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alp227

(32,016 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:39 PM Nov 2013

Obama Presents Top Honor to Bill Clinton

Source: New york times

WASHINGTON — In a ceremony that mixed history and pageantry with the enduring mysteries of a rivalrous political relationship, President Obama on Wednesday bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor, on former President Bill Clinton and 15 others.

Under the twinkling chandeliers of the East Room, Mr. Obama paid tribute to Mr. Clinton for his work as governor of Arkansas, as the 42nd president, and as the founder of the Clinton Global Initiative, which Mr. Obama said had saved millions of lives.

“Lifting up families like his own became the story of Bill Clinton’s life,” the president said, as Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, sat in the front row of the audience. “He wanted to make sure he made life better and easier for so many people across the country.”

The tableau of Democratic presidents past, present and maybe future was vivid — even more so because this was the 50th anniversary of the Medal of Freedom, an honor created by perhaps the most beloved Democratic president of all, John F. Kennedy.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/us/obama-presents-top-honor-to-bill-clinton.html



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Obama Presents Top Honor to Bill Clinton (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2013 OP
He will never get the job done using his finger tips Rambis Nov 2013 #1
You do realize you are on Democratic Underground right? Maybe you took a wrong turn at VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #2
... and NAFTA, and "Welfare to Work", and and and ... Myrina Nov 2013 #3
So has EVERY President... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #5
This thread isn't about EVERY President. Myrina Nov 2013 #7
He insinuated choking him when he is receiving an honor he deserves....that's why! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #8
I'm with you on this. I also alerted on that poster. shraby Nov 2013 #10
thanks.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #12
JEBUS he was kidding fadedrose Nov 2013 #25
NOBODY said Bill was the star did they? I oppose anyone using murderous imagery VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #29
The article said... fadedrose Nov 2013 #33
its talking about the AWARD itself is the top....not that his is more....sheesh VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #38
then he should use his murdering imagery someplace other than a Democratic Forum. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #13
He's kidding fadedrose Nov 2013 #34
I thought the comment was funny dlwickham Nov 2013 #35
me too on both counts n/t Psephos Nov 2013 #47
Is a former CIC considered a Civilian? Myrina Nov 2013 #4
Yep... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #6
Yes. The current CinC is a civilian. Every CinC has been a civilian. sarge43 Nov 2013 #9
He's not in office anymore, therefore his a civilian again just as any of the shraby Nov 2013 #11
sure dlwickham Nov 2013 #36
This is Obama's way Plucketeer Nov 2013 #14
Oh, what have we here, a post about Clinton and Obama too. Beacool Nov 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #17
It's all made-up drama by the media and the Clinton haters. Beacool Nov 2013 #18
True. They don't even need to be BFEE. Wilms Nov 2013 #28
Bill actually hangs around with Daddy...not Junior VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #39
Wrong Bush. Beacool Nov 2013 #44
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #20
He will never get the job done using his finger tips MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #16
really??!!!!!! heaven05 Nov 2013 #19
I like the body language in this one better Fumesucker Nov 2013 #21
ha ha. Lovely. Thanks for sharing. riversedge Nov 2013 #27
A well-desrved honor. Paladin Nov 2013 #22
Hear, hear!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #30
Obama is not as angry at Clinton as some might expect novano Nov 2013 #23
I thought Clinton's was a waste of a good medal fadedrose Nov 2013 #24
Whatever......... Beacool Nov 2013 #31
I don't see the humanitarianism in that Intiative fadedrose Nov 2013 #32
You don't? Funny the rest of the world does...You know he fights AIDS Worldwide right? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #40
You don't know me, so don't presume and make assumptions. Beacool Nov 2013 #43
Yes, because Oprah is so much more deserving. Beausoir Nov 2013 #37
Have you met the woman? I have 4 times....Oh and she is a MAJOR philanthropist... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #41
Ooooh! I get all tingly just thinking about your thrill at meeting Oprah! Beausoir Nov 2013 #46
Congratulations Bill Clinton. riversedge Nov 2013 #26
Article edited out the words spoken about Bill Clinton. I didn't see any other people fadedrose Nov 2013 #42
The Clinton haters are going to hate Hobo Nov 2013 #45

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
1. He will never get the job done using his finger tips
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:43 PM
Nov 2013

He needs to wrap his hands around the ribbon and pull like hell!

