The FDA Is 'Coming After Your Doughnuts,' Rand Paul Warns

[Redfairen]

Source: Talkingpointsmemo

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) slammed the Food and Drug Administration's "nanny state" at an event Monday, warning attendees that the agency is "coming after your doughnuts!"

At a Republican fundraiser in Charleston, S.C., Paul said the Affordable Care Act is a slippery slope leading to Americans being denied "Big Gulps" and doughnuts. Last week, the FDA announced it would require the food industry to phase out all trans fats. 

"The FDA has banned unilaterally -- some unelected bureaucrat has banned trans fats," he said. "So I say we need to line every one of them up. I want to see how skinny or how fat the FDA agents are who are making the rules on this."

.......

"If we're gonna have a nanny state, and everybody's gotta eat the right thing and you can't eat a doughnut, maybe we ought to just enforce it on the government workers first," he said.



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/the-fda-is-coming-after-your-doughnuts-rand-paul-warns-video

[MyNameGoesHere]

1. DOH!

I will give up my doughnut when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

[xocet]

2. And Rand Paul is 'Coming After Anything You Have Written, So He Can Use It Without Attribution!' nt

[Lobo27]

3. Writers Association warns of Rand Paul coming for your work!!!

[CTyankee]

4. OK, then, DOUGHNUTS will be the #1 republican issue for 2016!

There will be riots in the streets, I tell ya...

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Rand, Baby

just don't let them come after my HAIR, ok?

[Dopers_Greed]

6. I thought that this issue would have been brought up by Rush or Crisco first

Maybe the Plagiarist uses trans fats to style his rug.

[KamaAina]

8. I thought he used a wind tunnel to style his rug.

[KamaAina]

7. Oh, keep your rug on, Rand.

Donuts have been around since the early 19th century. Trans fats date back only to the 1890s. Ergo, donuts can be made without trans fats.

[Populist_Prole]

11. So many people forget that

I run into so many uninformed dunderheads that are always screaming freedom/liberty ect as they hang their causes on the stupidest trivial things like junk food. Commercially baked goods, french fries etc were all made without trans fats up till relatively recently, it's just that trans fats are cheaper for "Foodco" to use. Same thing with high-fructose corn syrup; Just a cheap way of adding sugar and body to foods like ketchup and sauces and such.

I try to tell this to those lunkheads who define their liberty by their right to eat junk food but they just blow it off as though I was some effete intellectual killjoy.

Fuck 'em, let them die. They're all conservatives anyway.

By the way, did you mean 1990's and not 1890's in your post?

[csziggy]

35. Hydrogenated fats were created in the 1890s

Nobel laureate Paul Sabatier worked in the late 1890s to develop the chemistry of hydrogenation, which enabled the margarine, oil hydrogenation, and synthetic methanol industries.[16] Whereas Sabatier considered hydrogenation of only vapors, the German chemist Wilhelm Normann showed in 1901 that liquid oils could be hydrogenated, and patented the process in 1902.[17][18][19] During the years 1905–1910, Normann built a fat-hardening facility in the Herford company. At the same time, the invention was extended to a large-scale plant in Warrington, England, at Joseph Crosfield & Sons, Limited. It took only two years until the hardened fat could be successfully produced in the plant in Warrington, commencing production in the autumn of 1909. The initial year's production totalled nearly 3,000 tonnes.[20] In 1909, Procter & Gamble acquired the US rights to the Normann patent;[21] in 1911, they began marketing the first hydrogenated shortening, Crisco (composed largely of partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil). Further success came from the marketing technique of giving away free cookbooks in which every recipe called for Crisco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fat#History

[freshwest]

9. Ah, Randy, Randy, Randy. Stealing other people's words again. Quite a bad habit you have there.

You stole this from that 'doctor' who went on the attack against Michelle Obama, saying people would be forced to eat fruits and vegetables!

Oh, the horror!

Probably got his 'Dr.' title from a diploma mill just like you, Rand. Is that where you got this tripe, from your 'business' located in a P. O. Box or did you tune into Rush?

And you were going to quit because of the big bad Rachel Maddox hurt your little feelings and you can't fight her. After all, she doesn't look like she eats doughnuts or big gulps but she respects her body, unlike you.

Go and steal some new ideas. On second thought, just buzz off. Don't let the screen door hit you on the ass on your way out.

BTW, about your daddy... I found a video that applies to your nanny state and you:

No, I am not going to be nice about it.

When your nanny state gets out of other people's underwear, and your troglodyte economic schemes quit stealing from my pocket, we'll talk about nannies, Mr. Aqua Buddha Buddy...

