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mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:50 PM Jan 2014

‘Duct tape, wire nets’ were used to mend Fukushima water tanks - worker

Source: RT (TV network)



22:41 GMT, Jan 4, 2014


As TEPCO began preparations for the cleaning of the drainage system with tons of leaked radioactive water at the Fukushima power plant,a former employee reveals the reason for so many leaks was cost cutting measures such as using duct tape,Asahi reported.

Yoshitatsu Uechi, auto mechanic and tour-bus driver, worked at the devastated nuclear power plant between July 2 and Dec. 6, 2012, according to Asahi Shimbun report. He was one of the 17 workers from Okinawa Prefecture sent to work at the crippled nuclear plant in 2012 to create new places to store contaminated water.

The earthquake in March 2011 triggered a tsunami that hit Japan’s coast, damaging the Fukushima Daiichi plant. The catastrophe caused the meltdown of three nuclear reactors at the facility, leading to the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-radiation-water-leak-186/



Read more: http://rt.com/news/fukushima-radiation-water-leak-186/

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‘Duct tape, wire nets’ were used to mend Fukushima water tanks - worker (Original Post) mitty14u2 Jan 2014 OP
Canada Busted Covering Up Spikes In Fukushima Radiation mitty14u2 Jan 2014 #1
Duct Tape is a WONDERFUL thing..... GatorOrange Jan 2014 #2
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #3
Thank you for that. One of the places I have looked at is the jtuck004 Jan 2014 #5
From what I've seen debunkthis Jan 2014 #18
Thank you. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2014 #19
I wonder how it reacts with the mercury and other elements blowing over? jtuck004 Jan 2014 #4
I want to see another source on this. longship Jan 2014 #6
I do too. I don't mind RT so much but washingtonblogs is crap. OTOH.....Run Away!!!! NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #8
I watch RT on MHz Worldview on occasion. longship Jan 2014 #10
My impression is that RT is not an appropriate source from LBN davidpdx Jan 2014 #15
Probably not the USA. longship Jan 2014 #16
They did not learn from our mistakes, evidently: Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #7
It never stops does it? blackspade Jan 2014 #9
A super ditto! SoapBox Jan 2014 #11
Not even on DU Demeter Jan 2014 #12
That's good, Demeter RobertEarl Jan 2014 #28
Yes, but wind turbines are so unsightly. valerief Jan 2014 #13
I have no doubt that there are so serious problems at Fukushima davidpdx Jan 2014 #14
Fukushima Radiation a Serious Threat to North American Coast mitty14u2 Jan 2014 #17
I understand. But your source is not the Guardian in the UK. It is Liberty Voice of NV. As to the freshwest Jan 2014 #20
IAEA Fukushima Daiichi Status Reports mitty14u2 Jan 2014 #23
I am waiting for Turner Network to Annouce the first KAIJU attack yuiyoshida Jan 2014 #21
I'm not surprised heaven05 Jan 2014 #22
You have got to be shitting me Scairp Jan 2014 #24
All the brains in the world and no common sense! mitty14u2 Jan 2014 #25
Fukushima Govt. & Fukushima Medical University Signed Secrecy Pact With IAEA mitty14u2 Jan 2014 #26
Fukushima and our inability to gauge risk JohnyCanuck Jan 2014 #27

mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
1. Canada Busted Covering Up Spikes In Fukushima Radiation
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jan 2014

Falsely Stated That There Were No Unusual Radiation Levels
Update: The Canadian government also under-reported the amount of radioactive xenon by 6,000%.

The governments of Japan, America and Canada have covered up the severity of the Fukushima crisis ever since it started in March 2011.

They’ve cut way back on radiation monitoring after the Fukushima meltdown, underplayed the amount of radiation pumped out by Fukushima, and raised acceptable radiation levels … rather than fixing anything.

