Report: Newtown shooter used Colorado-made Magpul magazines

[angka]

Source: KDVR-TV FOX 31 Denver

Adam Lanza, who went on a shooting rampage last December at Sandy Hook School in Newtown, Conn., carried out the killings using 30-round magazines made by Colorado’s Magpul Industries, according to a 48-page report released Monday.

Lanza used the company’s best-known “PMAG” (polymer magazine), a 30-round magazine, to kill 26 people, including 20 first graders, the report said.

Colorado lawmakers this year passed five bills aimed at strengthening the state’s gun laws, including a measure that bans the PMAG and any magazine of more than 15 rounds. Lawmakers cited the Sandy Hook shooting as a partial motivation for the laws.

Magpul, which is based in Erie, fought hard to stop the proposal, even threatening to leave the state should it pass (the measure became law in May and, as of November, Magpul has not yet moved although the company said it’s still planning it).



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[davepc]

1. He used some of the most popular and common aftermarket magainzes in his guns?

That's pretty shocking.

[AtheistCrusader]

2. Holy shit, I gotta keep an eye on the ones in my gun safe.

You never know...

(Actually, I think the magpul mags are crap, they don't fit in every mainstream AR, ask me how I know...)

[villager]

3. Thanks for reminding us just how widespread the sickness is

n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

21. ...........

[WorseBeforeBetter]

33. It is a sickness.

What comes to mind are those fat-ass losers who stood their ground at the Newtown Starbucks with their strap-ons. Or those Texas assholes attempting to intimidate pro-sane gun control women while they were dining at a mall restaurant. Tough guys (and gals), one and all.

God Bless America. And fuck you, NRA, for decades of brainwashing.

[shedevil69taz]

4. This just in

Firestone tires used by drunk drivers to murder hundreds of people every day.

[UpInArms]

5. what crap

- guns have one purpose - when used as directed, they maim or kill

your analogy doesn't work

[shedevil69taz]

7. The relevance of which magazines were used

is the same as which tires are on someone's vehicle when they drive drunk and hit someone. Magazines have several popular manufactures, as do tires, a firearm functions about as well in its intended purpose without a magazine as a car does without tires.

[AtheistCrusader]

11. Holy shit, all my guns are broken.

Well, except the one used by the US Army on some Germans. That one apparently worked as 'intended'.

[DallasNE]

8. That Makes No Sense

And not for just the deflection you are attempting here with your irreverence.

[ZRT2209]

15. full ignore

[snooper2]

32. Is there a way to do parital ignore?

I haven't figured out that trick yet

[Tommy_Carcetti]

22. Yeah! "Cars equal guns".

Again.

[mikeysnot]

27. But it makes sense to gun nuts.

...

[onehandle]

6. Another Victory For American Gun Nuts! nt

[SoCalMusicLover]

9. Swimming Pools Kill More People......

I just wanted to be the first to get that in here.

And a hearty thank you to the person who mentioned Firestone tires. That's a very sound idea, proposing the elimination of all forms of vehicle transportation in the country. That would certainly not cause any troubles in this country, although the limitation of guns ABSOLUTELY would.

[CTyankee]

13. Oh, joy! I've been waiting for the swimming pool thingie!

It's so great!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. Yeah! "Swimming pools equal guns."

Again.

[shedevil69taz]

10. ctrl+f

doesn't seem to be working correctly on my work computer...

[Duckhunter935]

12. see you are not getting the responce you wanted

The tire analogy is correct. Magpul are just a very popular magazine sold in the millions. I prefer USGI 20 round myself but they all must be defective as they have not murdered anyone in years of shooting.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

24. Yeah! "Cars equal guns."

Again.

[madeline_con]

25. But but if they'd succeeded in banning the magazine, and the company moved

to another state, leaving its employees in the lurch, the batshit crazy shooter wouldn't have gone on a murderous rampage! Don't you understand ANYTHING?!!!

[mbperrin]

16. Hmmm, drug dealers threaten to leave my state if we don't ease up on them?

I'd say the same to them as to these bozos: don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

Wonder if we can get rapists to threaten to leave?

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. You mentioned a brand: gunner shitheads drool over such shit

[Tommy_Carcetti]

42. Come on now, you don't really think--*looks over thread responses*--holy shit, you're right. nt

[mountain grammy]

18. I wish they'd hurry up and leave.

I'm sorry for those who will lose jobs, but, I'm sickened that the bullets that murdered and maimed these children were made in my state.
What happened in Sandy Hook is grotesque and horrendous. These weapons should be banned in the civilian population.

[hack89]

19. Colorado wants them to stay - they like the blood money.

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How more hypocritical can you get - they ban possession by people that live in Colorado but specifically say that making them in Colorado for people that live in other states is perfectly fine. I guess their lives aren't as important.

[mountain grammy]

20. Unlike marijuana. Legal in Colorado but not for export to other states..

because, you know, freedom!

[madeline_con]

26. If only they weren't made in CO, insane people wouldn't snap. n/t

[mountain grammy]

28. If only they weren't made anywhere, insane people could snap without murdering

a class of first graders.

[madeline_con]

30. They'd kill them with non "asssault" firearms. n/t

[mountain grammy]

31. It's hard to answer a thoughtless, callous response like yours, but here goes:

get your head out of your ass and try to imagine these war scenes without an assault weapon. Nothing there! That's right! Twenty 6 year olds go home to their mommies..

[sir pball]

34. I can (not very enjoyably) imagine that "war scene" with my grandpa's 100-year old shotgun.

And based on how the Navy Yard shooting turned out, with that same type of arm, I can perfectly well conceive just as many dead children.