[nyquil_man]

10. Here's another excerpt from his speech:

A doughnut is a type of fried dough confectionery or dessert food. The doughnut is popular in many countries and prepared in various forms as a sweet snack that can be homemade or purchased in bakeries, supermarkets, food stalls, and franchised specialty outlets. They are usually deep-fried from a flour dough, and typically either ring-shaped or without a hole and often filled. Other types of batters can also be used, and various toppings and flavorings are used for different types, such as sugar, chocolate, or maple glazing.

It's a great point because liberty.

[nomorenomore08]

43. And how is this any different from reading "Good Night, Moon" during a filibuster?

[Benton D Struckcheon]

53. Is your post meant as a joke?

Because that is verbatim the first paragraph of Wikipedia's entry on the doughnut:

A doughnut or donut (/ˈdoʊnət/ or /ˈdoʊnʌt/) (see spelling differences) is a type of fried dough confectionery or dessert food. The doughnut is popular in many countries and prepared in various forms as a sweet snack that can be homemade or purchased in bakeries, supermarkets, food stalls, and franchised specialty outlets. They are usually deep-fried from a flour dough, and typically either ring-shaped or without a hole and often filled. Other types of batters can also be used, and various toppings and flavorings are used for different types, such as sugar, chocolate, or maple glazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doughnut

[nyquil_man]

55. Yes, it's a joke.

I wish I hadn't made it, actually. Now I can't read that passage without hearing Rand Paul's voice.

[alp227]

12. Oh really?

[A Simple Game]

13. Coming After Your Doughnuts, Coming After Your Doughnuts?

Where did I hear that before? One of the Police Academy movies, an old Dragnet show?

Oh Well, we know it came from somewhere. Anyone see the footnotes for that speech?

[Playinghardball]

14. What the hell will the Cops eat?

According to them it's part 6 of the major foods groups...

[freshwest]

24. That's what I always heard, too. Had a friend who worked at a donut shop many years ago...

Cops got free coffee and donuts since their presence helped to keep robbers away. Usually one squad car at a time for coffee breaks.

Guess Starbucks would be the ticket now, but I don't see the cops parked there. Maybe they don't feel the need to encourage visits. Don't have many donut shops where I live now.

But the police are not ashamed of eating donuts. Brain food, ya know:



http://thepolicedaily.com/donuts.htm

[Beacool]

28. Starbucks is too pricey.

Dunkin is much more affordable for the average Joe. Although, in my town there are two places that a thief would be stupid to rob: the diner and the most popular pizzeria. The cops are always eating in both.

Which reminds me of a funny story. Some years ago a guy decided to rob a bar in Brooklyn. What he didn't know was that it was owned by a former cop and that other cops hanged around there in their off hours. When he aimed a gun at the owner, not only did the owner pull out his own gun, but so did most of the people who were at the bar.

[freshwest]

33. That's a good story. But in my area, which is urban, it's very hard to find donuts, period.

And they are almost as pricey as Starbucks, so it's best to get them at the grocery store if one is having a donut attack...

In about a dozen mile radius the ratio of donut shops to Starbucks (or others shops competing with them) is about 20:1.

Closest Dunkin' charges over a dollar for one plain glazed donut. A dozen is twenty bucks. So, they are off my list, and it's kind of a bummer, but people's tastes vary from one region to another.

Now, get out in the far suburbs, and Krispy Kreme has cars lined up in the parking lot and the drive through window. They aren't cheap, but then they are in a pricey area.

I really enjoyed that diner story, it must have looked like something right out of a movie.

I found this picture here, apparently in NYC:



Makes me want a donut right now. Fat chance of that, though...

[Beacool]

37. Yep, that's NY.

Where I live we have several Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts. I have a Dunkin a block away. I like their coffee, ice tea in summer and the occasional muffin. I'm not a donut eater, so they don't really tempt me. BTW, I live in a pretty expensive neighborhood, but a dozen donuts are not $20.00. They have a lot of Dunkin coupons in the newspapers, you may be able to get your donut fix for cheap. Right now I have a Dunkin card that entitles me to a free medium coffee every Monday for the months of October and November.

[sir pball]

47. Funny, NYC has had a trans-fat ban for years now

And yet DD and Star$ are doing quite well. Wouldn't surprise me if all their products nationwide are already compliant - NYC is such a huge market that it doesn't always make sense to have two different product lines, just make them all to NYC standards. Anyway, it's not "taking your donuts away" so much as "removing useless toxins* from your donuts!"


* - yes I know they aren't toxic per se, but as a chemist-chef I know they serve no culinary or nutritional purpose, it's purely economic. Extended shelf life and whatnot.

