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Judi Lynn

(160,513 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:32 PM Dec 2013

‘They just wanted to ruin my head’: Records show Army lobotomized 2,000 WW2 vets

Source: Raw Story

‘They just wanted to ruin my head’: Records show Army lobotomized 2,000 WW2 vets
By Arturo Garcia
Thursday, December 12, 2013 21:03 EST

Newly uncovered documents show the U.S. Army embraced frontal lobotomy as a way to treat at least 2,000 troops in the aftermath of World War II, the Wall Street Journal reported.

“They just wanted to ruin my head, it seemed to me,” one veteran, Roman Tritz, told the Journal. “Somebody wanted to.”

Tritz, now 90 years old, told the Journal he was forcibly lobotomized on July 1, 1953, after resisting previous attempts. Though the Department of Veterans Affairs has no record of the procedures taking place, the Journal cited government records, inter-office correspondence and letters in reporting that they took place at VA facilities around the country to treat troops who were identified as gay, along with those diagnosed with schizophrenia, depression and psychosis. The records show the bulk of the procedures were carried out between April 1947 and September 1950.

The Journal reported that VA head Frank Hines approved the use of lobotomies in July 1943, two years before he was replaced at the position by President Harry Truman. The chief proponent of the procedure — which involved driving an ice pick-like instrument through the patient’s eye socket — was neurologist Walter J. Freeman, despite objections from other VA medical professionals; one psychiatrist reportedly accused Freeman of wanting to employ lobotomies to treat “practically everything from delinquency to a pain in the neck.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/they-just-wanted-to-ruin-my-head-records-show-army-lobotomized-2000-ww2-vets/

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‘They just wanted to ruin my head’: Records show Army lobotomized 2,000 WW2 vets (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2013 OP
Sick, twisted shit geomon666 Dec 2013 #1
It's an incredible report at the WSJ Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #2
Remarkable article. So well done. Thank you for providing it. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2013 #7
There are no words Demeter Dec 2013 #3
this shit isn't any better than the nazis and their so-called medical experiments frylock Dec 2013 #4
Not to mention.... ReRe Dec 2013 #12
It's no big secret that in the closing days of WWII Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #18
Operation: Paperclip frylock Dec 2013 #20
In 1936, psychiatrist Walter Freeman... Javaman Dec 2013 #5
There was a really creepy horror film about the procedure closeupready Dec 2013 #9
There was a creepy real-life documentary about the procedure Ratty Dec 2013 #16
Thanks, I'll look for it on Netflix. BTW, "Session 9" is the title closeupready Dec 2013 #17
Agreed. That was a good one. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #27
a measure of the desperation that mental illness can cause. mopinko Dec 2013 #6
WTF is this bullshit? blackspade Dec 2013 #8
"ice pick-like instrument through the patient’s eye socket " tblue Dec 2013 #10
The depths of our government's depravity...... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #11
Project MKUltra too u4ic Dec 2013 #22
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2013 #13
Unbelievable! Delphinus Dec 2013 #14
Can't even finish reading the description of the procedure. Alkene Dec 2013 #15
Wow! Mind boggling sick! bobGandolf Dec 2013 #19
It was considered a viable medical procedure at the time and Lurks Often Dec 2013 #21
I often wonder u4ic Dec 2013 #23
Yup, relatively speaking, it wasn't that long ago that "doctors" bled people Lurks Often Dec 2013 #24
leeches are making a comeback u4ic Dec 2013 #25
That is one way to treat PTSD. Our government is not who we grew up believing they were. olddad56 Dec 2013 #26
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. There are no words
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:45 PM
Dec 2013

And it goes on still. Mind control is the ultimate goal of far too many psychopathic personalities in power.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. It's no big secret that in the closing days of WWII
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:10 PM
Dec 2013

there was a huge race with the USA and USSR to secure all the surviving Nazi scientists and their research...The Nazis were very meticulous record keepers of any and everything they experimented on...

Supposedly the OSS/CIA adapted wholesale the "book" of Nazi interrogation techniques....

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
5. In 1936, psychiatrist Walter Freeman...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:53 PM
Dec 2013

and another neurosurgeon performed the first U.S. prefrontal lobotomy on a Kansas housewife. (Freeman renamed it “lobotomy.”)

