Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

[geek tragedy]

Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2013, 04:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Politico

House Republicans are moving toward putting a bill on the floor that would delay the individual mandate and cancel health-insurance subsidies for members of Congress, the president and administration appointees, according to multiple sources.

That bill would be part of a government funding measure to which the Senate would have to agree, which is highly unlikely. Just this afternoon, the Senate rejected the House’s last move this weekend to delay Obamacare and repeal the medical device tax as part of a government funding bill.

The government shuts down at midnight and this move would all but ensure that occurs.




Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/house-senate-government-shutdown-97557.html

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This is a vote for a shutdown.

Edited to add:

Does Boehner even have the votes for this? This would be a vote to fund the rest of Obamacare. I can't see the Cruzaders supporting that.

[Iliyah]

1. WTF is wrong with these house gop reps?

Instead of working for creation of jobs they obsessing with Obamacare that has nothing to do with the debt. Assholes, please get rid of them in 2014.

PLEASE

[bunnies]

2. Boehner is such a pathetic speaker.

He couldnt even get those children to pass a clean CR? What a bunch of idiots. smh.

[sharp_stick]

10. It would pass

with Democratic support but he'd lose control of his caucus and maybe even have to give up the gavel that he uses to prop himself up after a few too many scotch's for lunch.

He won't allow a clean CR to come up until he's forced too. Then he'll start this whole charade over again in a little while with the debt ceiling.

He and his entire caucus are about as useless as an ejection seat in a helicopter.

[bunnies]

11. That last sentence is genius.

I dont know why in hell Boehner would want to be speaker anyway. I'd be giving that damn job away with those nutbags to work with.

[sharp_stick]

12. I don't think I could even be in the same room

with those crazies never mind actually having to work with them.

[bunnies]

14. Agreed. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Probably the weakest speaker ever. Does he really cry in his whine glass? nt

[bunnies]

16. No doubt. In both cases.

[Heather MC]

3. "cancel health-insurance subsidies for members of Congress"

And so now it comes down to the real reason they are fighting this.

"For the American People" My black ass
this has been about them the whole time
What sick game they are willing to play to live above the law

[cstanleytech]

5. I got a better idea how about a cut to the pay that never expires

for all senators and those in congress so that they are paid no more than what the national average poverty level is every year, maybe then some of these asshats would wake up to reality but I kinda doubt it.

[Old Navy]

27. Minimum wage until further notice.

And no city cost of adjustments.

No insurance. No nothing, let them find their way home.

No perks. No jets. No fact finding missions. No vacations.

No booze.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

8. My black ass indeed. They really think we're stupid. NO MORE TAXPAYER-FUNDED

Healthcare for you, Congress. Republicans, you have to enter the exchanges just like the rest of us who don't already have insurance or don't have an employer (THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) provide it for you!!!

We know they can afford it. If they don't want to participate in the federal exchanges, tough shit! They can buy insurance through the private market, since they think it does a better job anyway.

They need to get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

[watoos]

4. It looks like Boehner

has a big supply of that warm wine in the basement.

[watoos]

6. What? Their Bill would cancel health care subsidies for the President?

There has a been a White House doctor since 1901, I think. Are these people nutz? Sorry, rhetorical question.
The White House doctor has an office in the White House, he is there to see that our President, whoever he is, stays healthy. I'm sure the corporate-controlled M$M will be all over this stupidity.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

7. This doesn't even make sense...

Note that canceling subsidies for members of Congress makes no sense. Members of Congress make too much money to quality for subsidies. They are required to participate in the exchanges just like everyone else. No more taxpayer-funded health care. And sense most of them make enough money to provide for themselves and their families--like Ted Cruz and his gold plated plan from Goldman Sachs--they can go the private route.

Likewise suspending the individual mandate makes no sense, as many members of Congress already have insurance coverage, so it doesn't affect them or their families.

They know this shit. They're trying to play the American people for stupid.

Try again assholes!!

(It sounds like the Republicans--not the Democrats--are the ones wavering!)

[PM Martin]

9. Obamacare has nothing to do with the debt ceiling.

The teaklan has hijacked the already kookie Republican party and is going to run everyone over the cliff.

[gordianot]

13. The bottom of the well for Republican stupid has not been found.

They simply do not understand numbers, voters, money, constituents, and time. They might understand money in their pocket.

[Botany]

17. Well at least they didn't have another hearing on Benghazi

3:48 PM and it looks like the shut down is a done deal.

[The Stranger]

18. Can we get something they don't like and have to say "no" to?

Why in the fuck are we sitting idle while they're trying to set us up to look like the bad guy?

[Mass]

19. If the rest of the provisions for Obamacare subsists, this is not much of a problem.

Given the level of exception already existing, there was not much of a mandate anyway. The penalty was too low for rich people and was only hurting those people at the limit. (Though the mandate is a Republican idea, so it is unclear why the GOP wants to ban a Republican idea, but clearly, this is a game for internal consumption. Boehner and Cantor are trying to save their leadership position (if you can call that leadership when you follow rather than lead).

The only problem is to know whether we will be in the same quandary for the debt ceiling. What will they ask?

[jeff47]

22. Well, if the Democrats agree to it because it's "not much of a problem"

Then the debt ceiling vote will include dismantling Obamacare.

If the Democrats don't agree to it, the shutdown will last a few days until a clean bill passes. Then a clean debt limit bill will pass, because the Republicans will have just been burned by the shutdown.

[Mass]

23. I do not favor passing the House bill, exactly for the reason you state.

This said, I am less optimistic than you that the current GOP will pass a clean debt limit bill because they have just been burned down. They do not learn.

[jeff47]

24. They seem to learn, and then forget a couple months later.

"Fortunately" the debt limit will fall into that window.

[Warren Stupidity]

29. Allowing the House to legislation via hostage taking is completely wrong.

[kiranon]

20. It's all a sick game - no pun intended. The Republicans

couldn't hide their smug grins and smirks as they put forth their new version of the CR. How disgusting. The House Republicans will rue the day they played this game on the American people. Hope they all lose in the next elections and shame will follow them for the rest of their days. There is no honor here.

[IrishMidget]

21. Yeah I'd say that the chances of avoiding a government shutdown at this point are basically null.

[Warren Stupidity]

25. No. just no. They can just stop trying to legislate via the debt ceiling.

[Old Navy]

26. Clean FUCKING resolution.

What part of is it impossible for the reptile-brains to understand?

[BlueStreak]

28. Just say "No". Don't reward bad behavior.

[blkmusclmachine]

30. Shut It Down! Let Them Die!

Sick.