[Beacool]

15. I wish that the FDA would go after the dead animal on his head.

[warrant46]

19. It is a bad looking Pelt on his Melon

[Beacool]

26. Yeah, it looks moth eaten.

[warrant46]

27. LOL

[Sunlei]

16. carefull what you wish for Rand,remember what R unlimited open bars & fatty foods did to breibart

[YOHABLO]

17. Don't take my Krispy Kremes away! Nothing better than fried dough in fat

[freshwest]

34. From the UK's Guardian. Heart-stopping moments:

Is the proliferation of wildly unhealthy foodstuffs an act of rebellion against the healthy eating movement? Would you eat a Krispy Kreme doughnut burger or deep fried Coke?


Cups of deep fried Coke. Ping-pong ball sized chunks of batter made with Coca-Cola syrup are deep-fried and served in a cup topped with more Coca-Cola syrup, whipped cream, cinnamon sugar and a cherry on the top.
Photograph: Reuters

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/feb/04/unhealthy-deep-fried-food

Maybe in moderation and after working out for a few hours. We all gotta die of something. I'm always amazed at skinny poeple with high cholesterol who drop dead with HBP. It just doesn't seem fair. But we gotta try.

[Alamuti Lotus]

18. He probably plagiarized that from a Dunkin Donuts press release

[marble falls]

20. When will mental health professionals be coming after Rand Paul?

[cstanleytech]

21. So this is the new FUD? Fear....Uncertainty and ........................ Donuts!!!!

[thefool_wa]

22. Sadly I agree with Mr. Paul

Essentially the FDA just made salad dressing and dipping sauce illegal. Margarine too. This is nanny state horse crap that should be required to go through the legislative process, not be the mandate of people in appointed offices.

Not to mention the act that, yet again, we seem to be legislating out of FOX's Sunday night animation show plots.

I am at the point where i want neither party in charge any more. They all need done away with.

[Xithras]

30. Donuts were invented in the 1850's. Trans fats didn't become big until after the 1920's.

Someone should tell Rand Paul that donuts don't require trans fats. Nobody is taking your donuts away. They're just taking away one ingredient that has never been needed.

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, the primary trans fat being targeted, is just vegetable oil with a little extra hydrogen added so that it will make a solid stick at room temperature. In most cases you can just substitute liquid vegetable oil and accomplish the exact same thing...and you'll be healthier for doing so.

BTW, with most recipes, the substitution is simple. 1 cup of margarine = 7/8 cup of vegetable oil + 1/2 teaspoon of salt.

[freshwest]

41. How about blending butter with vegetable oil? That would be all natural, don't know about margarine.

Someone told me to whip olive oil and butter, but talked to someone who said when you whip it, you are adding air that has hydrogen... So IDK!!!

BTW, Rand is... I'm trying to stop bashing that guy... Okay, I'll post on another thread to keep myself calm. Let me know about the other, though,, TIA.

[thefool_wa]

48. Exatly

Its not like trans fats are created by some kind of mysterious process, they literally use a hydrogen aerator to do nothing more than whip the oils to a different consistency.

I think this is a bad move, especially since I am not sure there is evidence to say that doing this will decrease anything as far as health problems are concerned. People will still eat whatever they want, myself included, whether or not it is "good for me". That's what we call America Plus, there are tons of factors that contribute to the health problems that Trans Fats are typically blamed exclusively for.

Plus, you know, American Dad did it

[bitchkitty]

51. You don't have to whip it.

Just melt the butter on low and stir in the olive oil. It firms up nicely in the fridge and doesn't separate.

[thefool_wa]

49. Well, yeah

But this still effectively takes margarine off the market. I am not cool with that.

[thefool_wa]

56. Here's another problem I thought of about this...

Everyone here who has pointed out that we did have palatable food before the discovery of trans fat processes is missing a huge problem with reverting to the time before they were used.

In many cases we are talking about reverting to using things like beef tallow and pig lard, which are equally as bad if not worse depending on the application.

This is more short sighted BS and further proof our dysfunctional government has no grasp on the real world.

[Thor_MN]

40. Most companies have been reducing or eliminating trans-fats on their own

A few years back, you could pick up almost any package in a grocery store and the list of ingredients would include several partially hydrogenated this or thats. Products are now much less likely to contain them.

[freshwest]

52. I always avoided them since my college biology teacher explained the problem.

His version of what the liver would say being forced to process them:

'What am I supposed to do with this? She ate wax!'

After that it was butter and olive oil for me, as the body does know what to do with that.

He also said the birth control pills of the era put the body out of balance, were not as complex as they should have been.

'It's like burning down the barn to get rid of rats,' he said.

They weren't made as they are now, they were changed to lower doses of hormones for safety.