For example, Straight.com reports:



http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/canada-busted-lying-fukushima-radiation.html

GatorOrange

(63 posts)
2. Duct Tape is a WONDERFUL thing.....
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jan 2014

But not really the ideal repair adhesive for dealing with a freaking nuclear catastrophe!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
3. K&R
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:08 PM
Jan 2014
- The Japanese, Canadian and American governments are all acting criminally in failing to report the truth to their respective populations. Protect yourself, because no one else will:

Zeolite

DMSO

RADEX RD1503+ - Radiation Detector
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. Thank you for that. One of the places I have looked at is the
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:14 PM
Jan 2014

http://radiationnetwork.com/

where ordinary citizens can put up metering devices (quality undetermined, of course) and report them, for a fee.

It doesn't seem to show much, so I have to figure 1) If it's trustworthy 2) what they are actually monitoring

There are government sites, but it appears some of that stuff has been disappeared, perhaps under the "if you aren't measuring it it's not a problem" theory.

 

debunkthis

(99 posts)
18. From what I've seen
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:27 AM
Jan 2014

It appears that when they get an alert on the radiation network, they remove the node sending the alert. Here is another resource linked below which seems to be a bit more honest about the actual CPM, however I cannot say whether they are 100% accurate either. This is the problem when MSM does not do its job of open and honest reporting of the news, we are left to make our best guess based on our own research.

http://www.netc.com/

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. I watch RT on MHz Worldview on occasion.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jan 2014

They have their good points (Thom Hartmann) and some occasionally good primary coverage. But they also use a lot of fringe Blog sources which make me absolutely cringe.

These days I tune in only for entertainment value -- the chuckle factor -- not for any actual journalism.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. My impression is that RT is not an appropriate source from LBN
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jan 2014

In this instance I don't care because the situation at Fukushima needs more attention. We are going to be counting cancer clusters 10-20 years from now because of it.

longship

(40,416 posts)
16. Probably not the USA.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:16 PM
Jan 2014

There's a whole lot of misinformation being spewed out.

The problem is that in the absense of responsible journalism, the vacuum is being filled by people on the fringe who have an agenda and are not above just making shit up to portray Fukushima in the worse case.

The thing is, Fukushima is a very real disaster, but some of us who oppose nuclear energy are still shocked by the utter bullshit that appears online about it.

That does nobody any good. And TEPCO and the Japanese government are solely responsible for this situation. They tried to "save face" early on and now nobody will believe anything they say.

So the kooks have jumped into that vacuum, spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt to serve their anti-nuke agenda.

I also am against nuclear energy, but I think the actual facts alone make the case. No. The west coast of the North American continent is likely not in danger. And the Pacific Ocean is more in danger by climate change than Fukushima. But that is little comfort to the people in Japan who are dealing with a very large catastrophe.

The carping about sea stars (totally unconnected to Fukushima) pales in comparison. And wringing hands about putative radioactive plumes reaching the USA likewise.

Transparency and openness is the only solution.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. They did not learn from our mistakes, evidently:
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jan 2014

a disaster readiness program that advocated the use of duct tape to seal windows against poisons likewise did not encourage the public. - See more at: http://homelandsecurity.uslegal.com/terrorism/department-of-homeland-security/#sthash.4pM8ZhN6.dpuf

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
9. It never stops does it?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jan 2014

The lying, coverups, ridiculous denials all in the name of preserving the 'market' over actual people.
It all comes down to money, who makes it and who it is taken from.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
12. Not even on DU
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jan 2014

Especially with the "picky-picky" turning up of noses at "source sites".

As if truth were the province of only select, authorized and approved (by some form of divination, since most reputable sources have been caught in lies and evasions and neglect on multiple occasions...) websites, bloggers, and commercial news sources.

I use the cynic's method of verification. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If it violates one or more laws of physics, it's DEFINITELY bogus. And if somebody's making money off it, it's probably a scam.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
28. That's good, Demeter
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:09 AM
Jan 2014

And is why so many smart people can be polled and they state that they don't trust science so much.

