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underpants

(182,603 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:31 AM Nov 2013

Romney: Obama's 'dishonesty' on health care puts second term in peril

Source: NBC News

Last year’s losing Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said on Sunday that President Barack Obama’s "fundamental dishonesty" on the Affordable Care Act has “put in peril the whole foundation of his second term.”

Appearing on NBC's Meet the Press, Romney added that what “has really undermined the president's credibility in the hearts of the American people is that he went out, as a centerpiece of his campaign and as a centerpiece of Obamacare over the last several years, saying time and time again that fundamental to his plan was the right people would have to keep their insurance plan, and he knew that was not the case....”

Hammering that argument again, Romney said Obama’s handling of Obamacare’s promises “has undermined the foundation of his second term – I think it is rotting it away.”

Romney said Massachusetts “teaches some important lessons some states are not going to want to follow.”


Read more: http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/03/21295983-romney-obamas-dishonesty-on-health-care-puts-second-term-in-peril?chromedomain=nbcpolitics&lite



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Romney: Obama's 'dishonesty' on health care puts second term in peril (Original Post) underpants Nov 2013 OP
This loser is so sore. Enjoy obscurity, dickbag. TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #1
LOL underpants Nov 2013 #2
If anything keeps our memory of him alive, it'll be "Corporations are people, my friend." Towlie Nov 2013 #17
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #28
LOL. I wonder if when it becomes a success he will then credit Obama's JaneyVee Nov 2013 #40
That pacifier is priceless BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #3
The new GOP talking point... AlbertCat Nov 2013 #4
Romney's dishonesty in general put his first term in peril. olddad56 Nov 2013 #5
+1 Gore1FL Nov 2013 #27
Oh Mittens, YOU are rotting away! mountain grammy Nov 2013 #6
Obama thought the governors cared enough about their people to expand Medicaid..w/gov help of course judesedit Nov 2013 #7
^ THIS ^ mac56 Nov 2013 #14
+1,000,000! Surya Gayatri Nov 2013 #54
The ACA is law now. Laelth Nov 2013 #8
Ann must be telling him he can still be President livetohike Nov 2013 #9
I know! Obama might not get a third term right Mitt Rommel? MillennialDem Nov 2013 #10
Yeah right. OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2013 #11
Shut the fuck up, Crook. SoapBox Nov 2013 #12
yes well...Obama has Epiphany4z Nov 2013 #13
Wow davidthegnome Nov 2013 #15
Lessons from the Fall of RomneyCare Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #16
Romney sounds concerned. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #18
Mitt the Press n/t alp227 Nov 2013 #19
Mittens, where are those tax returns??? Paulie Nov 2013 #20
Be fair now. There aren't any because he didn't pay any for 10 years. nt DRoseDARs Nov 2013 #33
Actually, there are tax returns jmowreader Nov 2013 #45
Mitt who? Bonhomme Richard Nov 2013 #21
Exactly, who is this Romney guy? Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #24
Romney still thinks he might win the 2012 election? Democat Nov 2013 #22
From someone who would constantly deceive--Romney Lies all in one post. . . Stargleamer Nov 2013 #23
.......... trusty elf Nov 2013 #30
Romney who? Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #25
That is EXACTLY what I was going to. sendero Nov 2013 #44
sore loser heather blossom Nov 2013 #26
HEY WILLARD! YOU LOST, SO STFU!!!!!! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #29
Is thsi the same wisdom,,, Cryptoad Nov 2013 #31
Oh, FFS, Willard..... trusty elf Nov 2013 #32
niiiiice wordpix Nov 2013 #48
LOSER...... madrchsod Nov 2013 #34
Romney sews illegitimacy everywhere he goes bucolic_frolic Nov 2013 #35
Oh, that is rich. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #36
Obama put Romney's chances of a first term in peril. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2013 #37
This Is All Just So Much Crap DallasNE Nov 2013 #38
Presidential albino65 Nov 2013 #39
Extremely well said, albino. And a belated welcome to DU. Surya Gayatri Nov 2013 #55
Oh dear... Turbineguy Nov 2013 #41
And just why . . . Brigid Nov 2013 #42
He still doesn't get it .. you lost STFU .. no one cares .. go away. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #43
Lemme guess: No one challenged Robme on his outright lies, right? Riiight!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #46
Mittens undermined the foundation of this nation when he spent his career evading taxes wordpix Nov 2013 #47
In His BillyRibs Nov 2013 #49
what a joke pothos Nov 2013 #50
Agree, the media is the problem mdbl Nov 2013 #53
Well to be fair Romney DID invent Obamacare Rstrstx Nov 2013 #51
Coming from the ZERO-TERM president, who invented Obamacare (and it's working)... truthisfreedom Nov 2013 #52