We can live without the transfats, they are mostly, AFAIK, a commercial product, not based on good nutrition.

[Javaman]

23. desperate man has slipped off the rails. nt

[Dakota Flint]

25. Riddle me this batman!

What does a doughnut hole have in common with inside Rand Paul's skull? Answer: They both compose empty space.

[rug]

29. "I'll give you my donut when you pry it from my hot, sticky hands."

[Moral Compass]

31. Now this is a cause we can all get behind

Think I'm going to have to change parties now... If they're coming for my doughnuts. I'm going full right wing. Because nothing says freedom like transfats.

Wonder what his position is on arsenic? Because the freedom to put poison in the products you sell for consumption is enshrined in the Constitution in one of the those amendment thingies... Or the Declaration of Independence. I think.

[cynzke]

32. Everyone

on the right bitching about the nanny state should realize that the main reason health care costs are skyrocketing in this country is because chronic illness is skyrocketing in this county. Heart disease, cancer and diabetes mainly brought about by unhealthy live styles, lack of exercise, too much sugar and trans fats in our diets. If we want to reduce health care costs in this country and thus reduce the cost of health insurance, we have to take a more aggressive approach aimed at preventive measures, rather than throwing money at the aftermath. But the right choses to ignore that because going after Obama or anyone in his administration is more important than solving the health crisis in this country.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

36. Shorter Rand: "Apple-c,Apple-v"

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[freshwest]

38. Mr. Personhood, National RTW Law, Mountaintop Mining is Cool! got all the memes in there! KochKudo!

Let's see:

The FEDS ar coming after your doughnuts! Because they didn't come after your guns yet!

Still beating that ACA dead horse, huh, Rand? We so loved you voting for cut VA hospitals, food stamps, the sequester, the shutdown and cackling with your buddies about how much fun it'd be to 'manage catastrophe.'

Meanwhile, your state leads the way in red states signed up for the ACA. Boofuckinghoo, Rand.

Oooh, and at the low blows:

Unelected bureaucrats - gee, Rand, didn't you know that is to prevent them discriminating?

And bureaucrats - had to get that old moniker in. Kiss my foot, Rand.

Wanna see them trotted out in a criminal lineup to be inspected by who, you, you little Napoleon - who are you giving orders to?

To see their weight? Gee, stay classy there, asswipe. Honestly, dude, you ain't no Brad Pitt.

A nanny state, uh? Guess those old diatribes from Rush really did the job. 'Womb to the Tomb' is what you're counting on to resonate in those empty skulls - and you really do insult your state, acting like donuts and big gulps is such a priority.

Speaking of Wombs there, pal, get your nosy state outta the lady parts!

And ow, snap, enforce it on government workers, first! You know, those guys who actually have degrees in nutrition, science (say the word, Rand, c'mon, you can do it, just say.. sciii-ennce!) and may be real doctors on the payroll instead of faux doctors, uh, like yourself.

Oh, and by the way, do something anatomically impossible to yourself. Since you're so concerned about sex...

Okay, I'll get off Rand's case for a while. But I truly despise this lying Kochroach.

[u4ic]

39. Ummm...isn't the dude a Dr?

Making junk food even a tad healthier is a good thing.

[Psephos]

42. On this matter, the man has a point.

Sucks that he's the one making it.

Where are the D's who should be saying it instead?

[nomorenomore08]

44. Except that no one - not even Bloomberg - is actually trying to ban donuts.

I do question the efficacy of a trans fat ban myself, but it's nothing to freak out over. We'll still be able to get our donut fix.

[Psephos]

45. Camel. Nose. Tent. n/t

[struggle4progress]

46. Bastard FDA bastards! What next? Preventing bakers from adding sugar of lead to their confections?

Making it illegal to put cyanide in candy? Tyranny is on the march! At this rate, it may soon be illegal to stuff your own garden full of claymores or to use razorwire to keep toddlers inside playgrounds!

[Throckmorton]

50. "it may soon be illegal to stuff your own garden full of claymores", really, the rat bastards

Thats it, I am voting for the pro-claymore wing-nut party candidate in the next election.

I don't eat donuts, they give me hives.

Edit: Can i still say "Rat Bastard" on DU?

[SheilaT]

54. Ahh, jeez.

Personally, I find that the quality of commercial donuts has gone so much that I never buy them anymore. Way back when I was in high school I'd occasionally get up early in the morning and make donuts from scratch. My younger sister still has fond memories of me doing this.

Haven't made them since high school, but I've thought about it lately.

[ThoughtCriminal]

57. And...

[Ash_F]

58. You can have my dooughnuts when you pry them from my dead sticky fingers!