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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:18 PM Nov 2013

Breaking: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes ENDA

Source: The New Civil Rights Movement

In an historic vote not taken since 1996, the U.S. Senate just voted on and passed ENDA, the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. Only a simple majority of “ayes” were needed to pass the bill.

....

Republicans voting for the bill included Senators McCain, Flake, Toomey, Portman, Hatch, Ayotte, Murkowski, and Collins.

Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were among those voting no.

Just after noon today, Senators defeated the Toomey Amendment, which would have vastly increased the number and types of businesses exempt from ENDA, greatly weakening the legislation. That vote was 55-43.

Read more: http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/breaking-in-historic-vote-senate-passes-enda/politics/2013/11/07/78279#.Unvny424n7A



Historic moment as voting continues. Now at 64-32. Bill is passed this minute (on edit as I type).

***** LIVE Senate debate on ENDA *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023995824
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Breaking: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes ENDA (Original Post) Coyotl Nov 2013 OP
Senate Approves ENDA on Initial Vote William769 Nov 2013 #1
Good news but will it end in the House katmondoo Nov 2013 #8
What would happen if the House tacked the RTW amendment onto it & passed it? Myrina Nov 2013 #10
Yup. KamaAina Nov 2013 #15
Can the Senate reject the Amendment or Amended version? Myrina Nov 2013 #17
Conference Committee is likely. Coyotl Nov 2013 #19
I don't think so. William769 Nov 2013 #11
I've never understood, how you can legislate to discriminate against Americans? SoapBox Nov 2013 #9
No argument from me. William769 Nov 2013 #12
Only twice a day! Shame on you! bitchkitty Nov 2013 #45
Bill - help me understand Ruby the Liberal Nov 2013 #36
ENDA William769 Nov 2013 #37
Yeah, it helps. Ruby the Liberal Nov 2013 #39
so does it have religion discrimination against gays as a poison pill item? nt msongs Nov 2013 #2
Read post #1. nt William769 Nov 2013 #3
well it says that Tomey wanted to expand the religious exemptions .. so there are those in place. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #47
The amendment that would have allowed any business getting a church flyer to discriminate failed. Coyotl Nov 2013 #6
+1 pinto Nov 2013 #4
"Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were among those voting no." SoapBox Nov 2013 #5
MSNBC: ‘Let the bells of freedom ring’—Senate passes ENDA Coyotl Nov 2013 #7
I read that minority leader was trying to attach Union busting legislation to the bill. Lobo27 Nov 2013 #13
Your link to that please. Coyotl Nov 2013 #14
Video!!! Lobo27 Nov 2013 #16
Good video. Yeah, that did not happen. This clown (McConnell) is irrelevant. Coyotl Nov 2013 #20
No. It did not even made it to the floor. Only Toomey's amendment was voted upon and rejected. Mass Nov 2013 #18
to bad the house will not have a chance beachbum bob Nov 2013 #21
Amazing both of my (Arizona) Senators voted yes dbackjon Nov 2013 #22
Yeh, I was shocked! n Zorra Nov 2013 #43
K&R BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #23
K&R Peacetrain Nov 2013 #24
Whoopee!! Harry Monroe Nov 2013 #25
Roll call LIST, link below Tx4obama Nov 2013 #26
Thanks. I was going to post this too, but got distracted. Here are the NAYs: Coyotl Nov 2013 #27
And... Not Voting - 4 Tx4obama Nov 2013 #28
Casey was in his wife's hospital room Recursion Nov 2013 #44
Excellent news! Maedhros Nov 2013 #29
Yeah, great news - but mostly likely it will die in The House. n/t Tx4obama Nov 2013 #31
Agreed. However, getting the bill passed in the Senate is a significant step forward. Maedhros Nov 2013 #33
The SWORMs can alienate their non-members even more. Coyotl Nov 2013 #38
Statement by President Obama on Senate Passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013 Tx4obama Nov 2013 #30
And the teaparty House will take glee in shutting it down and seeing to it it goes no further. eom Purveyor Nov 2013 #32
Not even noted on Fox News website. Anywhere. Faygo Kid Nov 2013 #34
But will it pass the House - probably not. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2013 #35
It is a shame that the Senate did all this work davidpdx Nov 2013 #40
I still think this will come up for a vote in the House. Coyotl Nov 2013 #41
I don't know davidpdx Nov 2013 #42
Great news, but... ReRe Nov 2013 #46
That would be a beautiful thing! YOHABLO Nov 2013 #48
Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were among those voting no. Beacool Nov 2013 #49

William769

(55,144 posts)
1. Senate Approves ENDA on Initial Vote
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:22 PM
Nov 2013

In a procedural vote intended to conclude debate, the Senate voted in favor of the federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would prohibit employers from firing, refusing to hire, or declining to promote a worker simply because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

A bipartisan coalition of 64 senators voted to move ENDA forward, clearing the way for an affirmative final vote, expected to occur around 1:45 p.m. Eastern today. 33 Republican Senators cast "no" votes against the bill.

