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alp227

(32,017 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:17 PM Nov 2013

Call for Colorado hunting boycott misses mark

Source: Denver post

The people have spoken. And, in the end, the call of Colorado elk and deer was louder.

Concerns over a threatened boycott of Colorado hunting spurred in reaction to new gun laws enacted last spring have been put to rest, now that the state's primary big game hunting seasons have closed. The much-talked-about boycott was a bust.

"Through the main big game seasons, we were up about 5,000 licenses over last year at this time," said Randy Hampton, spokesman for Colorado Parks and Wildlife. "Just for deer and elk, we were up by about 6,000. Bear licenses sold were up about 1,400. We sold about 2,800 fewer pronghorn licenses, which brought the overall big game numbers down, but that was primarily because we reduced the quota."

Final numbers won't be available until next year, but the initial figures are a positive sign for Colorado's $1.8 billion hunting and fishing industry. The significance is magnified within CPW, the agency charged with managing the state's wildlife resources. It draws a significant portion of its operating budget from nonresident big game licenses. The division last year collected $38 million in elk and deer licenses from nonresidents, compared with $7.6 million from in-state hunters.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/outdoors/ci_24593944/call-colorado-hunting-boycott-misses-mark



AP, Feared Colorado boycott over gun laws is a bust
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Call for Colorado hunting boycott misses mark (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2013 OP
HuH??? Cryptoad Nov 2013 #1
I may have it wrong, but it appears that Colorado passed some gun legislation and there was a call rwsanders Nov 2013 #2
ALF gone nuts again? PatrynXX Nov 2013 #3
Who would have been hurt, really, had license fees been down? Orsino Nov 2013 #5
Gun rights made it up. politicat Nov 2013 #10
that's all human's of that ilk desire heaven05 Nov 2013 #4
Tiny, silly interest groups fantasizing mass movements... Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #6
HOW this boycott was run shows why it was bad happyslug Nov 2013 #7
uh yeah... whatever pasto76 Nov 2013 #8
That was the point of my article happyslug Nov 2013 #9

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
2. I may have it wrong, but it appears that Colorado passed some gun legislation and there was a call
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:40 PM
Nov 2013

for hunters to boycott hunting in Colorado, in hopes that the loss of revenue from licenses would hurt the state.
And it was a big fail.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
3. ALF gone nuts again?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:41 PM
Nov 2013

that makes no sense... (ALF as in animal liberation front) I'm not anti hunting. it must be done.. overkill no. but for some species it must be done. although real hunting to me is done with an arrow or if your Rambo a Bowie knife otherwise they'll starve and we'll have all this useless dead meat or they'll hit cars etc

Glad it was a bust. Woulda killed some people if it weren't ... then there's the meat lockers who may donate the meat they can't sell ..... Wonder if the NRA made this silly new thing up

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Who would have been hurt, really, had license fees been down?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nov 2013

And if such a drop could have been correlated with a boycott?

politicat

(9,808 posts)
10. Gun rights made it up.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:22 AM
Nov 2013

They didn't like the magazine limit because ya know, nothin is tastier than meat ground on the hoof.

From what's I hear, it was an excellent season -- even with tags up, there was more serious, responsible hunting and less recreational beer drinking in orange. So a win for everyone. (Even the deer & elk, who have been pushing the carrying capacity for several years. Those who survived will have less competition.)

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. Tiny, silly interest groups fantasizing mass movements...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 03:18 PM
Nov 2013

All they got was excess MSM coverage. They always do.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
7. HOW this boycott was run shows why it was bad
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 04:15 PM
Nov 2013

Now, one of the reason may be not enough time to do an effective boycott, to many people had plans and licenses BEFORE the decision came down.

A better way to do this boycott is to think in terms of 2014. Most States sell Hunting Licenses, but those are restricted to what game you can hunt, to hunt larger animals (and, does of smaller animals) require a hunter to buy a second license. Those second license (In some state called a "permit&quot permits someone to hunt animals NOT permitted to be hunted with a normal license.

There permits are sold to restrict how many of a particular animal is killed. In my home state of Pennsylvania almost anyone can buy a hunting license and take one Buck. No limit as to the number of bucks for total buck population is not effective as to total deer population in future years. On the other hand, if you want a doe, you must get a doe licenses and the number of Doe Licenses are restricted in numbers. The restriction is to control the total deer population the following year Thus the number of Doe license are restricted. Once sold out, you can not get one (unlike regular hunting licenses, which you can buy all year around, no limits as to what you can hunt if such hunting is permitted with the use of just a regular hunting licenses). The number of doe licenses vary year to year, and in more recent years Animal Management District by Animal Management district (no limit on Doe Licensees in Philadelphia and Allegheny Counties for example, buts strict limits elsewhere in the state).

Now, in the West, permits are often required to hunt anything larger then a deer. I did a brief research in Hunting in Colorado and it appears residents can also take Elk with a regular license,

On the other hand non-residents hunting license are a HUGE part of not only the budget for the Game Commission but also the surrounding communities. If instead of a general boycott, do research on HOW these more restrictive permits are sold, and buy them. Concentrate on one Management Control Area would be ideal. If boycotters buy all the permits, the Game Commission will still get their revenue, but the surrounding communities will find a huge drop in income in local hotels, restaurants etc. That will have a huge effect for it is these secondary beneficiaries of hunting that fight to keep the permits numbers HIGH,

Such a targeted boycott would be extremely effective, it will hit the main support for the Game Commission while NOT adversely severely the actual game animals (It will have some effect, any change does, but it will be manageable for the Game Commission will have the money to do so).

Just a commented a targeted boycott will be effective, while a general boycott will be ineffective. Show that you oppose this law by doing something EFFECTIVE, not just something that makes the boycotter feel good.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
8. uh yeah... whatever
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:14 PM
Nov 2013

I live in Colorado and this is only the second time Ive heard of this. The first also here on DU. only the gun nuts care about the new laws, and a lot of them dont even hunt.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. That was the point of my article
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:56 PM
Nov 2013

It was a badly planned boycott. When people do a boycott, do it right. I dislike the rationale behind this boycott, but I also want to show why this boycott failed and suggest how to do it better.

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