I mean, c'mon... some bogus scam science told us nukes are safe.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. I have no doubt that there are so serious problems at Fukushima
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jan 2014

With the plant being close to the ocean many other countries are being endangered. Japan and the other countries need to come clean with what the hell is going on. Will 10-20 years from now we see higher rates of cancer in Japan, Canada, the US, and other countries because of this?

I just am glad I'm on the other side of it living in Korea. We still have to put up with the shitty pollution from China though.

mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
17. Fukushima Radiation a Serious Threat to North American Coast
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:01 PM
Jan 2014

The Turner Radio Network (TRN) has recently issued a report on the Fukushima radiation being a serious threat to the West Coast of North America and others in the entire northern hemisphere. The report calls for anyone residing on the west coast to immediately start preparations for another round of dangerous atmospheric radiation. The radiation is coming from Reactor 3 in Fukushima’s nuclear disaster site in Japan. The nuclear reactor was damaged in Japan’s 2011 earthquake and tsunami disaster.

Tokyo Electric and Power Company (TEPCO) have confirmed through surveillance cameras that steam has begun to rise out of the severely damaged Reactor 3. This is not the first time steam was observed escaping the facility, there were four sightings of steam rising since December 19th and other reports from back in July 2013.

TEPCO is uncertain what details surround the steam plumes or why the change occurred. They are unable to investigate further due to the lethal radiation levels in building 3.

Some nuclear experts are saying that the steam could signify the start of a spent fuel pool meltdown. Building 3 still contains 89 tons of nuclear fuel that could potentially burn up and head into the atmosphere for North America. After the earthquake, Fukushima had three reactor meltdowns roughly 60 hours after the earthquake as reactors 4, 5, and 6 were currently off-line for maintenance. Building 3 exploded a few days after the earthquake from a build up of hydrogen gas.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/fukushima-radiation-a-serious-threat-to-north-american-coast/

I just want the Truth, when Chernobyl went, it was on the air 24/7 for days with many follow up stories, Fukashima story went silent, the big boy media have been standing down, Why. Had to go out of the country to get information?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. I understand. But your source is not the Guardian in the UK. It is Liberty Voice of NV. As to the
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 03:44 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2014, 04:21 AM - Edit history (1)

Turner Radio Network. It is not related to Ted Turner, but Hal Turner. Here's the low down on them and him:

Harold Charles "Hal" Turner (born March 15, 1962) is an American white nationalist, Holocaust denier[1] and blogger from North Bergen, New Jersey. In August 2010, he was convicted for making threats against three federal judges with the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Prior to Turner's arrest, his radio program, The Hal Turner Show, was a webcast from his home once a week.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner

While he no longer controls the radio station from prison, he will be released next year and may start again. Many of their themes are as RWNJ as WND or Beck. Their news section has stories like these:

General Says "Extra-Constitutional Measures Needed" to Protect the Constitution from Obama?

16 Signs That “Global Warming” Was A Lie And That We Have Now Entered A Period Of Global Cooling

http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news

I listened to this station even while Turner was there and others like of it the Liberty and Patriot genre to see what was up because of the growth of Tea Party and Ron Paulers.

These sources are repugnant at DU. You might want to get with bananas to find better news sources for LBN.


mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
23. IAEA Fukushima Daiichi Status Reports
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jan 2014


TEPCO seems to be doing all the tests, I don’t think they can be trusted, to much depends on what they are saying or not saying, just like BP entwined in political power.

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2013/japan-basic-policy-full.html

I understand your point, I have never posted or follow Turner or the RWNJ as WND or Beck the Blaze or Breitbart for that matter or Fox the we are not real news stations. I wasn’t familiar with Turner, I used Google Canada “Fukashima” that story popped up.

