Nancy Pelosi Whips Dems On Budget Deal: 'Embrace The Suck'

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

CATHERINE THOMPSON – DECEMBER 12, 2013, 10:50 AM EST

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on Thursday reportedly whipped enough Democrats to "embrace the suck" and back the new budget agreement on the floor for the bill to pass.

“We need to get this off the table so we can go forward,” Pelosi said in a closed-door meeting of House Democrats, an anonymous source who was present told Politico.

Pelosi expressed disappointment that the budget agreement hammered out between Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) did not include an extension of unemployment benefits, but said it wasn't worth holding up the deal, according to Politico.

Instead the minority leader told the caucus there were better fights to pick and Democrats could focus on the "do-nothing GOP message" if they allowed the budget bill to move forward, the anonymous attendee told Politico.

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[Autumn]

1. Hell of a winning slogan for the Democrats. 'Embrace The Suck'

or considering we have been doing that for a while now mayhap it's just truth in advertising. way to motivate the base Get out there and vote.

[Plucketeer]

2. There's no perfect budget

But maybe her strategy is that with the GOP's discontent over the agreement, maybe it's better to let them look fractured and incoherent towards it.

[Autumn]

4. It's working out so well.

[L0oniX]

3. The unemployed voters will not "embrace the suck".

[TwilightGardener]

5. Fuck 'em. They're stealing up to 20% of my husband's retirement pay, with the

promise of restoring it when he turns 62--which of course means they're hoping he'll die before he can ever get it back. Fuckers, all of them.

[Autumn]

7. Don't feel up to embracing the suck huh?

Me neither.

[TwilightGardener]

8. I'd like them to put their suck somewhere where the sun doesn't shine.

[ancianita]

6. If it were just "the suck" for 8.4 million now on unemployment, hers wouldn't be such a shitty

stance. I can't see any positive outcome for Americans over this. Where are upcoming jobs bills that offset this cut.

I don't care if she's cut a deal to get future Republican votes, or gets her bills to a floor vote, whatever they are. And I don't care if this is just Pelosi's attempt to help Republican opponents' shitty bipartisan record with their voters back home. I don't care if it's some attempt to improve Congress' shitty approval ratings with conservatives.

What I'm angry to see from her is that the unjustly unemployed are to be abandoned just for the sake of "moving forward." She is more afraid of the appearance of do-nothingism than of fighting for millions upon millions of Americans.

[Penicilino]

9. TPM says Pelosi "reportedly" said "embrace the suck"

Translation : "we don't know if Pelosi really said that but we will get lots of clicks because if she did you should be outraged."

[DonViejo]

11. read the second paragraph of the OP and then

click the link contained therein. If you're gonna complain about accuracy, your complaint should at least be accurate.

[Penicilino]

14. You mean the paragraph that says this is a claim by an anonymous source?

If I were you, I wouldn't be asking anyone to read that paragraph. It doesn't help your case. Perhaps that is why you didn't explain why you found that paragraph awesome.

[DonViejo]

16. Clever attempt to dodge the issue but, seeing as you need it spelled out...

No, I mean the paragraph that reports Politico is the original source of the information;

“We need to get this off the table so we can go forward,” Pelosi said in a closed-door meeting of House Democrats, an anonymous source who was present told Politico.

Thus, provoking the TPM headline that someone else is reporting it.

[Penicilino]

17. Wrong. The "original" source is anonymous

Do you know what original means?

[DonViejo]

18. TPM's original source is Politico...

but please, do continue to split hairs in an effort to prove you are absolutely, positively correct in your orneriness. eom

[Penicilino]

20. TPM said this "reportedly" happened, regardless of whether Politico said it too

Did TPM not say this "reportedly" happened?

You just want to talk about anything but the weakness of the source (anonymous).

You keep pretending that I am saying Politico did not spread the weak report before TPM did. I didn't mention Politico at all.

[DonViejo]

21. Bull shit. You didn't ask me what I thought of Politico's source,

just made a wild eyed allegation that I didn't want to talk about it. You're correct, the source is weak, as in very, very weak. Feel better now that I answered your unasked question?

[Penicilino]

23. Perfect. TPM spread a weak report

And we both agree.

TPM is hereby advised to engage in sold journalism, not just "another website said that an unknown dude or gal said."

