CIA Made Doctors Torture Suspected Terrorists After 9/11, Taskforce Finds
Source: the guardian
Doctors and psychologists working for the US military violated the ethical codes of their profession under instruction from the defence department and the CIA to become involved in the torture and degrading treatment of suspected terrorists, an investigation has concluded.
The report of the Taskforce on Preserving Medical Professionalism in National Security Detention Centres concludes that after 9/11, health professionals working with the military and intelligence services "designed and participated in cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment and torture of detainees". Medical professionals were in effect told that their ethical mantra "first do no harm" did not apply, because they were not treating people who were ill.
The report lays blame primarily on the defence department (DoD) and the CIA, which required their healthcare staff to put aside any scruples in the interests of intelligence gathering and security practices that caused severe harm to detainees, from waterboarding to sleep deprivation and force-feeding.
The two-year review by the 19-member taskforce, Ethics Abandoned: Medical Professionalism and Detainee Abuse in the War on Terror, supported by the Institute on Medicine as a Profession (IMAP) and the Open Society Foundations, says that the DoD termed those involved in interrogation "safety officers" rather than doctors. Doctors and nurses were required to participate in the force-feeding of prisoners on hunger strike, against the rules of the World Medical Association and the American Medical Association. Doctors and psychologists working for the DoD were required to breach patient confidentiality and share what they knew of the prisoner's physical and psychological condition with interrogators and were used as interrogators themselves. They also failed to comply with recommendations from the army surgeon general on reporting abuse of detainees...
An al-Qaida detainee at Guantanamo Bay in 2002: the DoD has taken steps to address concerns over practices at the prison in recent years
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/cia-doctors-torture-suspected-terrorists-9-11
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)They could have said no. It would have been the ethical thing to do.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...following the chain of command, wherein does the ultimate culpability lie?
I'm not excusing the medical folks here; I'm only making sure that the perpetrators do not escape the scrutiny they are due. Who deserves the lion's share of culpability -- the givers or the followers of illegal orders?
Kelvin Mace
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We established that at Nuremberg.
These people get no slack from me and should be prosecuted along with their superiors for war crimes.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)Oftentimes it's forgotten that those who issue such orders are at the top of the food chain; and regardless of whether or not their first string players follow their dictates, they will always find the people necessary to do their dirty work.
A mere low level worker with two kids in college and an inflated mortgage is (at least to me) slightly less culpable than the bosses. So if all were convicted of war crimes, I'd expect the bosses to serve somewhat harsher sentences.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)If these doctors had REFUSED from the outset and declared the order illegal, they probably would have been court martialed which would have brought this out in the open WAY sooner and stopped it. Imagine what would have happened if the doctors had refused en masse to participate and declared the order illegal. Perhaps the torture would not have happened once they raised the spectre of war crimes.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)It seems more likely to me however that, given the corrupted nature of the MSM, no one would have found out if the doctors had resigned in solidarity against their orders. And if their actions did come to light -- the facts of the situation would distorted to conform with the Cheney/Bush agenda, and the doctors would have been vilified as traitors.
avebury
(10,952 posts)country, blame never rolls up to the highest level involved in an incident. Instead it remains with the lowest level perpetrators. Things might be a whole lot different in the US if all people were actually held accountable for their actions and/or decisions.
The Stranger
(11,297 posts)If they violated professional codes, yank every fucking one of their licenses and ban them from ever practicing again. Ever.
Do this all up and down the chain of command.
Then, look to see what laws have been violated, in addition to violating professional codes.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)Not only have we not pursued justice for war crimes committed, but we have enabled those very same criminals by advancing their careers.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)They should have refused.
onyourleft
(726 posts)This was my first thought on reading the headline.
xocet
(3,871 posts)New York, NY An independent panel of military, ethics, medical, public health, and legal experts today charged that U.S. military and intelligence agencies directed doctors and psychologists working in U.S. military detention centers to violate standard ethical principles and medical standards to avoid infliction of harm. The Task Force on Preserving Medical Professionalism in National Security Detention Centers (see attached) concludes that since September 11, 2001, the Department of Defense (DoD) and CIA improperly demanded that U.S. military and intelligence agency health professionals collaborate in intelligence gathering and security practices in a way that inflicted severe harm on detainees in U.S. custody.
