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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:03 AM Sep 2013

State House Staffer Leaves Loaded Gun In Missouri Capitol Men's Room

Source: Huffington Post

A staff member for the speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives reportedly left a loaded gun in a men's bathroom in the state capitol building last week.

A Kahr CM9 9 mm gun belonging to Dave Evans, House Speaker Tim Jones's (R-Eureka) legislative assistant, was found on top of a toilet paper dispenser in a bathroom stall last Friday, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Monday. A police report obtained by the Post-Dispatch noted that the gun had one hollow point bullet in its chamber and six bullets in its magazine. The gun was found in a stall by another state legislative staffer and was secured by capitol police.

The police report noted that a different staffer for Jones had contacted capitol police to say that Evans had misplaced the gun and could not find it in the bathroom. After confirming that Evans was the gun's owner, police returned the weapon to him.

State lawmakers and legislative staffers are allowed to carry concealed weapons into the statehouse.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/dave-evans-missouri_n_3983902.html



Elected responsible gun owners.
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State House Staffer Leaves Loaded Gun In Missouri Capitol Men's Room (Original Post) onehandle Sep 2013 OP
Dude, scaring the crap out of yourself is not a good long-term solution. tanyev Sep 2013 #1
That's the same model gun that Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon rdharma Sep 2013 #2
Factually incorrect. TheDeputy Sep 2013 #3
Really? onehandle Sep 2013 #7
I stand corrected. Just got up and typed on my iPhone. I read Kel-Tec where it said Kahr. rdharma Sep 2013 #8
Shit happens. TheDeputy Sep 2013 #10
That's a posibility. rdharma Sep 2013 #11
I carry either a S&W Model 642 .38 caliber snub nosed revolver or a ... spin Sep 2013 #32
Wrap your head around this, Johnny shit is happening, I'm not packing, and I'm not afraid. toby jo Sep 2013 #14
I imagine many people pretend relevance by telling their co-workers the precise make, model and year LanternWaste Sep 2013 #20
Youre a cop, though. bunnies Sep 2013 #27
Probably not. n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #33
Just going by what he said in another thread. bunnies Sep 2013 #34
I swear, there are more cops on DU than there are "former Navy SEALs" at gun shows! rdharma Sep 2013 #35
lol!!! bunnies Sep 2013 #37
+1. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #38
"Take the gun. Leave the cannoli." CTyankee Sep 2013 #4
"Oh, Paulie... won't see him no more." onehandle Sep 2013 #5
He considers himself "a responsible gun owner," no doubt. n/t LeftinOH Sep 2013 #6
If he only had a strong, well designed holster! n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #9
Freedumb! hatrack Sep 2013 #12
Missouri if you are in State Senator Brian Nieves (R) District get a gun shoved up your nose. gordianot Sep 2013 #13
Two questions from someone who is not familiar with firearms. Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #15
Answers: GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #18
Here's a question that's perhaps not so easily answered.... MADem Sep 2013 #28
Probably had an in-the-waistband holster on his belt. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #30
If you are in a "self defense situation" & you left your loaded gun in a public bathroom, CrispyQ Sep 2013 #29
People forget stuff. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #31
So this incident is no big deal, as far as you're concerned? (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #36
Not nearly as big a deal as the gun-grabbers here are making it out to be. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #40
There is also another name for it...NEGLIGENCE Bandit Sep 2013 #41
Fucking idiot gopiscrap Sep 2013 #16
It happens sometimes. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #17
is simply part and parcel of the price we pay so people can carry... LanternWaste Sep 2013 #21
Sandy Hook had nothing to do with CCW. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #23
It's always weird knowing who was the last person to take a shit in the same toilet you are using snooper2 Sep 2013 #19
This comment AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #25
i Agree haydukelives Sep 2013 #39
House Staffer On A Roll grilled onions Sep 2013 #22
Shit, man. Gun-owners are like abusive boyfriends. Aristus Sep 2013 #24
Gee, I hope this doesn't ruin this nice young Republican fellow's future political ambitions! rdharma Sep 2013 #26
Proper OWB holster... ileus Sep 2013 #42

tanyev

(42,523 posts)
1. Dude, scaring the crap out of yourself is not a good long-term solution.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:17 AM
Sep 2013

Try magnesium supplements instead.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
2. That's the same model gun that Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:42 AM
Sep 2013

Must be very popular with paranoid idiots.

 

TheDeputy

(224 posts)
3. Factually incorrect.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:51 AM
Sep 2013

George Zimmerman used a pistol manufactured by Kel-Tec. It is well designed, but rough around the edges.

