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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:59 AM Nov 2013

NSA Grapples With 988% Increase in Records Requests

Source: USA Today

Fueled by the Edward Snowden scandal, more Americans than ever are asking the NSA if their personal life is being spied on.

And the NSA has a very direct answer for them: Tough luck, we're not telling you.

Americans are inundating the National Security Agency with open-records requests, leading to a 988% increase in such inquiries. Anyone asking is getting a standard pre-written letter saying the NSA can neither confirm nor deny that any information has been gathered.

"This was the largest spike we've ever had," said Pamela Phillips, the chief of the NSA Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act Office, which handles all records requests to the agency. "We've had requests from individuals who want any records we have on their phone calls, their phone numbers, their e-mail addresses, their IP addresses, anything like that."...



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/17/nsa-grapples-with-988-increase-in-open-records-requests/3519889/

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NSA Grapples With 988% Increase in Records Requests (Original Post) Indi Guy Nov 2013 OP
Keep on asking Demeter Nov 2013 #1
That just means the NSA will request (and get) Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #16
Land of the free Alamuti Lotus Nov 2013 #2
k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #3
They aren't going to give bugger all. delrem Nov 2013 #4
An agency out of control, with few checks, and fewer balances. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #5
A nation of laws? Conium Nov 2013 #6
How pathetic. treestar Nov 2013 #7
Perhaps more a measure of paranoia bucolic_frolic Nov 2013 #8
I completely agree! Javaman Nov 2013 #9
Not really a relevant response treestar Nov 2013 #15
Right you are, again! Javaman Nov 2013 #19
I know! cui bono Nov 2013 #12
Not really. treestar Nov 2013 #14
"People affected are not likely to be ordinary Americans personal lives." Indi Guy Nov 2013 #18
An ego almost as large as... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #13
Maybe they don't care what I'm posting on DemocraticUnderground... Earth_First Nov 2013 #17
Do suspects under investigation -say, human trafficking rings- have the right to know... randome Nov 2013 #20
I'm not quite sure what point you're making here. Indi Guy Nov 2013 #22
I wonder how many of the requests are like these: KurtNYC Nov 2013 #10
'Grapples' means sending out canned responses? randome Nov 2013 #11
It's Too Bad They Won't Release the Data On the Road Nov 2013 #21
Corporate fascism. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #23
Precisely. Indi Guy Nov 2013 #25
So now we need another Snowden christx30 Nov 2013 #24

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. That just means the NSA will request (and get)
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:19 PM
Nov 2013

a budget increase for more resources so they can better 'process' the FOIA demands....

delrem

(9,688 posts)
4. They aren't going to give bugger all.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:54 AM
Nov 2013

They are totally protected, like the war-criminals of the G.W.B. admin.

Conium

(119 posts)
6. A nation of laws?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:15 AM
Nov 2013

In a nation of laws, even enforcers must follow the law. The FOIA is the law of the land.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. How pathetic.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:30 AM
Nov 2013

What kind of ego would a person have to have to think they were being spied on in their personal lives?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Not really a relevant response
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:18 PM
Nov 2013

Not jus tasking questions, asking it if it is spying on your personal life. I pretty much realize the government doesn't care. Only the IRS, which likely is the only agency with much information about ordinary Americans.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. Not really.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:16 PM
Nov 2013

We're talking about people the government would have no interest in.

People affected are not likely to be ordinary Americans personal lives. It's too silly. The government does not care in the least who you are dating, etc. They don't care what you post on a place like DU. If they were really spying on anyone, it wouldn't be ordinary people, by definition.

Anyone ordinary who thinks they are being spied on is egomaniacal or crazy or pathetic. The only possible people who might be spied on would be big time drug dealers, people really suspected of terrorism - in fact an ordinary mosque goer might be somewhat justified. If they have a high profile there.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
18. "People affected are not likely to be ordinary Americans personal lives."
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:41 PM
Nov 2013

I hope you're not serious. We're all affected when our Constitution/rule of law is trashed.

Also, your statement sounds like the kind of denial that went on in WWII Germany. "Oh don't worry -- they're not coming after us (yet). Did I miss something? Doesn't the axiom still stand that absolute power corrupts absolutely?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. An ego almost as large as...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:16 PM
Nov 2013

An ego almost as large as the individuals who like to hand down criticisms of others based on little more than hand-me-down Freudian bumper stickers.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
17. Maybe they don't care what I'm posting on DemocraticUnderground...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 03:28 PM
Nov 2013

Maybe they do.

Maybe as the result of my activities in which I have participated in outside of DemocraticUnderground have created a situation in which they are dragnetting the opinons I leave both here amd elsewhere as a result.

Having the legal right to know of such activites leaves an individual with paranoid convictions and an EGO taboot?!

SMH.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. Do suspects under investigation -say, human trafficking rings- have the right to know...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
Nov 2013

...if they are under investigation? Demanding that a government agency tasked with monitoring foreign communications reveal if they are investigating someone domestically seems like a fishing expedition designed to tie up resources.
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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
22. I'm not quite sure what point you're making here.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:47 PM
Nov 2013

Are you saying that criminals are likely to ask the government if they're under investigation?

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
10. I wonder how many of the requests are like these:
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:51 AM
Nov 2013

"Hey I just deleted a voicemail that I wanted to keep. Can you send me your copy?"

"I lost my old phone with all the phone numbers, can you guys just set-up my new one? You know the phone I bought yesterday."

"I think my spouse is cheating. Can you copy his/her meta-data and send it to me and my attorney?"

"My relative didn't come home last night. What GPS are you showing for his phone right now?"

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. 'Grapples' means sending out canned responses?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:54 AM
Nov 2013

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On the Road

(20,783 posts)
21. It's Too Bad They Won't Release the Data
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:45 PM
Nov 2013

it's not likely any of the people requesting would be on the list.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
25. Precisely.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:46 PM
Nov 2013

It seems that nobody talks about the revolving door between government & big business anymore -- the interchange of execs & the cross-pollination of purpose.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
24. So now we need another Snowden
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:41 PM
Nov 2013

to steal the information and release a serchable database so people can find out what is going on.

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