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
2. You do realize you are on Democratic Underground right? Maybe you took a wrong turn at
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:54 PM
Nov 2013

Albuquerque or something...

Let's see...in my adult lifetime.....I have seen only 3 Democratic Presidents...he is 1...and he had 2 terms. He also IS the founder of the Clinton Global Initiative....which is highly respected world wide.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
5. So has EVERY President...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:58 PM
Nov 2013

Which of the three in my lifetime have none?.....Let me know when you elect a Far Left President...

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
7. This thread isn't about EVERY President.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:02 PM
Nov 2013

It's about Mr. Clinton and the person above's apparent dislike for him, which by the way he IS entitled to.

Why are you so adamant that everyone adore Clinton or be violating DU Terms of Service?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
8. He insinuated choking him when he is receiving an honor he deserves....that's why!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:05 PM
Nov 2013

It's the disrespect I didn't like...It has nothing to do with adoration...

It has to do with supporting a DEMOCRAT getting a deserved award reserved for very few.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
25. JEBUS he was kidding
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:45 PM
Nov 2013

The article is a joke because it doesn't capture both the humor and solemnity of the occasion and doesn't discuss the truly deserving of the 15 medals. Clinton was not treated special as the article strongly suggests, all were treated equally, same medal, Clinton's was not bigger or shinier.

And I don't think that President Obama picked any of them. They were chosen by the Kennedy's - It's their award to very special Americans of all occupations (including science, basketball, Hillbilly music, jazz, politics, speakers, veterans, races, sexual preferences, and a bunch of stuff.

Watch it tonight. Bill was not the star.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
29. NOBODY said Bill was the star did they? I oppose anyone using murderous imagery
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 05:41 PM
Nov 2013

against ANY Democrat. I don't understand how you don't.

it's about the respect....he didn't receive it because he was a former president. His work with the Clinton initiative is the reason.

He should have shown some damn respect for everyone being honored.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
33. The article said...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:43 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:16 PM - Edit history (2)

Clinton "receives the top award." Nobody received the top award. They all got the same award with the same recognition and appreciation of their varying achievements.

Some of them were Late Basketball Coach Dean's wife, accepting for him, Oprah Winfrey, Richard Lugar, for his relentless struggle to remove all nuclear weapons left over from the cold war, Loretta Lynn, Editor Ben Bradlee from the Washington Post who printed the Vietnam war beginnings, Paster Vivian, Jazz artist (name escapes me), Susan Ride, deceased, award received by lesbian partner, a scientist who figured out how fluorocarbons were messing up the atmosphere, late Sen. Daniel Inouye s wife, Gloria Steinem, Ernie Banks, and a few others, most of whom made my eyes tear up, and I loved watching it, even the Clinton part, but he was not given the top award.


It's on CSpan tonight. Watch it, please, you may agree with my review.


 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
38. its talking about the AWARD itself is the top....not that his is more....sheesh
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

reading comprehension please...

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
13. then he should use his murdering imagery someplace other than a Democratic Forum.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:21 PM
Nov 2013

this isn't the Discuss murdering Democrats you don't like Underground...

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
34. He's kidding
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:59 PM
Nov 2013

I'm still mad because he said on tv and shook his finger at me that he didn't have sexual relations with that woman. Wasn't mentioned in his award speech that he was impeached, either.

If you can't take a silly remark like that about the medal, how about can be said that wasn't silly about their administration. No mention of White Water, Vince Foster, FBI Files found on a hall table, some other babes, Walmart's board of directors, Is it Rupert Murdock her new friend, or the other Fox guy..