I think we have a real world wide problem with this mess that’s not being reported on truthfully. I think the Japanese are being muffled in fear of arrest, one of those stories are government decides We Cant Handle the Truth! I was one of the first to get lambasted for posting Hans Blitz says Iraq does not have any WMD’s with the Bush administration Conspiracy to attack Iraq, Fukashima smells just as fishy with lack of news.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
24. You have got to be shitting me
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jan 2014

Duct tape? I love duct tape too but not to repair a tank filled with deadly radioactive water. This would be funny were it not so incredibly frightening. Nearly three years on and they still haven't figured out how to deal with this crisis. I thought the Japanese had become the innovators of the world. Guess not so much when it comes to nuclear power plants hit by a huge earthquake and a devastating tsunami. There must be some smart people in the world who could figure out a solution to this before it gets worse than it already is, but from things that I've read the Japanese have denied in the past the water was even leaking from those tanks and had rebuffed international help. I guess they don't get that the rest of the world is impacted by this. We are going to Hawaii this year and I have to wonder if we will all end up with weird cancers a couple of years later from swimming in contaminated ocean water that originated in Japan.

mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
25. All the brains in the world and no common sense!
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jan 2014


Timeline of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster

The ensuing tsunami crippled the site, stopped the Fukushima I (backup diesel generators, and caused a station blackout.) The subsequent lack of cooling led to explosions and meltdowns at the Fukushima I facility, with problems at three of the six reactors and in one of the six spent fuel pools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

When the tsunami came in it flooded the back up generators that caused the reactors to explode, WTF the Japanese never thought about tsunamis? the same thing happened in Louisiana hurricane, hospitas put generators in the basement and they flooded,WTF.

All the brains in the world and no common sense seems to happen more and more. They need to hire average people with tons of common sense to be overseers for the mentally challenged common-sense-less brainiacs.

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
27. Fukushima and our inability to gauge risk
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:12 PM
Jan 2014
by Kurt Cobb, Resource Insights Blog

snip

Nuclear power plants are one of the most complex systems ever devised by humans. Complex systems by their very nature have more failure points than simple systems. But this in and of itself is not the problem. Natural systems such as the ocean currents or a rainforest are exceedingly complex. But, they have been around for much longer and their processes have settled into much more predictable patterns. With nuclear power plants, we have little experience to go on in evaluating risks.

Man-made systems not only have much shorter histories to work from, but they can interact with natural systems in unpredictable ways. Recall what happened at the Fukushima nuclear plant: The tsunami was so high that it breached the plant's seawall, flooding emergency diesel generators located in basements, generators that were supposed to power pumps to cool the reactor core and fuel rods in the event of a power outage. Backup batteries for those pumps ran out of power within a day. And, that's when the trouble began that led to hydrogen explosions which damaged buildings--damage that ultimately compromised the fuel rod storage.

Let me quote from an earlier piece of mine, "Calculating calamity: Japan's nuclear accident and the 'antifragile' alternative":

Famed student of risk and probability and author of The Black Swan Nassim Nicholas Taleb tells us that in 2003 Japan's nuclear safety agency set as a goal that fatalities resulting from radiation exposure to civilians living near any nuclear installation in Japan should be no more than one every million years. Eight years after that goal was adopted, it looks like it will be exceeded and perhaps by quite a bit, especially now that radiation is showing up in food and water near the stricken Fukushima Dai-ichi plant. (Keep in mind that "fatalities" refers not just to immediate deaths but also to excess cancer deaths due to radiation exposure which can take years and even decades to show up.)

Taleb writes that it is irresponsible to ask people to rely on the calculation of small probabilities for man-made systems since these probabilities are almost impossible to calculate with any accuracy. (To read his reasoning, see entry 142 on the notebook section of his website entitled "Time to understand a few facts about small probabilities [criminal stupidity of statistical science].&quot ....Calculations for man-made systems that result in incidents occurring every million years should be dismissed on their face as useless.

Furthermore, he notes, models used to calculate such risk tend to underestimate small probabilities. What's worse, the consequences are almost always wildly underestimated as well.

http://resourceinsights.blogspot.com/2013/10/fukushima-and-our-inability-to-gauge.html
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