Fresno County supervisors move to ban marijuana farms

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Source: Fresno Bee

Fresno County supervisors on Tuesday took the first step toward banning marijuana growing countywide, a move that angered medicinal pot users but thrilled Squaw Valley residents who said such farms were taking over the foothill hamlet.



Read more: http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/12/10/3659991/fresno-county-supervisors-move.html

[Jesus Malverde]

1. bump... nt

[davidpdx]

2. That's a tough one

The question is whether the law conflicts with the state law. I see California has medicinal and decriminalized laws.

So growing it would be illegal, but selling it (if you had the correct permit) would not.

I'd bet this one will be challenged in court.

[PumpkinAle]

3. Money and power talks

and will until suddenly someone with clout in Squaw Valley decides they want in on the pot business and then it will be a-ok.

[penndragon69]

4. I saw a report on "Dan Rather reports" (AXS TV).

About the problems being caused in California by runaway, unregulated POT FARMS
that are springing up all over California. Basically, they are Using millions of gallons of
water that is in short supply and spraying the pot with any and all chemicals to grow them
fast and prevent pests. So what if most of these chemicals cause cancer or nerve damage
to both the user and the grower, and pollute the rivers and drinking water of California.

What to do???

[rafeh1]

5. 4 things needed

1. legalize
2. inspect
3. certify
4. tax

[Major Nikon]

6. 5. Smoke

[KansDem]

7. 6. Share

[Eleanors38]

15. Holy Cow! You think? I heard you can't regulate till you legalize!

[reddread]

8. context, since the Bee wasnt interested in filling in the blanks

the biggest aspect of this pushback against 215 is the close relationship the Obama DOJ has cultivated with Sheriff Margaret Mims, who has spent a lot of time meeting with the money dangling feds who work for the guy who has made so many promises regarding marijuana prosecution/persecution in states that have legalized medical or recreational use.
talk about smoke.
the real joke regarding their "squaw valley resident concerns" is the historical and omnipresent cultivations that have and do take place in the hills of Fresno and neighboring counties between Fresno and Yosemite. I know someone who has been through the system, both illegal and justice, and lives up there towards Yosemite. The "authorized/connected" harvests receive not just safe conduct, but convoy protection from local LE on their way out of state.
Squaw Valley hillfolk have had people growing forever. In fact one famous example includes a protected criminal site with law enforcement high command relationships, untouched while filing complaints against startups. I believe this is mentioned in Mark Arax's "In my father's name".
The county supervisor board features a few radical nutjobs like Judy Case a "nurse" who objected to clean needle exchange.
Give that some thought. IF it doesnt blow your mind, you might be a conservative with no scientific objectivity.
She and another right winger are stepping down and will be replaced.
this measure was unanimous, but the timing may have been critical.
All I can say, is dont believe everything you read here, because nothing important regarding the real context of the situation
has been included.
Just a news release intended for people who dont know better.

[bemildred]

12. Yah, all the commercial players fear legalization, and lots and lots of people on the take

in those places with a history in the business, legal or not.

Once it's legal, it's a cheap commodity, a weed, no monopoly, no big bucks, no huge markups, any more.

[DeSwiss]

9. Back in the day, they didn't used to complain.

Before 1937 there were over 280 cannabis manufacturers in US.

- Yeah, that bottle was $5 which was mostly for the labor the heat and the bottle. According to the druggist's price book for 1936-37, the raw buds went for about $2 per pound (retail).



K&R

[reddread]

10. who remembers "Freedom"?

I remember the concept. long abandoned.

[DeSwiss]

11. Keep remembering until we hit the ''tipping point.''

- When we get there, it'll only take one small push. Then we get it all back. Our health too.

[Eleanors38]

16. Tinctures are supposed to be great for arthritis pain relief.

[DeSwiss]

17. /fixed

- Tinctures are supposed to be great for arthritis pain relief.

*Watermelon's Cannabis Conversion Recipes:

*Watermelon's point about heating cannabis is basically true. Particularly the part about over-heating. However, eating cannabis high in CBDs and CBNs is not only done, but is the preferred method of ingestion because heating significantly reduces the amount and effectiveness available of these these cancer-fighting and nervous-system repairing compounds.

Unlike THC-9, the primary cannabis precursor which can be converted into a number of different substances with heating and other methods of chemical reaction. This compound is secreted as resin in the female plants as it flowers.

However, CBDs and CBNs are found in the hemp plant (male cannabis plants) which has virtually no THC-9 in them, however, many strains have recently been hybridized to created high content CBD and CBN cannabis plants. The CBD and CBN compounds are found in the leaves, the stems and branches and even the roots. All of it can be eaten or juiced.

And what's best about it?, it's legal right now. Since there's no high to get, there's no cops to fend-off. Industrial hemp plants are treated as a food supplement by the feds, and therefore can be sold and used just like a bottle of Vitamin C.

[Dustlawyer]

13. I thought Conservatives were for "individual" rights? Too many busy bodies who

do this because they like inflicting pain and hardship on others. Is the crimminal element going to neighbors of pot farms, no they are going for the pot. It's also the 1st time I have heard the term "Rampant farming." Would they say the same thing to a winery, "you are using too much water!"

[reddread]

14. lowbrow bogus excuses, laughable, cryable next to what havoc dairies wreak

Considering how terrible (undrinkable/deadly) the water quality is just down the road at Lanare (from unrelated contaminants?) and in the town of Riverdale(from the dairies, doubtless) where dairies have bloomed in the last two decades. Considering how badly Ag interests want to increase their share of imported water supplies so they can sell it to Socal, while pumping groundwater beyond all imagining, DURING A DROUGHT?
They suddenly want to talk about water useage?
IF hypocrisy was lethal none of this could happen.