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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:46 PM Dec 2013

Flying Spaghetti Monster joins crowded holiday display at Wisconsin State Capitol

Source: Raw Story

A college atheist group has set up a Flying Spaghetti Monster display at the Wisconsin State Capitol to make a point about religious expression on public property.

The Atheists, Humanists, and Agnostics group at the University of Wisconsin set up the satirical religious display alongside a “Festivus” pole and a “Winter Solstice Nativity” scene featuring Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein and Mark Twain that was set up by the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

“The rotunda is getting very cluttered,” said Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation. “But if a devotional nativity display is allowed, then there must be ‘room at the inn’ for all points of view, including irreverency and free thought.”

The secular displays join traditional Christmas items such as a 30-foot balsam fir tree encircled by a toy train set, and they have been part of the capitol holiday displays since a 1984 lawsuit failed to remove the Capitol Christmas tree, halt a menorah lighting and end an annual nativity pageant.



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/17/flying-spaghetti-monster-joins-crowded-holiday-display-at-wisconsin-state-capitol/

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Flying Spaghetti Monster joins crowded holiday display at Wisconsin State Capitol (Original Post) IDemo Dec 2013 OP
K&R. WOOHOO! GO PASTAFARIANS! trof Dec 2013 #1
Yay! All hail the FSM! NastyRiffraff Dec 2013 #2
Love it! HockeyMom Dec 2013 #3
Good Job... Grassy Knoll Dec 2013 #4
Bless You PeoViejo Dec 2013 #5
LOL... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2013 #23
Win-Win: Atheists get to giggle and snark, while Goddies get to reinforce their persecution complex alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #6
All part of the War on Baked Ham n/t IDemo Dec 2013 #11
He boiled for your sins... countryjake Dec 2013 #7
On a side note: 1000words Dec 2013 #22
Yes, I think so, too. Wisconsin & Connecticut have the neatest capitols. countryjake Dec 2013 #41
Look closely at that photo, at the point directly across from the FSM plaque. Jim Lane Dec 2013 #38
I hadn't noticed that... countryjake Dec 2013 #39
Putting the FSM back in Chrifsmas! rdharma Dec 2013 #8
FSM is the Reason for the Seasoning! RushIsRot Dec 2013 #47
... CrispyQ Dec 2013 #48
My Flying Spaghetti Monster has FOUR meatballs, not two! Hissyspit Dec 2013 #9
Blaspheme!!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #13
Apostate PeoViejo Dec 2013 #15
That's A-PASTA-ATE to YOU! rocktivity Dec 2013 #17
Ah, an adherent of Grammarnaziafarianism. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #19
That's Grammar-nazi-PASTA-farianism to YOU! rocktivity Dec 2013 #40
Hmm, do grammarnazipastafarians only worship two meatballs? Hissyspit Dec 2013 #43
You get 50% more breads with 4 meatballs, but 100% fewer breads with 1 meatsball. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #52
DUzy subthread! klook Dec 2013 #29
He is delicious! idwiyo Dec 2013 #10
Megan Kelley says FSM is covered with white alfredo. nt rdharma Dec 2013 #12
You win one internets. n/t eggplant Dec 2013 #24
... CrispyQ Dec 2013 #49
May you be touched by his noodly appendage Politicub Dec 2013 #14
Ramen! 1000words Dec 2013 #18
Actually that won't help at all. zeemike Dec 2013 #16
Protest of what? jberryhill Dec 2013 #31
Religious displays in government. zeemike Dec 2013 #32
I think you may be missing the point jberryhill Dec 2013 #33
Well Muslims do, and so do Satanist. zeemike Dec 2013 #34
Joke religion? 1000words Dec 2013 #36
Pastafarian Persecution! Hissyspit Dec 2013 #37
You're not fooling me for a minute. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #20
Marco Polo! Hissyspit Dec 2013 #44
Methinks WalMart. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #51
That'll feed people, clothe children, and create jobs. nt onehandle Dec 2013 #21
People can eat the baby Jesus Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #45
I love it! Almost makes me want to freeze my a** off in Wisconsin :) WowSeriously Dec 2013 #25
Blessings on his noodlely appendages! yellowcanine Dec 2013 #26
Merry Noodlemas!! mdbl Dec 2013 #27
RAMEN! RoccoR5955 Dec 2013 #28
I actually like the Satanists approach better. painesghost Dec 2013 #30
I have a feeling that most people have no idea what Satanism is Trajan Dec 2013 #53
I wasn't talking about real Satanist, like the Church of Satan or Temple of Set. painesghost Dec 2013 #55
I much prefer this kind of inclusiveness to banning stuff (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #35
Me too n/t painesghost Dec 2013 #56
Ramen! Now it's getting fun! Hekate Dec 2013 #42
RAmen. K&R nt TBF Dec 2013 #46
About time! sinkingfeeling Dec 2013 #50
Juanita Jean predicted that the FSM would get its own celebration Gothmog Dec 2013 #54
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. Win-Win: Atheists get to giggle and snark, while Goddies get to reinforce their persecution complex
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:07 PM
Dec 2013