Now, if I imagine a country with single-payer healthcare that includes comprehensive psychological treatment along with the destigmatization of mental illness, I can imagine Adam Lanza (and James Holmes and Aaron Alexis and Jared Loughner) being securely confined and treated, and no piles of bodies. Too hard, though, innit?

(FTR I support magazine limits.)

[mountain grammy]

44. Lanza had wealthy parents who chose to buy war weapons with

a mentally disturbed son who had all the access in the world to health care.

[sir pball]

49. In WASP-ass Connecticut having a mentally ill child is a huge "failure". You do not seek care.

Missed that bit about destigmatization, eh? I grew up in that neck of the woods; speaking from direct experience, having it known one of your family members is being treated, let alone institutionalized, is unspeakably shameful.

The really rich quietly ship them away to "boarding school" or somesuch (after an ice pick up their noses, e.g. Rosemary Kennedy), but a family with less resources will just keep them shut in, even if the money is there for treatment. Nancy could never show her face at the country club otherwise.

[Lurks Often]

40. You don't understand do you

While I find the very thought of doing so obscene, I could have walked in there with a double barreled shotgun, like what Vice President Biden recommends for self defense, and killed as many or more people then that mentally disturbed little monster. And I know hundreds more people who could do the same.

[mountain grammy]

43. No, you don't understand! That's bullshit and you know it...

Do you think people would stand there while the shooter reloads 30 times? Get a grip!

[Lurks Often]

45. Your inability to recognize it doesn't make it untrue

and exactly who was going to stop him? He killed the adults first, leaving those poor children defenseless against an adult.

[hack89]

50. Just like Va Tech - oh wait

That shooter killed 32 students with two pistols. Explain to me why they were safer because there were no assault weapons used.

[madeline_con]

53. TY n/t

[S_B_Jackson]

52. No the bullets were not made in your state......

only the container which holds the bullets.

As for banning these weapons, can you explain how exactly "these weapons" are different from any other semi-automatic rifle which is available to the public? Is it just the looks that you object to?

[ileus]

29. Love my Pmags.

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They don't scratch my mag wells like my SS and Aluminum one tend to.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

41. I'm sure Adam did too. nt

[LionsTigersRedWings]

56. ..

Are you trying to compare ileus to Lanza??

[Tommy_Carcetti]

57. I don't give a fuck about Ileus.

And no.

But both appear quite fond of the AR-15.

[sir pball]

35. Completely pointless information. Magazines are fungible.

fun·gi·ble - adjective - 1. (of goods contracted for without an individual specimen being specified) able to replace or be replaced by another identical item; mutually interchangeable.

It's utterly, completely, totally, wholly and entirely irrelevant to any possible discussion exactly who made these magazines. It's just as (in)significant as who manufactured the ammunition.

I know Magpul is getting a lot of press over their tantrums, but this is purely gratuitous yellow journalism that's at best useless and and worst damaging - it comes off as petty and angry. Now, if you were to have said "Newtown Shooter used high-capacity magazines" you'd have said something worthy of discussion, and something I support FWIW.

[Paladin]

38. There's nothing fungible about Magpul's actions against Colorado Democrats.

But you knew that, didn't you?

[sir pball]

39. I never said they weren't a reprehensible company, and I don't support them.

Don't own any, wouldn't buy any, wouldn't defend them whatsoever. Wouldn't shed a tear if they went out of business tomorrow - but none of that changes the fact that it doesn't matter one iota that Lanza used their product as opposed to CProducts, H&K, or any other manufacturer. Say he chose Federal ammunition, should they be singled out?

I realize it's the report's job to go into exhaustive detail about trivia like that, but pulling it out as some example of something (how evil Magpul is? They are, but not for this - as if they had any influence on Lanza's pick) in the context of high-capacity magazine regulation* is at best silly and at worst counterproductively petty.

* - 5 rounds is fine by me.

edit - Lanza likely used at least some BP-sourced gasoline in his car to get to the school. BP is, of course, one of the vilest companies on earth. Should this be added to the list of evil they've abetted? Yes, I realize "gasoline isn't designed to kill" while high-cap mags are, point is that even though the company is hideous, how a person uses their product outside of their control shouldn't weigh on them regardless of how bad they may otherwise be.

[hack89]

51. Those same Dems that want Magpul's blood money

And specifically wrote the law so that high capacity magazines could still be manufactured in CO?

How hypocritical can you get - they are too dangerous for CO citizens to own but feel free to sell as many as you want to the other states, just keep the tax money flowing.

[Ranchemp.]

36. And water is wet.

What's your point?

[LionsTigersRedWings]

55. exactly.

what's the point?

[Aristus]

37. Hey! That's abridging my freedom to commit effortless mass-murder!

There's no freedom in this country anymore...

for the sarcasm-challenged...

[Blandocyte]

46. Guns, mags, necessary but not sufficient for mass shootings, I guess

Seems to also take a crazy person operating the gun.

After Newtown I started wondering about how to better protect society from murderous crazy people.

[locks]

47. Thank you for the post. Sorry I didn't see it

before I answered your post re Evie Hudak.

I find some of the posts here and in our Colorado local papers sickening trying to "excuse" and find "irrelevant" Magpul's and the gun lobbies' complete involvement in the killing of innocent people around our nation and the world. How are people designing, manufacturing, advertising, selling, arming wars, buying elected officials, and demonizing most of the rest of us who want to have sensible gun control able to look at themselves in the mirror and sleep at night?

[hunter]

54. Magpul must be proud. Maybe they can use it in their advertising.

Two out of three mass murderers use Magpul PMAGs!