contingent was waiting to follow him, shouting, rhythmically and without interruption, Murderer! Murderer! Murderer! The group waited while May performed his assigned duties, then the students continued to follow May with their chant. This continued 24 hours a day, since several groups of students switched off in performing their protest.
Dean May complained to the Administrative Board, Harvard Colleges student disciplinary body, which charged the students with harassment for following May closely while shouting murderer. At the Administrative Board hearing, Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz and I represented the students. We argued that their actions toward Dean May constituted an exercise of their right to free speech that was not just permissible but protected by principles of academic freedom. Were Harvard a public university, we pointed out, the protections of the First Amendment would likewise kick in. (Private institutions, in contrast to a public university like CUNY, are not bound by the Bill of Rights.)
The Administrative Board absolved the students of the charges, although it warned them to keep a respectable distance from Dean May at all times so as not to interfere with his mobility, nor his physical comfort (that is to say, they could not shout directly into his ear). As for Dean Mays psychological comfort, he would simply have to live with the criticism that came with his position with the Department of Defense while a Harvard faculty member and administrator. (Harvard College later changed its rules to prohibit the presence of lawyers, or even law school professors, at student disciplinary hearings, but thats another story.)
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proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)The Harvard Crimson
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BREAKING NEWS: David H. Petraeus will join @Kennedy_School as a non-res senior fellow at the Belfer Center, according to HKS spokesperson.
11:35 AM - 18 Oct 13
Link from: http://gawker.com/david-petraeus-is-joining-harvard-kennedy-school-where-1447963634