Freeman believed that an overload of emotions led to mental illness and “that cutting certain nerves in the brain could eliminate excess emotion and stabilize a personality,” according to a National Public Radio article.

He wanted to find a more efficient way to perform the procedure without drilling into a person’s head like Moniz did. So he created the 10-minute transorbital lobotomy (known as the “ice-pick” lobotomy), which was first performed at his Washington, D.C. office on January 17, 1946.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2011/03/21/the-surprising-history-of-the-lobotomy/

Walter Freeman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Jackson_Freeman_II

After almost ten years of performing lobotomies Freeman heard of a doctor in Italy named Amarro Fiamberti who operated on the brain through his patients’ eye sockets, allowing him to access the brain without drilling through the skull.[6] After experimenting with novel ways of performing these brain surgeries, Freeman formulated a new procedure called the transorbital lobotomy.[6] This new procedure became known as the icepick lobotomy and was performed by inserting a metal pick into the corner of each eye-socket and moving it back and forth, severing the connections to the prefrontal cortex in the frontal lobes of the brain.[7] He performed the transorbital lobotomy surgery for the first time in Washington D.C. on a housewife named Sallie Ellen Ionesco.[6] This transorbital lobotomy method did not require a neurosurgeon and could be performed outside of an operating room without the use of anesthesia by using electroconvulsive therapy to induce seizure.[7] The modifications to his lobotomy allowed Freeman to broaden the use of the surgery, which could be performed in state mental hospitals throughout the United States that were overpopulated and understaffed.[7] In 1950 Walter Freeman’s longtime partner James Watts left their practice and split from Freeman due to his opposition to the cruelty and overuse of the transorbital lobotomy.[6]

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. There was a really creepy horror film about the procedure
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:19 AM
Dec 2013

or, the procedure played a part in the background to the story - what was the name, "Tape 9" or something '9'. Starring the sunglass guy from CSI: Miami.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
16. There was a creepy real-life documentary about the procedure
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:15 PM
Dec 2013

Shame I can't remember the title. I couldn't believe it. An entire chapter of our history I was completely unaware of. For a time it wasn't a rare procedure. Parents had it done to their own teenaged children who they deemed troublesome, depressed or hyperactive. They interviewed a few of them as adults. Heartbreaking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy#Prevalence

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. Thanks, I'll look for it on Netflix. BTW, "Session 9" is the title
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:24 PM
Dec 2013

of the horror film - with David Caruso. A very under-rated haunted house film.

mopinko

(70,068 posts)
6. a measure of the desperation that mental illness can cause.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:22 PM
Dec 2013

what a cruel twist for these vets. not sure they get that much better care these days, tho.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. The depths of our government's depravity......
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:52 AM
Dec 2013

...goes much, much deeper. There will be more and more revelations coming. This is just the beginning. When the OSS (the agency that would later become the CIA) instituted Operation Paperclip, the US government simply transferred Hitler's henchmen and mad scientists from Germany to America. They only sent the known and the obvious criminals and madmen to Nuremberg. The rest we kept for ourselves so the Soviets couldn't have them.

And they didn't miss a beat.

- It. Will. All. Come. Out.

K&R

The St Louis Experiments

Unethical Human Experimentation In The United States

Nazi Style Human Experimentation By U.S. Government

Government Secret Experiments

Alkene

(752 posts)
15. Can't even finish reading the description of the procedure.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:31 AM
Dec 2013

Horrific.

Good thing behavior health and treatment of vets has improved so much since then.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
21. It was considered a viable medical procedure at the time and
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:13 PM
Dec 2013

it wasn't until the advent of anti-psychotic meds that the procedure disappeared.













u4ic

(17,101 posts)
23. I often wonder
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:14 PM
Dec 2013

what current medical procedures will be looked upon in 50 years time as barbaric. Mastectomies come to mind.

u4ic

(17,101 posts)
25. leeches are making a comeback
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:51 PM
Dec 2013

They're helpful for certain surgical wounds IIRC.

Mercury was used for syphilis. I'm sure we can find many more examples that make us go or .

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