Where do you get the nerve about him hurting the forum with that silly remark that we all know that he didn't mean ,and it doesn't come close to the innuendo and truths I just posted hurting this forum's reputation.

Beacool is a good supporter. She's more pleasant and I always hate to hurt her feelings.

This whole thread raised my ire because it said he got a "top award" and that was just not the unadulterated truth and I thought it needed some truthiness.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
9. Yes. The current CinC is a civilian. Every CinC has been a civilian.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:12 PM
Nov 2013

Active duty members of the armed forces can not hold public office

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. This is Obama's way
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:22 PM
Nov 2013

of thanking Bill for showing him the way with regards to the TPP, Single Payer, Chained CPI and other pivotal Purple Dog discretionary goals.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
15. Oh, what have we here, a post about Clinton and Obama too.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:33 PM
Nov 2013

Let's run over here and bash it just for the fun of it.



Thanks, alp. It's a nice post.

Response to Beacool (Reply #15)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
18. It's all made-up drama by the media and the Clinton haters.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:50 PM
Nov 2013

Both presidents seem to get along just fine. It's a professional relationship, they don't have to be BFF.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
16. He will never get the job done using his finger tips
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:41 PM
Nov 2013

He needs to wrap his hands around the ribbon and pull like hell




We are talking about Clinton right?

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
22. A well-desrved honor.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:21 PM
Nov 2013

Nothing that you resident DU Clinton Haters can say makes any difference, at this point.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
24. I thought Clinton's was a waste of a good medal
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:38 PM
Nov 2013

Saw the whole program - the "15 others" made it very very worthwhile.. It'll be on CSpan tonight.

I though Carter was more deserving of the honor, although he may already have received it in previous years, don't know.

Former President Clinton did not receive a "top" honor as the headline suggests. ALL of the recipients were read their achievements by President Obama, takaing the same of time, it seemed, and he pinned a medal on every one of them. He had the audience stand at the end to applaud the sitting honorees.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
32. I don't see the humanitarianism in that Intiative
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

I've read so much that it's a money maker for them. Of course, everything you read isn't true. Some was written by a former staffer.

BUT, my real complaint is with the article. If you didn't see the affair you couldn't know why I objected to the way it was written.....receives "top" award, my foot, there were 16 of them, I believe and none of them got the top award.

If YOU had been there, you probably would have wished that Clinton had a bigger role and got more attention.

Oh, I think Erin O'Brien said (and I don't think she's a lefty), "Clinton threw Obama under the bus," with that remark about, "If I said you could keep your insurance," and Obama had already responded to that almost a week sooner. I think the President was very tastefully gracious to Clinton.

People who are negative about the Clintons do so for reasons, not just to hurt YOUR feelings. You are a a great supporter for them, always there, and I hope you are not disappointed, even tho I think you will be. You're a good kid, Beacool. But you have to realize that we love our candidates the same way you love yours. And ours don't have all that luggage YET.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
40. You don't? Funny the rest of the world does...You know he fights AIDS Worldwide right?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:05 PM
Nov 2013

his Initiative is said to have saved millions of lives...

So YEAH it was just to ruffle some feathers...because you don't know the first thing about what you are talking about.

Google is your friend:

CGI Annual Meetings have brought together more than 150 heads of state, 20 Nobel Prize laureates, and hundreds of leading CEOs, heads of foundations and NGOs, major philanthropists, and members of the media. As of 2013, CGI members have made more than 2,300 commitments, which have improved the lives of over 400 million people in more than 180 countries. When fully funded and implemented, these commitments will be valued at $73.5 billion.[20]

CGI meetings also include CGI University, an annual conference for college students, and CGI America, an annual event focused on finding solutions that promote economic recovery in the United States. In December 2013, CGI will host its first CGI Latin America meeting in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

One of its major donors is Norway's government—20 million Norwegian kroner per year as of 2013.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Global_Initiative#Clinton_Global_Initiative_.28CGI.29

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
43. You don't know me, so don't presume and make assumptions.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:34 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks to the Clinton Foundation there are thousands of people who are alive today who wouldn't be otherwise. Do some real research on the foundation from people who don't have an axe to grind.