Everybody ends up happy.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
41. Yes, I think so, too. Wisconsin & Connecticut have the neatest capitols.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 04:49 AM
Dec 2013

At least, of all the capitol buildings I've been to, they do.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
38. Look closely at that photo, at the point directly across from the FSM plaque.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:28 AM
Dec 2013

Someone put up a statue, approximately half life-size, of the Invisible Pink Unicorn (bbhhh).

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
39. I hadn't noticed that...
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:39 AM
Dec 2013

I know that while I was reading about all the other displays at the capitol (the rotunda is becoming quite crowded), I saw a pole created out of stacked beer cans and was wondering what that signified.

Thanks for that link...who ever thought that she would end up getting her own wiki page. And in the capitol, too!

Too cool.

klook

(12,154 posts)
29. DUzy subthread!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:32 PM
Dec 2013

Pesto, marinara, clam sauce, or Alfredo - we are all touched by his noodley appendage.

Napasta.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
16. Actually that won't help at all.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:43 PM
Dec 2013

Sense it is a joke and all know it...so it will trivialize the genuine protest of it....IMO.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
32. Religious displays in government.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:37 PM
Dec 2013

To be effective you need other religions to make the point, like Buddhist, Hindu, or Muslim, not a joke religion.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. I think you may be missing the point
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:45 PM
Dec 2013

There is nothing wrong with religious displays in a public place, so long as any and all are permitted to do so - or none.

The group which insists on always having one is more likely to find a "joke religion" more offensive than an actual one, and then seek to have them all forbidden than a religion which might otherwise appear unseemly to attack.

Aside from which, there is no reason for those other actual religions to be seeking to have a display at this time of year, and it's not as if they have any desire to go out of their way to score a point.

If we are talking about permanent displays, such as the OK State Capitol grounds, then I'd see what you are saying, but Hindus for example have no particular motivation to seek temporary display space just because some other religion happens to be having a holiday.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
34. Well Muslims do, and so do Satanist.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:53 PM
Dec 2013

Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet and Satanist are the anti Christians.

But I disagree that a joke religion has more effect than a real one...Christians are not worried about a joke religion catching hold and stealing their members...and besides what does the FSM have to do with the birth of Jesus?

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
20. You're not fooling me for a minute.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:00 PM
Dec 2013

That's not the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That's a Flying Chow Mein Monster. There's a difference.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
45. People can eat the baby Jesus
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:58 AM
Dec 2013

Wear the three wise men's clothes, and there's jobs setting up the nativity scene and taking it down (not to mention jobs hunting down the baby Jesus when it's stolen).

Did you send your post from the same soup kitchen or are you volunteering at another one?

painesghost

(91 posts)
30. I actually like the Satanists approach better.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:32 PM
Dec 2013

Even staunch Christians can laugh off the FSM. Puting a statue of Satan up will actually make people furious and has a better chance of getting the removal of all religious symbols. That being said honestly a Nativity scene doesn't bother me if the same space is open to all people for displays, religious or non-religious. Although I do think it would get even more crowded even quicker.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
53. I have a feeling that most people have no idea what Satanism is
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:55 PM
Dec 2013

There is no red scaly demonic icon with pointy horns and a bifurcated tail, holding a pitchfork as he flashes fiery red eyes and stabs the world with a forked tongue ...

I recommend reading up on the subject

painesghost

(91 posts)
55. I wasn't talking about real Satanist, like the Church of Satan or Temple of Set.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 04:01 PM
Dec 2013

I was referring to a group of joke Satanists that was discussed in another thread that wanted to put a display of Satan in a park to force the State to adopt a secular policy for public spaces. They no more believe in Satan than Pastafarians actually believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
54. Juanita Jean predicted that the FSM would get its own celebration
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:10 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.juanitajean.com/2013/12/09/well-its-not-like-they-werent-begging-for-this/

Once the Oklahoma Lege approved putting the Ten Commandments on the grounds of the State Capitol, that opened the door big and wide for other “religions” to have tributes to their beliefs. The first to apply? The New York based Satanic Temple, of course.

They are submitting a plan for a $20,000 designs. The Ten Commandments tribute was only $10,000, the but Satanic one will include “an interactive display for children.” That alone caused three semi-serious cases of the heart flutters in Oklahoma and one suicide attempt.

And while I will enjoy this process, I think it would have been so much more fun if the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster had applied.

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