Warning graphic content: Deadly drug that rots flesh of users arrives in Arizona
Source: New York Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/warning-graphic-drug-rots-flesh-arrives-arizona-article-1.1468058
Known as Krokodil, the drug not only kills most users within a year of their first hit, it eats away at their skin and opens giant sores down to the bone.
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NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Results are disturbing.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Yikes, disturbing indeed.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Good golly!
obama2terms
(563 posts)I could barely look at the screen, it was disturbing. I wonder why people choose to use a drug that has such heavy consequences..
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,580 posts)There are lots of ways to get high, including legal ones.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I suspect that mostly heroin addicts fall victim to it. Heroin withdraw can be very severe both mentally and physically. This drug is very cheap and easy to produce. So someone facing the choice between heroin withdraw and this drug may see it as a better alternative than taking a swan dive off a building. Very sad stuff. This is why I'm for legalizing all recreation drugs, although some may still need to be administered under a doctors care. Locking up junkies or leaving them to die in the streets is not the answer.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)So, it appears you want to kill yourself.
But all I can really think of how a person is reduced to the state of being in which they do this to themselves.
I've known people who are chain smoking, which is lighting one cigarette from the fire of the one just consumed. But it's a slow death, like many others.
The reaction that occurs seems disconnected from the here and now, with no context, no sense of time or any other factor.
I can only imagine that the state of mind of a human being that would take this drug, is one that has simply unable to enjoy life at all.
And death doesn't matter to them, as they have no future or past, only the now taking the drug. All that matters is whatever they seek with the drug.
Which they never find, because it is not what they are really searching for, so they must keep going.
Although their brain tells them they are escaping. It's illusion, a trick, and their lives go up in smoke.
The human race has deep wounds that may not be able to heal. A depressing thought, indeed.
We seem to be in a state of mindlessness, some of us, and it is not nirvana. At least not in my opinion, when there are so many good things to enjoy, if one feels free to choose them.
Warpy
(111,237 posts)this is all they can find on the street and they're starting to get drug sick from waiting too long between doses.
I'm just waiting to see it here in NM. I'm just glad I retired and don't have to deal with it on a day to day basis.
It looks horrible, rotting them from the inside. I think this should be an advertisement for why the drug war needs to be ended.
Then again, I can hear the moralists sneering that without arms and legs, they'll have to get off drugs and return to Jebus.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Just... have a look at this.
I have a very difficult time think there is actually a junkie desperate enough to shoot up hydrochloric acid and paint thinner... especially when you could just huff the gas or paint thinner or just take the goddamned codeine.
But then... there are some surprisingly desperate people in the world, I suppose...
NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)The tissue damage comes from the various impurities.
Chakab
(1,727 posts)"Krododil" is essentially bathtub smack cooked up by opiate addicts who can't afford heroin in Russia.
Here's a Vice documentary on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JsUH8llvTZo
Over-the-counter pain killers sold in the States don't contain opiates to the best of my knowledge, so I'm not sure how this would catch on here. Unfortunately, there's plenty of oxy and real heroin in the US for people to poison themselves with.
Liberty Belle
(9,533 posts)Confirms what the drug does, though this was published before the 2 cases surfaced in AZ. This is now all over - AP, USA Today and CNN all have stories up, and many more. It's also confirmed in the major Russian media; there are estimates of 1-3 million addicts over there. Insane.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Much like bathtub gin caused "jake leg" or home-cooked meth causes way more nasty shit than Desoxyn (pharmaceutical meth).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)"Seemed like a good idea at the time."
Angleae
(4,482 posts)Which is what this drug is, pure insanity.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)It might be being manufactured somewhere or by someone else and being sold as heroin. Drug dealers, especially for the hard stuff, aren't the most honest bunch. Or it might be some dipshit that got a recipe off the internet and no one here will ever use the stuff again.
The tissue damage is likely coming from phosphorus. The technique for cooking it is crude as hell, so the end result is really impure. I'd never heard of anyone getting phossy jaw from red phosphorus before Krokodil was around, but generally people aren't crazy or desperate enough to inject the stuff, so that's not much of a shock.
I'm extremely skeptical about it catching on here in any form or fashion. It's only really an option where codeine is OTC.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)Aside from its addictive properties, the main cause of the various other injuries (tissue damage, etc) is the sloppy amateur prep, leading to really bad impurities...
