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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 02:34 PM Nov 2013

NYSE’s Next Owner Says Small U.S. Investors Get Ripped Off

Source: Bloomberg

The head of IntercontinentalExchange Inc., which is about to own the New York Stock Exchange, said U.S. equity markets are flawed because sophisticated traders are taking advantage of small investors.

A decade of regulatory and technological changes have fragmented trading across more than 50 markets and given rise to firms that use computerized algorithms to trade far faster than humans, with executions measured in less than a thousandth of a second. Also, almost 40 percent of volume takes place on private platforms, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

That means investors saving money to send their kids to college or to buy a home can be taken advantage of by traders who possess more information, ICE Chief Executive Officer Jeff Sprecher told analysts today during a conference call.

Sophisticated firms are “incented to take advantage of the people that are the weakest on the day they have to the trade, and I think that that is fundamentally wrong,” Sprecher said. “People that have built a business around that are destined to ultimately fail. I don’t think they are sustainable, and increasingly when I go talk to friends and when I listen to people that are not involved specifically in what we do, there is a sense that things aren’t fair.”


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NYSE’s Next Owner Says Small U.S. Investors Get Ripped Off (Original Post) Redfairen Nov 2013 OP
This is news? hobbit709 Nov 2013 #1
absolutely hollysmom Nov 2013 #2
No duh. closeupready Nov 2013 #3
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2013 #4
Another duh. That's their business model. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #5
True. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #6
Ermagehrd, what a surprise! (NOT) Myrina Nov 2013 #7
In other news, water is wet meow2u3 Nov 2013 #8
You beat me to it... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2013 #9
Short sellers manipulate the market as well. They should all be beaten. 7962 Nov 2013 #10
Even the tiniest transaction tax would drive a stake through the heart of high-speed trading. Jerry442 Nov 2013 #11
If you don't know the difference between investing OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2013 #12
Savvy. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #13

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
2. absolutely
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 02:39 PM
Nov 2013

so many ways, to rip people off. I just won't play anymore. There is so much insider trading that gets ignored, it makes your head spin.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
4. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 02:41 PM
Nov 2013

Disclaimer: this is not a solicitation to buy or sell stocks or mutual funds.

Advice from the index-fund mastermind
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/financial-literacy/advice-from-the-index-fund-mastermind-1.aspx

investing
Advice from the index-fund mastermind
By Cheryl Allebrand • Bankrate.com

Interview: John C. Bogle

If you can't beat the market, be the market: That's the logic behind index funds. More than 30 years ago, John Bogle set up shop to help investors capture market returns at minimal cost. He had realized a quarter-century earlier that complex mutual fund investing strategies don't consistently outperform market returns.


John Bogle on the Rise of Index Funds
http://live.wsj.com/video/john-bogle-on-the-rise-of-index-funds/48AE2CE7-60D5-42C6-A1E4-78560980B376.html#!48AE2CE7-60D5-42C6-A1E4-78560980B376
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
10. Short sellers manipulate the market as well. They should all be beaten.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:08 PM
Nov 2013

If you think a stock is going to drop in price, then buy "put" options. What I see on a daily basis is ridiculous. Usually they do it with lower volume stocks. Makes it very easy to push down a price without actually selling a lot of shares. Then you slowly cover, and there's your profit.
Should be outlawed.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
11. Even the tiniest transaction tax would drive a stake through the heart of high-speed trading.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:13 PM
Nov 2013

Will never happen though, for exactly that reason.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,031 posts)
12. If you don't know the difference between investing
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

and gambling, you should probably do some reading before "investing" in the sock market.

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