Towlie

(5,318 posts)
17. If anything keeps our memory of him alive, it'll be "Corporations are people, my friend."
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:10 PM
Nov 2013

There's the quote that should be engraved on his tombstone.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
4. The new GOP talking point...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:46 AM
Nov 2013

Y'see, it so very obvious the GOP has been lying about the ACA so consistently....



.... that they are trying to plant a meme of "See, the Dems lied about it too!" The ol' "well they did it too" ploy.

Not gonna stick.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
7. Obama thought the governors cared enough about their people to expand Medicaid..w/gov help of course
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:52 AM
Nov 2013

but as in everything he tries to do, the GOP tries to screw up and does. After all...it's all rethug run states that are fighting it...even though they have most that need it.

And companies looking for really top shelf employees are going to give BETTER offers to get and keep them.

It's companies owned by the greedy that are dropping the employee's insurance. (Hope they're making it up to their people in pay. Somehow doubt it. ) Most people will be successful in getting a satisfactory policy that they will be plenty happy with. Probably better than their last. And as in anything new, the program will have to be tweeked for years. Who cares? It's a start.

By the way, some companies are actually making their employees full time, so they CAN give them medical benefits. So there.

The rw knows the ACA will be great. They're scared to death, gasping for air.

We've been waiting for healthcare for 100 years or so. We can wait another month.
Woohoo!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. The ACA is law now.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:55 AM
Nov 2013

And President Obama is not running for re-election. Impeachment won't work, so Romney and his pals are just squealing in the wind. Nothing they can do about it now, and they know it.

Just blowing hot air ... that's all they've got left.

-Laelth

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,031 posts)
11. Yeah right.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:00 PM
Nov 2013


When has a politician's half truth ever imperil them selves.
They imperil the masses not them selves.

Epiphany4z

(2,234 posts)
13. yes well...Obama has
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:03 PM
Nov 2013

a second term to put in peril...while Romney??????...doesn't even have a first term...just sayin...

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
15. Wow
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:05 PM
Nov 2013

It's been a while since I read anything about what Romney had to say. Fundamental dishonesty... hmm, you mean like the sort that destroyed your campaign, Mr. Romney? You know... the bit about you referring to so many Americans as takers, waiting for handouts. Not at all like you politicians that spend... what is it, 15, 20, 30 hours a week fundraising? Essentially, begging people for money for political purposes. At a dinner that charged fifty thousand dollars a plate, you had the audacity to rant about OTHER people being "takers". That's kind of ridiculous Sir.

No, this whole system of government is rotting away, and perhaps it's time to start cutting dead wood... like you, Mr. Romney.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
16. Lessons from the Fall of RomneyCare
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:06 PM
Nov 2013

A Double Failure

There's good reason for his change of position. The Massachusetts plan was supposed to accomplish two things — achieve universal health insurance coverage while controlling costs. As Romney wrote in the Wall Street Journal, "Every uninsured citizen in Massachusetts will soon have affordable health insurance and the costs of health care will be reduced." In reality, the plan has done neither.

