Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:52 PM Dec 2013

Judges question need for Gitmo genital searches

Source: Judges question need for Gitmo genital searches

Judges question need for Gitmo genital searches
By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press | December 9, 2013 | Updated: December 9, 2013 1:22pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal appeals court judges Monday questioned whether the government has gone too far by searching the genital areas of Guantanamo detainees who want to meet with their lawyers.

"That's rather provocative and offensive, isn't it?" Judge Thomas Griffith asked a government lawyer at a hearing of a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Griffith, an appointee of President George W. Bush, added that the government has a "special obligation" to ensure that detainees' access to counsel is preserved.

Detainee lawyers say the searches began after prisoners were told they would have to travel from their resident camp to another site at the base to meet with or talk on the telephone with their lawyers. In July, U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth ordered the government to end the searches as they pertain to detainees' access to counsel. He concluded that the motivation for the searches was not to enhance security, as the government claims, but to deter the detainees' access to attorneys. Lawyers for some detainees say their clients are foregoing the meetings rather than subjecting themselves to searches they consider religiously and culturally abhorrent.

But the appeals court put Lamberth's decision on hold while the higher court took up the case.

Justice Department lawyer Edward Himmelfarb tried to put a good spin on the genital searches, saying it was like a TSA search at the airport.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Judges-question-need-for-Gitmo-genital-searches-5048188.php

10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Judges question need for Gitmo genital searches (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2013 OP
kick In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #1
And once again, the leading country in the free world... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #2
yeah, genital searches should be reserved for air travelers unblock Dec 2013 #3
Lets turn Edward Himmelfarb's statement around. Downwinder Dec 2013 #4
K&R libodem Dec 2013 #5
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2013 #6
If some heavily armed MP wants to fondle my privates Prisoner_Number_Six Dec 2013 #7
Please note, these tend to be CIRCUMCISED MALES happyslug Dec 2013 #8
I hear those old airline pornographic-screening machines are really cheap now. Festivito Dec 2013 #9
Judges question need for Gitmo underpants Dec 2013 #10

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
4. Lets turn Edward Himmelfarb's statement around.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:16 PM
Dec 2013

Is a TSA search at the airport like a genital search at Gitmo?

Prisoner_Number_Six

(15,676 posts)
7. If some heavily armed MP wants to fondle my privates
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:37 PM
Dec 2013

who am I to say "No"?

All I ask is a kiss before and a meal after...

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
8. Please note, these tend to be CIRCUMCISED MALES
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:04 PM
Dec 2013

Even BEFORE Islam, Arabs were know to circumcised their male children. This included Egypt, both Ancient and today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_(circumcision)

So what can you hide in a foreskin that barely covers the Penis head?

More then 80% of the males in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, United Arab Emirates, Yemen are Circumcised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision

Please note, most of the Prisoners are from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen or other country with ties to radical Sunni Islam.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
9. I hear those old airline pornographic-screening machines are really cheap now.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:12 PM
Dec 2013

They might even deliver to Guantanamo.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Judges question need for ...