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Kennah

(14,256 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:23 PM Feb 2012

Arizona police sergeant demoted over Obama photo on Facebook

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-28/ariz-officer-obama-facebook/53294478/1

USA Today

An Arizona police sergeant has been demoted and suspended for two weeks without pay for posting a photo of a bullet-riddled image of President Obama on Facebook.

Officials in the Phoenix suburb said Tuesday that Pat Shearer will be demoted to the rank of officer, which means a reduction in pay.

Shearer has 10 days to appeal. The 25-year veteran had been reassigned to administrative duties during the investigation.

The photo on Shearer's Facebook profile showed seven teenagers. Some were holding guns and one was holding what appeared to be a shot-up Obama T-shirt. The image was removed soon after it was posted.
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Arizona police sergeant demoted over Obama photo on Facebook (Original Post) Kennah Feb 2012 OP
When planning events, the Secret Service has much work Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #1
Some people have lost their jobs for a lot less. At will employment is legalized discrimination. nt patrice Feb 2012 #2
Well, it's not like he posed for nude pics of himself-- SunSeeker Feb 2012 #9
I've heard she's been in films too. Lasher Feb 2012 #16
What would possess a 25 year LEO veteran to post such a thing? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #3
You'd think even if he agrees with the sentiment Lex Feb 2012 #8
The meth lab raids must have fried his brain to a point where he has only 2 brain cells to rub anti-alec Feb 2012 #10
Spam deleted by Skinner (MIR Team) rabotaonlain Feb 2012 #23
It really depends on why he posted it. If he said, "Look what these fracking morons did - they need 24601 Feb 2012 #26
The douchebag should have been fired on the spot, and been required to end a long conversation madinmaryland Feb 2012 #4
In an ideal world he'd be looking at 25 to life in the nearest supermax 47of74 Feb 2012 #5
This "ideal world" you imply.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #27
WTF is going on in Arizona? Marie Marie Feb 2012 #6
IMO, It all started with this (depicted as an award winning political cartoon) Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #7
I think they have because they are hooked on fear.... midnight Feb 2012 #11
He should've been fired!! Obamacare Feb 2012 #12
I don't think he should have been fired, but if someone had done the same thing with a photo of Bush yurbud Feb 2012 #13
I don't think someone that stupid should have been hired in the first place Incitatus Feb 2012 #14
Actually, they won't hire if they score too high on the intelligence test. Sirveri Feb 2012 #19
I saw a few stories about that--they really need to revisit that assertion. MADem Feb 2012 #21
They don't want them thinking too much quakerboy Mar 2012 #31
Well, see, to me (and I am sure others) that'd be a feature--not a bug--in the system! MADem Mar 2012 #32
I would tend to think so as well quakerboy Mar 2012 #33
they should show recruits photos like that and see how they react yurbud Feb 2012 #24
Or they'd get praise for the mocumentary, "Death of a President." 24601 Feb 2012 #25
that got little or no praise here. It was a stupid idea not just because yurbud Mar 2012 #30
Surely you can cite to such an incident,yes? PavePusher Mar 2012 #28
K&R Tripod Feb 2012 #15
Hard to believe anyone could be that stupid davidthegnome Feb 2012 #17
Packing heat and The Wizard Feb 2012 #18
Suspended? He should have been fired. MADem Feb 2012 #20
Absolutely. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #29
K&R... stonecutter357 Feb 2012 #22

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. When planning events, the Secret Service has much work
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:34 PM
Feb 2012

as many in the ranks of local law "enforcement" are right wingers (an hostile to the elected President).

Police must be held to higher standards. They cannot have the power without the responsibility.
Herr Shearer needs to be fired.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. Some people have lost their jobs for a lot less. At will employment is legalized discrimination. nt
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:36 PM
Feb 2012

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
9. Well, it's not like he posed for nude pics of himself--
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:47 AM
Feb 2012

Like this terrible female officer, who got immediately fired: http://www.policeone.com/legal/articles/2304790-Posing-performing-and-conduct-unbecoming/


You know, because that's so much more harmful than glorifying assassination of our President.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
8. You'd think even if he agrees with the sentiment
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:29 AM
Feb 2012

of the picture, he'd have enough brain cells to realize that it would be a big no-no, given what he does for a living.