The Kahr CM9 is a brilliantly designed little pistol that is exquisitely made. I used to carry one as a backup pistol.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
8. I stand corrected. Just got up and typed on my iPhone. I read Kel-Tec where it said Kahr.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:34 AM
Sep 2013

I guess that makes the Republican legislative assistant a "smarter type" of paranoid idiot.

 

TheDeputy

(224 posts)
10. Shit happens.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:40 AM
Sep 2013

I am carrying a gun right now. It is a Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm Compact. Nice pistol.

I must be paranoid.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
11. That's a posibility.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:47 AM
Sep 2013

I note that you felt compelled to give the exact make and model of the gun you a carrying.......that speaks volumes.

spin

(17,493 posts)
32. I carry either a S&W Model 642 .38 caliber snub nosed revolver or a ...
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
Sep 2013

S&W Model 351PD .22 magnum snub nosed revolver. If giving the exact make and model of the handguns I carry speaks volumes, what does my choices say about me?

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
14. Wrap your head around this, Johnny shit is happening, I'm not packing, and I'm not afraid.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:03 AM
Sep 2013

See if you can do that.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. I imagine many people pretend relevance by telling their co-workers the precise make, model and year
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:46 AM
Sep 2013

I imagine many people pretend relevance by telling their co-workers the precise make, model and year of the car they drove to work the morning of a nearby auto accident.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
34. Just going by what he said in another thread.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:56 PM
Sep 2013
Odd that he didnt mention it here though. Seems relevant.
 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
35. I swear, there are more cops on DU than there are "former Navy SEALs" at gun shows!
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 03:17 PM
Sep 2013

Strange that, eh?

gordianot

(15,234 posts)
13. Missouri if you are in State Senator Brian Nieves (R) District get a gun shoved up your nose.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:59 AM
Sep 2013

If not that let him slam the door and make physical threats. How many times can patrons of your own District file charges with Capital Police. Staffers with firearms in Missouri is not funny.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
15. Two questions from someone who is not familiar with firearms.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:19 AM
Sep 2013

1. Are hollow point bullets legal?

2. Is it safe to carry a firearm with a bullet in the chamber?

Just asking.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
18. Answers:
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

Hollow points are legal in all states except in New Jersey. Hollow points are better than FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) because they are less likely to over penetrate and come out the other side of the person who is shot. Further, they are more likely to stop the bad guy because the will do more tissue damage.

Semi-auto pistols are designed to be carried fully loaded, which means one in the chamber. If you are ever in a self-defense situation you may not have time to rack the slide to chamber a round, and you may not have the use of both hands to do it with, so you carry with a round in the chamber.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Here's a question that's perhaps not so easily answered....
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:42 AM
Sep 2013

Why would anyone take off their gun in the State House crapper and leave it on the paper towel holder?

I'm trying to understand the how and why of this!

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
30. Probably had an in-the-waistband holster on his belt.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:02 PM
Sep 2013

For all holsters that attach to the belt, sitting on the commode is a problem. You have to remove the gun a put it somewhere.

Since I carry in-the-pocket, it isn't a problem for me.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
29. If you are in a "self defense situation" & you left your loaded gun in a public bathroom,
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:21 PM
Sep 2013

then maybe the police shouldn't just give your fucking gun back to you! Maybe you should pay a steep fine & be forced to take a refresher gun safety class.

Not POd at you, GSC, just the insanity of it all.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
31. People forget stuff.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:07 PM
Sep 2013

Sometimes babies are forgotten in cars. Sometimes people forget where the park their cars. I once forgot to turn the kitchen stove off under a teakettle of water. The water boiled dry and then the aluminum teakettle melted on the stove.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
17. It happens sometimes.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:30 AM
Sep 2013

There are over ten milion people with CCW. Out of that many, some will lose their guns. Your demand for absolute perfection is impossible.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. is simply part and parcel of the price we pay so people can carry...
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:50 AM
Sep 2013

"Your demand for absolute perfection is impossible...."

Hence, the deaths of 20 schoolchildren at Sandy Hook is simply part and parcel of the price we (well, they paid) pay so people may carry weapons if they so choose...

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
22. House Staffer On A Roll
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:50 AM
Sep 2013

That one will be fun at the next state roaster! All napkins can be crafted in the shape of TP(Koch brand only!!).

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
24. Shit, man. Gun-owners are like abusive boyfriends.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sep 2013

If they're not fetishizing the object of their obsession, they're neglecting it...

ileus

(15,396 posts)
42. Proper OWB holster...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:58 PM
Sep 2013

Always...No need to remove it from your belt.

How do you leave behind 500 bucks.

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