All 55 Senate Democrats voted to move the bill forward, as did nine Republicans, including a surprise "aye" vote from Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

As debate came to a close Thursday afternoon, senators voted down an amendment from Pennsylvania Republican Pat Toomey that would have expanded the number of groups and individuals who could discriminate against LGBT people based on religious beliefs failed by a vote of 43-55.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/11/07/breaking-senate-approves-enda-initial-vote

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
10. What would happen if the House tacked the RTW amendment onto it & passed it?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:41 PM
Nov 2013

Would it have to go back to the Senate because of the amendment?

Thx.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
17. Can the Senate reject the Amendment or Amended version?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:49 PM
Nov 2013

This is NOT making me feel all warm & fuzzy.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. Conference Committee is likely.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:59 PM
Nov 2013

If they amend in a manner favorable, Senate could pass that version. Then it would go to Obama for signing into law.

William769

(55,144 posts)
11. I don't think so.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:41 PM
Nov 2013

Te republicans are over a barrel right now and are walking in the desert. when it comes to 2016 they need to tread carefully & they know it.

Read this. http://www.washingtonblade.com/2013/11/06/reid-confident-endas-chances-senate/

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. I've never understood, how you can legislate to discriminate against Americans?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:35 PM
Nov 2013

"...senators voted down an amendment from Pennsylvania Republican Pat Toomey that would have expanded the number of groups and individuals who could discriminate against LGBT people based on religious beliefs failed by a vote of 43-55." Excellent!

Let's see...I have a partner of 30 years...he runs a business we own...I returned to work for my employer of 28 years...we take care of my 92 (almost 93!) year old Mom, in our home...we walk the dog twice a day!...we pay all taxes that show up on our paychecks as well as our property taxes and sales taxes...

And these TeaPukeGarbageBagger types want me to be fired and tossed from our house (which we own).

Explain THAT to all of America, in a nationwide broadcast on all channels! Let's hear it!

ya...right.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
36. Bill - help me understand
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:50 PM
Nov 2013

Does this make LGBT a true protected class, or is this just employment discrimination?

William769

(55,144 posts)
37. ENDA
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:02 PM
Nov 2013

The Employment Non-Discrimination Act is legislation proposed in the United States Congress that would prohibit discrimination in hiring and employment on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity by civilian, nonreligious employers with at least 15 employees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENDA

I am by no means a expert on the subject, but to me it just deals with employment discrimination.

I hope this helps.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
39. Yeah, it helps.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:24 PM
Nov 2013

Just not what I wanted to hear. Protected class filters through to housing, banking, and a gazillion other segments of society.

Baby steps, I guess. Meh.

back

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
47. well it says that Tomey wanted to expand the religious exemptions .. so there are those in place.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 10:19 PM
Nov 2013

I gather that means any religious institution has the right to ask about sexual orientation, and fire someone because they are gay, bi, trans etc. Most importantly are the many Hospitals that are religiously affiliated such as the Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodists, Baptists and Jewish Hospitals .. many of which are anti-homosexuality, but are anti-abortion as well. Now these hospitals are partially funded by tax payer money .. so how can this stand? In any case, I don't think it will make it through the House .. not with these right-wing wackO's. I say stick a finger to their noses and say: oh no you don't .. you will not discriminate .. or we cut your ass off.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
6. The amendment that would have allowed any business getting a church flyer to discriminate failed.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:31 PM
Nov 2013

It was a piece of total crap as written lacking a definition of the key term religious affiliation.

The version that passed does allow religious organizations to follow their beliefs. This means that Baptists won't be forced to hire gay preachers, etc., but noone engaged in commerce will have any exclusion.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
5. "Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were among those voting no."
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

WELL of course they did! Why would we expect anything different...they just LOVE to discriminate against Americans!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. MSNBC: ‘Let the bells of freedom ring’—Senate passes ENDA
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:35 PM
Nov 2013
‘Let the bells of freedom ring’—Senate passes ENDA
By Emma Margolin - 11/07/13 - http://www.msnbc.com/news-nation/let-the-bells-freedom-ring

Senate lawmakers on Thursday passed a bill banning workplace discrimination against LGBT individuals in a historic, albeit nominal, victory four decades in the making.

The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) passed its final vote in the full Senate 64-32, just three days after its first since 1996, when a similar measure failed but just one vote. The full Senate would not vote again on a workplace protection bill for gays and lesbians until this past Monday, when lawmakers voted to begin debate. It was 1974 when Congress first saw a bill of this kind.