Fox News keeps these folks thinking that everyone agrees with them, I guess.


 

anti-alec

(420 posts)
10. The meth lab raids must have fried his brain to a point where he has only 2 brain cells to rub
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:48 AM
Feb 2012

together......

Yeah, time to fire his sorry ass. Demotion won't do any good.

Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #3)

24601

(3,959 posts)
26. It really depends on why he posted it. If he said, "Look what these fracking morons did - they need
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:28 PM
Feb 2012

a long talk with the Secret Service", then no problem.

But if it implied agreement, or the appearance of agreement, then any officer posting that about any president, or non-president for that matter, should be up on charges of bringing discredit on his/her department.

And when it involves any Secret Service protectee, that's just stuck on stupid!

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
4. The douchebag should have been fired on the spot, and been required to end a long conversation
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:43 PM
Feb 2012

with the Secret Service.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
27. This "ideal world" you imply....
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:20 PM
Mar 2012

sounds a lot like North Korea/Orwell's 1984.

No, thank you. Distasteful as this may be, decending to totalitarianism is not the answer.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
6. WTF is going on in Arizona?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:25 AM
Feb 2012

Seems like a beautiful state with many good people but have all the right wing crazies taken over or what?

 

Obamacare

(277 posts)
12. He should've been fired!!
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:21 AM
Feb 2012

A 25yr vet, what a fucking loser, he must lead a miserable life to do such a thing.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
13. I don't think he should have been fired, but if someone had done the same thing with a photo of Bush
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:26 AM
Feb 2012

they would be called al Qaeda & be hanging by their scrotum in a kennel in Gitmo within an hour of posting that pic.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
14. I don't think someone that stupid should have been hired in the first place
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:08 AM
Feb 2012

I guess there's a lack of intelligence/judgment screening.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
19. Actually, they won't hire if they score too high on the intelligence test.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 06:38 AM
Feb 2012

Seriously, some guy got turned down for a LEO job because of that and took his department to court over it.

They said it was because the super intelligent would 'get bored'.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. I saw a few stories about that--they really need to revisit that assertion.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:50 AM
Feb 2012

Sometimes, the "super intelligent" are not always the "super motivated." They have a right to a comfort zone as much as anyone else. I wish we'd start hiring smarter police officers--there are too many dumbasses in blue out there. The good ones have to take the heat for those idiots.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
31. They don't want them thinking too much
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
Mar 2012

If a LEO starts thinking too much, they might not feel so good about some of the laws they are asked to enforce. They might not want to cover up the actions of someone like Tony Bologna. They might even stand with a protest, or refuse to jail people purely based on skin color or unfounded assertions. They might even feel bad about some things. And thats bad for business.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. Well, see, to me (and I am sure others) that'd be a feature--not a bug--in the system!
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:42 PM
Mar 2012

I like brains behind decisions--it generally makes them better ones.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
33. I would tend to think so as well
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:16 PM
Mar 2012

However, people who think that way do not appear to be running the system, nor holding the power in any major city, state, or federal government position.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. they should show recruits photos like that and see how they react
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:23 PM
Feb 2012

that would be a pretty good indication of how they want to deal with people they disagree with and/or aren't like them.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
30. that got little or no praise here. It was a stupid idea not just because
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:36 PM
Mar 2012

it is morally wrong, but Bush was clearly the puppet of larger interests, and it's doubtful Cheney would have done the job any differently (except maybe worse).

Progressives actually think beyond the knee jerk reactions of the right. I wonder if the nitwits who made that target stopped to think, ''Hey, if we did kill him, would we be happier with Biden as president?'' or ''This won't change the ideological trends in America?''

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
28. Surely you can cite to such an incident,yes?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:22 PM
Mar 2012

There's plenty of stuff to legitimately criticize without resorting to invention and hyperbole.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
17. Hard to believe anyone could be that stupid
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 05:45 AM
Feb 2012

He's lucky he doesn't work in my area, I'm almost 100% positive he would've been fired for sheer stupidity. Seriously, what kind of moron posts that crap on facebook?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. Suspended? He should have been fired.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:48 AM
Feb 2012

It's not a First Amendment issue--it's an issue of simple, basic judgment. He is --and should be WAS--a law enforcement officer, and thus should be held to a higher standard.

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