These practices included designing, participating in, and enabling torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of detainees, according to the report. Although the DoD has taken steps to address some of these practices in recent years, including instituting a committee to review medical ethics concerns at Guantanamo Bay Prison, the Task Force says the changed roles for health professionals and anemic ethical standards adopted within the military remain in place.
The American public has a right to know that the covenant with its physicians to follow professional ethical expectations is firm regardless of where they serve, said Task Force member Dr. Gerald Thomson, Professor of Medicine Emeritus at Columbia University. Its clear that in the name of national security the military trumped that covenant, and physicians were transformed into agents of the military and performed acts that were contrary to medical ethics and practice. We have a responsibility to make sure this never happens again.
The Task Force report, supported by the Institute on Medicine as a Profession and the Open Society Foundations, calls on the DoD and CIA to follow medical professional standards of conduct to enable doctors and psychologists to adhere to their ethical principles so that in the future they be used to heal, not injure, detainees they encounter. The Task Force also urges professional medical associations and the American Psychological Association to strengthen ethical standards related to interrogation and detention of detainees.
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http://www.imapny.org/medicine_as_a_profession/interrogationtorture-and-dual-loyalty
The report is here: http://www.imapny.org/File%20Library/Documents/IMAP-EthicsTextFinal2.pdf
woodsprite
(11,911 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)"I was only following orders" was declared not a viable one with the Nuremberg trials.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)http://www.alternet.org/story/75081/how_teenage_rebellion_has_become_a_mental_illness
Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)residen within the higher levels of the US Government, then of course they are not held culpable for their actions.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)The early OSS/CIA supposedly adopted wholesale the "guidebook" on interrogation techniques from research left behind by the defeated Nazi Germany...They were meticulous record-keepers...
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)dougolat
(716 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... "we demand an investigation!" What the hay did the "Task Force" just say they are accusing physicians/psychiatrists of? Like teats on a boar hog, the Task Force is useless. Hell's bells, tell us something we DON'T know! If we're so corrupt we can't hold anyone who's perpetrating high crimes and misdemeanors accountable in this "government", can the medical authorities at least hold the doctors accountable for their breach of the Hippocratic Oath? Where does it say that they are permitted to disregard the oath if participating in torturing POWs during a war? Strip their right to practice medicine in the USA! Abolish their private practices and throw throw their asses in jail so they can't practice as mercenaries! Task forces, hundreds of thousands of protesters in the streets of America and millions abroad... well Hell, the whole damn electorate, have been and continue to be disregarded as "focus groups."
This isn't a "New World Order." It's an "Old World of total DysOrder!
drynberg
(1,648 posts)Those Dr.s without principal enough to refuse, but a whole lot worse for their victims. Shame on their green asses. This is so sad, but I'm glad the truth is rising to the surface.
Titonwan
(785 posts)It hasn't. B. Obama has no more power over the intel community than Clinton or Carter. Yes Martha, the political elite have never had a job with the government- other than rotating straight back out into the defense industry (or big pharma, insurance, banking, Wall St. etc).
Hopefully Mr. Snowden will reveal such corruption and illegality.
Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)Torturers and whores who commit perjury for a living, what a wonderful model for a professional org like the AMA.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)That's why this shit can't be fixed with one more law, one more committee. One more election. One more judicial appointment. Because after you've done all that, the stink is still inside of it all waiting to corrupt anew.
If we are to be free of it, it must be abandoned and left to shrivel and die.
- Without us and our blood, it doesn't exist.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, Indi Guy.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)I bet those bombed out Iraqui's that made it through are a little disgruntled as well.