Signs of the measure becoming law were stunted earlier in the week, however, when Speaker John Boehner voiced his opposition on the grounds that it would cost small business and create “frivolous litigation.”

Despite there being little chance of seeing an ENDA vote before the GOP-controlled House, Senate leaders still championed the progress and laid out arguments for Republican opponents to change course.

“Let the bells of freedom ring,” said Sen. Jeff Merkley, who along with Republican Sen. Mark Kirk introduced the legislation ........

Lobo27

(753 posts)
13. I read that minority leader was trying to attach Union busting legislation to the bill.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:43 PM
Nov 2013

Anyone know if any of that made it through, or was that simply the Toomey thing.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
21. to bad the house will not have a chance
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:16 PM
Nov 2013

to vote on it....boehner still appeases his fringe. Another issue for 2014 election.

Harry Monroe

(2,935 posts)
25. Whoopee!!
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:48 PM
Nov 2013

Now on to the House, where they will kill it. The old familiar pattern. Nothing will change, nothing. Excuse me for not expressing my enthusiasm here.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
27. Thanks. I was going to post this too, but got distracted. Here are the NAYs:
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

NAYs ---32
Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fischer (R-NE)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
29. Excellent news!
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:15 PM
Nov 2013

I canvassed door-to-door for ENDA and the Ryan White Care Act reauthorization in 1996. It's amazing that, seventeen years later, this battle is still having to be fought.

More fighting to be done, apparently.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
33. Agreed. However, getting the bill passed in the Senate is a significant step forward.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:10 PM
Nov 2013

As I said, there is more fighting to be done. RW culture warriors don't go down easy, even when their cause is lost.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
30. Statement by President Obama on Senate Passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Nov 2013

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
November 07, 2013

Statement by the President on Senate Passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013

For more than two centuries, the story of our nation has been the story of more citizens realizing the rights and freedoms that are our birthright as Americans. Today, a bipartisan majority in the Senate took another important step in this journey by passing the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would help end the injustice of our fellow Americans being denied a job or fired just because they are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Just as no one in the United States can lose their job simply because of their race, gender, religion or a disability, no one should ever lose their job simply because of who they are or who they love.

Today’s victory is a tribute to all those who fought for this progress ever since a similar bill was introduced after the Stonewall riots more than three decades ago. In particular, I thank Majority Leader Reid, Chairman Harkin, Senators Merkley and Collins for their leadership, and Senator Kirk for speaking so eloquently in support of this legislation. Now it’s up to the House of Representatives. This bill has the overwhelming support of the American people, including a majority of Republican voters, as well as many corporations, small businesses and faith communities. They recognize that our country will be more just and more prosperous when we harness the God-given talents of every individual.

One party in one house of Congress should not stand in the way of millions of Americans who want to go to work each day and simply be judged by the job they do. Now is the time to end this kind of discrimination in the workplace, not enable it. I urge the House Republican leadership to bring this bill to the floor for a vote and send it to my desk so I can sign it into law. On that day, our nation will take another historic step toward fulfilling the founding ideals that define us as Americans.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/07/statement-president-senate-passage-employment-non-discrimination-act-201

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
32. And the teaparty House will take glee in shutting it down and seeing to it it goes no further. eom
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:34 PM
Nov 2013

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
34. Not even noted on Fox News website. Anywhere.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:17 PM
Nov 2013

No, I don't surf there, but Media Matters claimed it wasn't reported, so I held my nose and went to the Faux website. Whaddaya know: It's not there. Anywhere, as of this writing, many hours after passage.

The FReepers live in their tightly controlled, hermetically sealed little world. They are doomed. We might not like the news out there, but we acknowledge it exists. They don't (see, e.g., climate change or evolution).

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
40. It is a shame that the Senate did all this work
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:47 AM
Nov 2013

and that Republicans are going to once again double down and not even allow a vote. Every single House candidate should run ads against Republicans (especially incumbents) pointing out that they and their caucus are against ENDA.

I am almost positive if Boner let the bill up for a vote a few dozen Rs would cross the isle to vote for it.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
41. I still think this will come up for a vote in the House.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:50 AM
Nov 2013

Consider the donations aspect to this issue. They either bring it up or the money dries up.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
42. I don't know
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:54 AM
Nov 2013

The Republicans have pretty consistently blocked bills or budgets by just keeping them from coming to a vote. I hope I'm wrong, but I just have a feeling they are going to stay with the same strategy.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
46. Great news, but...
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:09 AM
Nov 2013

... we all know it won't even make it to the floor of the House until after a House sweep next fall for Democrats.

................ 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! 2014! ................

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
49. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were among those voting no.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 10:30 PM
Nov 2013

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!!!

Historic moment which will be killed by Rafael and Marco's buddies in the House.

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