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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:50 PM Dec 2013

Google removes privacy feature from Android mobile software

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Google Inc has removed an experimental privacy feature from its Android mobile software that had allowed users to block apps from collecting personal information such as address book data and a user's location.

The change means that owners of smartphones using Android 4.4.2, the latest version of the world's most popular operating system for mobile devices released this week, must provide access to their personal data in order to use certain apps.

A company spokesman said the feature had been included by accident in Android 4.3, the version released last summer.

"We are suspicious of this explanation, and do not think that it in any way justifies removing the feature rather than improving it," said Peter Eckersley, technology projects director at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The digital rights website first publicized the change in a blog post on Friday.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-google-android-idUSBRE9BC0YO20131213



That free Android phone you got at 7-eleven is watching and tracking you.

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Google removes privacy feature from Android mobile software (Original Post) onehandle Dec 2013 OP
This should have been a no brainer Mosaic Dec 2013 #1
What nation do you live in, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #2
If we don't reign in the police state Mosaic Dec 2013 #3
There is no police state here, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #5
you are mistaken . astral Dec 2013 #7
I have the right to steal everything my neighbor owns, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #12
+10 (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2013 #21
I did not mean to argue semantics here, astral Dec 2013 #25
I am very sorry but i dont hit your latest breaking news very often astral Dec 2013 #26
Ok, then don't argue semantics nt Progressive dog Dec 2013 #28
Where do you live that government employees are exempt Progressive dog Dec 2013 #19
You are naive .. sendero Dec 2013 #10
Maybe foreign countries have a different definition of police state, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #11
Your opinion indicates a variety of possibilities Android3.14 Dec 2013 #14
Yes the possibilities range from Progressive dog Dec 2013 #15
+100 (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2013 #22
Actually, AT&T wants you to PAY to avoid tracking. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #18
Here you go dog Mosaic Dec 2013 #24
+10 (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2013 #20
I agree, Mosaic. And I haven't opened a gmail account because of it, even though I was about to. loudsue Dec 2013 #4
It is all about the money as many say Mosaic Dec 2013 #23
yup Skittles Dec 2013 #6
Agreed... defacto7 Dec 2013 #8
"Ha Ha. Do be evil." - Google (R) Berlum Dec 2013 #9
There is money involved. jsr Dec 2013 #13
Damnit. TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #16
Google and Facebook didn't get rich off user privacy. jsr Dec 2013 #17
No Android, IOS or Windows phone here IDemo Dec 2013 #27
iPhone and Android use the same privacy model. Xithras Dec 2013 #29

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
1. This should have been a no brainer
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:58 PM
Dec 2013

Don't trust google for anything, don't trust smartphones for anything, and don't trust apps for anything. I hate to see so many fellow citizens become suckers for our totalitarian lost nation. Is there hope, sure, but be sure negativity sells, on all forms of media, and we must not let it overwhelm us.

Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
2. What nation do you live in,
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:12 PM
Dec 2013

since no Americans could be uninformed enough to believe they live in a totalitarian nation. I don't think it is lost either.

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
3. If we don't reign in the police state
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:50 PM
Dec 2013

And all the software that is tracking everyone who is a victim to it, we're pretty darn close. A nearly universal corporate media is also a big warning sign. I read a lot, too much maybe, and I know the multitudes of ways how we are, sadly, nearly lost, just nearly.

Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
5. There is no police state here,
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:25 AM
Dec 2013

but I live in the USA. I have heard over and over about the ability to track, that does not equate to actually tracking. You can easily opt out of any possibility of police tracking your cell phone by just turning it off. Then there is no possibility that it can be tracked. That is pretty simple. The NSA are not police, they are not allowed to track US citizens.
No matter where you live, you have to interact with others and information about you is going to be stored. This is in addition to the information that many share on social media. That does not make a police state.

 

astral

(2,531 posts)
7. you are mistaken .
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 03:38 AM
Dec 2013

The NSA does have the right to track us because we cant stop them. Or else, we GAVE them that right bc we were TOLD about it and we didnt stop them. at least not yet. Sure, cellphones make it easier but technology comes from many other angles these days. ''Total informaltion awareness'' is upon us and getting tighter every day. But you do have the right to keep your head in the sand if U want to. You live in a free country.

Start here and go down the rabbit hole yourself. Remember to take your red pill first.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office


Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
12. I have the right to steal everything my neighbor owns,
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 09:09 AM
Dec 2013

if he is not at home to stop me. That is the exact reasoning that you are using.
The law does not allow the NSA to track Americans. There are law breakers in the NSA, (Snowden is one example), but that does not equal total information awareness.
Why the hell would the NSA even want information on everyone? That's a rhetorical question and shouldn't need a silly meaningless phrase as an answer.
Which children's book did you get the red pill and rabbit hole from and is that where you got your knowledge of the US main spy agency from?