As for the opinion of O'Brien or any other hack, I don't give a crap what they have to say about anyone.

BTW, I wouldn't expend a considerable amount of time supporting someone who I don't personally know.

"By 2005, Bill Clinton's foundation brokered discounts from generic manufacturers in India that have reduced the cost of combination drug treatments, which can reach thousands of dollars per year in the West, to as low as $120 a year per patient. As prices fell, demand increased, yielding economies of scale that have helped lower prices further, says Michael Kazatchkine, executive director of the Global Fund to Fight HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria."

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_33/b4191021714150.htm

In 2001 Bill Clinton - following the end of his second term as US president - confirmed his commitment to HIV/AIDS drug provision when he established the William J. Clinton Foundation, containing an HIV/AIDS programme. Using the former President’s contacts and knowledge, the foundation has continually worked to increase access to HIV treatment by negotiating pricing deals with drug manufacturers and working to improve health care services in developing countries. - See more at: http://www.avert.org/antiretroviral-drug-prices.htm#sthash.ITnP4kyy.dpuf

http://www.avert.org/antiretroviral-drug-prices.htm

 

Beausoir

(7,540 posts)
37. Yes, because Oprah is so much more deserving.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:46 PM
Nov 2013

A freaking talk-show host who made a billion by exploiting people.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
41. Have you met the woman? I have 4 times....Oh and she is a MAJOR philanthropist...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:12 PM
Nov 2013

Exploiting people how? You do realize she started out a poor and sexually abused young woman...she earned her money. And I saw her IN PERSON...how she treats EVERY Single person in her audience...she speaks to each and everyone of them....thanking them personally for showing up...EVERY SINGLE taping...which are 6 per week. I have been to Harpo Studios...I have seen it with my own eyes.


Oprah has long believed that education is the door to freedom, offering a chance at a brighter future. Through her private charity, The Oprah Winfrey Foundation, she has awarded hundreds of grants to organizations that support the education and empowerment of women, children and families in the United States and around the world. Amongst her various philanthropic contributions, she has donated millions of dollars toward providing a better education for students who have merit but no means. She also created "The Oprah Winfrey Scholars Program," which gives scholarships to students determined to use their education to give back to their communities in the United States and abroad.

In December 2002, The Oprah Winfrey Foundation expanded its global humanitarian efforts with her "Christmas Kindness South Africa 2002" initiative that included visits to orphanages and rural schools in South Africa where 50,000 children received gifts of food, clothing, athletic shoes, school supplies, books and toys. Sixty-three schools received libraries and teacher education.

Read more: http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Oprah-Winfreys-Official-Biography/6#ixzz2lF5TVPl8


So here is my smilie for you..


By the way...

All rich people are not the enemy...

FDR was rich.
 

Beausoir

(7,540 posts)
46. Ooooh! I get all tingly just thinking about your thrill at meeting Oprah!
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:52 AM
Nov 2013

How awesome that must have been for you!

Did you get her autograph? Did you gush all over her about how awesome you think she is?

And I bet she was just so warm and personable to you.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
42. Article edited out the words spoken about Bill Clinton. I didn't see any other people
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:22 PM
Nov 2013

mentioned and he certainly didn't merit the Title of the article. - Reading comprehension would have most people believe that Bill got the top honor, over the other people present, like Mr. America or something.

Haiti isn't doing so well:

http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21569026-three-years-after-devastating-earthquake-republic-ngos-has-become-country

Hobo

(757 posts)
45. The Clinton haters are going to hate
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:11 AM
Nov 2013

as surely as the sun shines in the morning. I have learned not to even engage with them, its like trying to put lipstick on a pig........

Congrats President (Big Dog) Clinton



Hobo





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