Perhaps the most publicized aspect of the Massachusetts reform is its mandate that every resident have health insurance, whether provided by an employer or the government or purchased individually. "I like mandates," Romney said during a debate in New Hampshire. "The mandate works." But did it?

http://www.cato.org/policy-report/januaryfebruary-2008/lessons-fall-romneycare

Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Tom Delay the Bugman!!! Why don't you "Dickbag" loosers just fade away into obscurity, with some assembalance of dignity.

Anyone else care to add to list of cockroachs that will not let go of the spotlight?

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
45. Actually, there are tax returns
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:47 PM
Nov 2013

You have to file a return with the federal government explaining why you made $50 million and didn't give any of it to Uncle Sam; otherwise you wind up like Wesley Snipes or Willie Nelson.

It's the optics of the thing that prevents Willard from releasing his tax returns.

heather blossom

(174 posts)
26. sore loser
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:08 PM
Nov 2013

Why is he given a forum on Meet the Press. Just more of the gotcha politics. Why not a thoughtful insightful discussion instead of this sore loser foaming at the mouth. He still can't accept that he lost.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
35. Romney sews illegitimacy everywhere he goes
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:24 PM
Nov 2013

they never give it up, do they?

Mitt LOST because his platform was a LOSER

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
36. Oh, that is rich.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:38 PM
Nov 2013

And it comes from Lil' Lying Richie Rich who paid no taxes for a decade and his his returns.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
38. This Is All Just So Much Crap
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:17 PM
Nov 2013

At my last employer where I retired from the insurance plans were changed 4 times in the 11 years I was there. Annually employees are given an option on level and type of coverage. The coverage can even change mid-year when events like marriage, divorce, birth of child or loss of a loved one occur. This year American just have more options than usual. In about 2% of cases the old coverage no longer is offered so it will be necessary for these people to go on the exchanges for a replacement. In most, but not all cases, the coverage will be better AND the cost will be lower after government subsidies are factored in. Yes, there is more upheaval than occurs in a normal year but that is always the case with major new programs. Next week I will be looking into whether the exchange might be a better option for my 24 year old daughter's insurance as I am pretty sure I can save money going that route -- perhaps as much as $150 a month.

 

albino65

(484 posts)
39. Presidential
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:50 PM
Nov 2013

I think President Obama cares less about his legacy than he does about providing leadership. He is doing exactly what we elected him to do. I cannot stand that every day there is a new sound bite to which they expect a reaction. The main stream media has been infiltrated by right wingers and are slowly but surely changing the dialogue. You can see it everywhere. They are jumping all over every glitch in the Affordable Heathcare Act roll out to build negativism for the off year elections and 2014. 60 Minutes used to be a thoughtful news show that would stimulate discussion. Now they are no more than a mouthpiece for the Koch brothers.

AND WHY ARE THEY STILL GIVING THAT ASSHOLE ROMNEY A PLATFORM???

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
55. Extremely well said, albino. And a belated welcome to DU.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 08:40 AM
Nov 2013

I see you joined around election time last year, but haven't been very active. Welcome back! We need to hear more from you...

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
47. Mittens undermined the foundation of this nation when he spent his career evading taxes
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:32 PM
Nov 2013

and helping others do same.

I don't listen to one thing this asshat says.

pothos

(154 posts)
50. what a joke
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 04:06 AM
Nov 2013

but the biggest joke is that these hangers-on are still given credence by the media... newt gingrich.. sarah palin..the entire visible leadership of the republican party is a bunch of has-beens and losers.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
53. Agree, the media is the problem
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:38 AM
Nov 2013

The so-called news media, of couse, is still having fun being divisive. If Rmoney had some coding fixes for the website, I could see talking with him. I turned to NBC for news and saw David Gregory talking to Mitt Money. Gregory's big ploy to wooo some dumb fox viewers won't work. What he did do, however, was cause me to turn off NBC.

truthisfreedom

(23,139 posts)
52. Coming from the ZERO-TERM president, who invented Obamacare (and it's working)...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 04:19 AM
Nov 2013

obviously there's no need for us to taste it because we know it's purely bitter.

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