 

astral

(2,531 posts)
25. I did not mean to argue semantics here,
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 04:03 PM
Dec 2013

They are doing it, 'right' or no 'right.' its all over the news they have ADMITTED it. Only on around Dec 15 a federal judge ruled it wrong, but there has been no announcement yet that they are stopping it. This is a war in progress, very public. This is the America we live in today, wake up and smell the roses we are losing our right to privacy in EVERY facet of our lives and at a very rapid pace.

I am editing this post only to add the link below, whicy may bring you to many other links, it is totally up to you at this point to figure out whether I am a paranoid liar or not, I can only lead a horse to water. I have started seeing the specifics of how deep it really goes already only recently and am still a bit shell-shocked myself.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/12/2013-year-nsas-collect-it-all-strategy-was-revealed

I was trying to copy and paste an excerpt but I cant figure out how to do it on this stupid tablet. Basically is states exactly what I already said, they are tracking everybody's everything, and it is up to us to put a stop to it or not.

 

astral

(2,531 posts)
26. I am very sorry but i dont hit your latest breaking news very often
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 04:40 PM
Dec 2013

a ruling has occurred.

Judge Rules NSA Phone Surveillance is Lawful in Case Filed by ACLU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=682828

Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
19. Where do you live that government employees are exempt
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:25 PM
Dec 2013

from obeying the law? Certainly you do not live in the USA. I'm trying top figure how a free country and a police state are the same. Could you show me another free country that you imagine is a spying state?
BTW None of the paranoids will tell me which children's book they got the rabbit hole and red pills from. If I'm going to take them, I need to know where you get them.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
10. You are naive ..
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 08:44 AM
Dec 2013

... beyond belief and at some time in the future you will wonder why you were so dumb.

Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
11. Maybe foreign countries have a different definition of police state,
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 08:55 AM
Dec 2013

but if you are an American, you are in a very, very small minority. I would bet that more Americans believe the earth is flat.
If you gave me your definition of police state, then there would be something to mock (whoops, meant to discuss).

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
14. Your opinion indicates a variety of possibilities
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:43 AM
Dec 2013

Except, of course, that a police state is nonexistent in the United States. Anyone with the merest ability to think and observe critically recognizes we have a police state, the tools for a regressive police state, and leaders who are advancing the powers of a police state.
A police state has many characteristics and exists on a spectrum. N. Korea is near the far end of that spectrum and the United States near the other end, but it is still on that spectrum.
It's an iron fist in a velvet glove.
In a lab setting, I'd just advise you to keep poking the happy button in your cage,P-dog.
Anyone who appears incapable of recognizing the police state is either a sucker, lying, congenitally ignorant or willfully ignorant. The only reason the police state doesn't go after you is because you are part of it or are inconsequential to it.

Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
15. Yes the possibilities range from
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:31 AM
Dec 2013

people who believe the USA is a police state being paranoid Americans to being America hating foreigners.
I can think of no other options.
America is one of the freest states in the world. We've had trial by jury since our founding. We have a written bill of rights since our founding. I assume you know this and that to you all states are police states. That sounds as if you are toward the anarchist side of libertarianism. I thought libertarian anarchists were not usually Democrats.

You can hide in your cave from the NSA if you like, I don't intend to.


dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. Actually, AT&T wants you to PAY to avoid tracking.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:03 PM
Dec 2013
`What's one piece of your privacy worth? About a dollar a day, suggests telecom giant AT&T.

The company's latest internet service offering in Austin, Texas comes in two flavors.
The company might as well call them the "some privacy" and "no privacy" services.
The cheaper version gives customers a discount in return for being targeted more intrusively than ever by user-specific advertising.


More details here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024176653

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
4. I agree, Mosaic. And I haven't opened a gmail account because of it, even though I was about to.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:24 AM
Dec 2013

Have you read the user agreement on that sucker? It's long, but it sure says a LOT about what they intend to do with your private information.

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
23. It is all about the money as many say
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:30 PM
Dec 2013

We should always remember the Snowden revelations, and realize that this goes further than profiting off people's data. I'll say it once more, we're too darn close in this country to a totalitarian Orwellian big brother society and we must get off our butts and do something, our representatives must do something. This is no joke.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
6. yup
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 01:14 AM
Dec 2013

facebook, Twitter, "smart phones" - they love it all, then complain about loss of privacy.....idiots

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
8. Agreed...
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:12 AM
Dec 2013

People walk blindly into a "garden of delights" and have no idea what they are doing or what future they are buying. Wise up people.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
27. No Android, IOS or Windows phone here
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
Dec 2013

My Java-based feature phone does everything I need with no monthly rates or contracts.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
29. iPhone and Android use the same privacy model.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:44 AM
Dec 2013

When an app is installed that wants to access your personal data, that data is listed out and you can either approve it or deny it. The new tool was neat because it allowed you to be more selective, but it could only be accessed by a third party app and was used by practically nobody.

I have to say that this is a pretty funny post though. Apple fans attacking Google because they reduced their privacy settings to "only" be equal to Apple's.

It's all about using your head and taking a bit of personal responsibility. If you don't want an app to access your personal information, Don't click OK when the app asks for it!

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