And no, Politico didn't provoke them to repost the allegation. TPM choose to. And they are getting many clicks by people who believe the source, as in this thread.

[pinboy3niner]

28. Pelosi confirmed that she said it

Pelosi to Democrats on budget deal: 'Embrace the suck'
December 12th, 2013

(CNN) - House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi told her caucus in a meeting Wednesday to "embrace the suck" over a bipartisan budget deal reached earlier this week that the House is set to vote on Thursday evening.

...


Pelosi said she borrowed the phrase from Democratic former Rep. Patrick Murphy of Pennsylvania, who once recounted his time in Iraq to members of Congress, telling them what it was like to lead a unit, to walk around, carry a 40-pound pack in 130 degrees, and not be able to shower in a month.

...


http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/12/nancy-pelosi-budget-deal-immigration/

[Arkana]

10. Funny and depressing. "Embrace the suck".

That'll get the vote out in 2014.

[leftyohiolib]

25. there's an election slogan "embrace the suck cause it wont get better"

[durablend]

26. "Well who else you gonna vote for?" SNICKER...SNORT! n/t

[Nite Owl]

13. Just another version

Of 'we'll fix it later'.

[DCBob]

15. This means its a done deal.

If both Boehner and Pelosi are pushing it then they got the votes.

[Gothmog]

19. This is a bad deal but it is the best that can be expected while the GOP controls the House

The only way to get better deals is do vote out the GOP and get control of the House

[Veilex]

22. There are certainly parts of this I don't like...

but I have to admit, there are parts I do as well.
Here's a link to the summery of changes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/budget-deal-paul-ryan-patty-murray-sequester-mini-bargain

[leftyohiolib]

24. hey nancy the budget deal is off the table like bush's impeachment

[JDPriestly]

27. If any DUers are wondering why so many people think that Democrats and Republicans are just the

same really and that voting one way or the other doesn't make much difference, "embrace the suck" because "embrace the suck" is why. And even if she really didn't use those words, that is what she meant.

Congress is mostly made up of extremely rich people who pretend to represent different interests, ideas and constituencies. But the fact is they are all financially comfortable. They may lose their jobs, and they fear that. But even if they lose their jobs, they will not have to rely entirely on the slim checks issued by the Unemployment Insurance Dept. in their states. They all have money to fall back on in crises. So what do they really understand or care about the long-term unemployed?

What a cruel budget. Why not leave off a few of the tax breaks that the corporations get?

Why not increase the minimum wage, shift the cost of providing for the basic needs of the poorly paid to their employers and thereby remove a few people from the list of those who need government assistance to survive? People who work for wealthy employers who underpay the people whose labor makes the profits of those same wealthy employers should be able to survive with their families on what they earn. If the employer cannot pay the employees wages that permit the employees to live without government assistance, the employer needs to review his business model.

Low wages create a vicious cycle of lower and lower wages as the people earning low wages must struggle to find goods and services they can afford with their low wages. The incentive to produce decreases as does production and we all end up in the dumpster while more egalitarian societies that provide higher wages for employees do better. When will they ever learn or just figure it out?

If you want your garden to flourish, you have to fertilize. You can use organic fertilizers like just burying your vegetable garbage under the earth, but you need to feed even the earth to get good food.

Yet some employers do not pay their employees enough for the employees to eat healthy food. What are they thinking? The last thing we should cut are the basic income sources for people like Social Security, welfare, SSI and unemployment. The sums paid for those programs are minimal to begin with.

I understand we are again ratcheting up our military budget. What are we thinking?

[bitchkitty]

29. I don't believe she said that.

She might have meant it, since the bill does suck, but I don't believe she put it in those terms. Reportedly said? Do they have video?

[pinboy3niner]

30. Pelosi confirmed that she said it (see #28). nt

[bitchkitty]

31. I stand corrected.

Interesting choice of words. I'm sure that there will be much poutrage over it.

[marshall]

32. Somebody has got to keep it real

After several years of being told platitudes like "If you like your insurance plan you can keep it--period," I think Americans are going to appreciate some brutal honesty. We have to start living in reality.

[yurbud]

33. Democrats should always be that honest when they make a shitty deal

I hate it when they give us a hat full of shit and try to tell if its a chocolate cake.

they don't do that as well as Republicans anyway so there's no point in trying.

[Owl]

34. Well ain't that lovely.