This is really disturbing info....
Kencorburn
(74 posts)i remember a few years ago reading about this drug wreaking havoc in Russia.
primavera
(5,191 posts)Lobo27
(753 posts)Very rampant in some parts of Russia.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Systematic (IUPAC) name
4,5-α-Epoxy-17-methylmorphinan-3-ol
Legal status: Prohibited (S9) (AU) Schedule I (US)
Dependence liability: Very High
Identifiers:
CAS number: 427-00-9
ATC code: None
PubChem CID: 5362456
ChemSpider: 4515044 Yes
UNII 7OP86J5E33 Yes
Synonyms Desomorphine, Dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid
Chemical data -
Formula: C17H21NO2
Mol. mass: 271.354 g/mol
Desomorphine (dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid) is an opioid first patented in 1932 in the United States that is a derivative of morphine, where the 6-hydroxyl group has been removed and the 7,8 double bond has been reduced. It has sedative and analgesic effects, and is around 8-10 times more potent than morphine. It was used[clarification needed] in Switzerland under the brand name Permonid, and was described as having a fast onset and a short duration of action, with relatively little nausea or respiratory depression compared to equivalent doses of morphine. The traditional synthesis of desomorphine starts from α-chlorocodide, which is itself obtained by reacting thionyl chloride with codeine. By catalytic reduction, α-chlorocodide gives dihydrodesoxycodeine, which yields desomorphine on demethylation.
"Krokodil"
Desomorphine attracted attention in 2010 in Russia due to an increase in clandestine production, presumably due to its relatively simple synthesis from codeine. The drug is easily made from codeine, iodine and red phosphorus,[8] in a process similar to the manufacture of methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine; like methamphetamine, desomorphine made this way is often highly impure and is contaminated with various toxic and corrosive byproducts. The street name in Russia for home-made desomorphine is "krokodil" (крокодил, crocodile), reportedly due to the scale-like appearance of skin of its users and the derivation from chlorocodide. Due to difficulties in procuring heroin, combined with easy and cheap access to over-the-counter pharmacy products containing codeine in Russia, use of "krokodil" has been on the increase. The high associated with krokodil is akin to that of heroin, but lasts a much shorter period. While the effects of heroin use can last four to eight hours, the effects of krokodil do not usually extend past one and a half hours, with the symptoms of withdrawal setting in soon after. Krokodil takes roughly 30 minutes to an hour to prepare with over-the-counter ingredients in a kitchen. Since the home-made mix is routinely injected immediately with little or no further purification, "krokodil" has become notorious for producing severe tissue damage, phlebitis and gangrene, sometimes requiring limb amputation in long-term users. The amount of tissue damage is so high that addicts' life expectancies are said to be as low as two to three years, especially as they are often highly susceptible to infections and gangrene due to widespread HIV infection among injecting drug users in Russia.
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Laelth
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Kablooie
(18,625 posts)windsormich19454
(6 posts)I really wish I didn't click on that article. Those graphic images will stay in my mind for a long time.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Desomorphine is not good, but the flesh-eating stuff comes from poor hygiene, not the drug itself.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)It doesn't matter how good your hygiene is. The poisons are impurities in the drug (which is made from extremely poisonous chemicals).
You're thinking of bacterial infection from dirty needles, which, while possible while shooting up Krokodil, isn't the most harmful thing that can happen from this drug.
inch4progress
(270 posts)this wouldn't be the problem that it is.
Give the people free heroin, methadone, suboxone instead. Although following usage of this "home baked" drug their tolerance is going to have to be seriously tweaked downward, which is easily accomplished at home or in a health care setting.
Scairp
(2,749 posts)This stuff does get people high right? So some of them just do not care that it kills them very shortly afterwards? I understand wanting to get high but this seems extreme even for junkies.
inch4progress
(270 posts)You see that with a few drugs, they don't eat, maintain proper hygiene etc. Basically the reward we get from these primitive habits and needs(eat, sleep, washing etc) can't possibly compete with the reward the drug provides.
ReRe
(10,597 posts).... night of the living dead-Thriller-zombie shit.
Vestigial_Sister
(182 posts)going to try "The World's best coffe cake recipe" located directly below the pics?
progressoid
(49,969 posts)Javaman
(62,510 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)But not as scary as this one, IMO...