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alp227

(32,006 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:22 PM Jan 2014

Obamacare Enrollment Exploded In December To 2.2 Million

Last edited Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: TPM

The December enrollment surge for the Affordable Care Act that the Obama administration long predicted -- and desperately needed -- has come to fruition.

As of Dec. 28, 2.2 million Americans have enrolled in private health coverage, according to new data released Monday by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More than 1.8 million of them signed up in December alone, a huge spike that has gotten the law closer to its original goals than most would have thought possible after HealthCare.gov's disastrous rollout in October.

The administration's original projection was 3.3 million enrollments in private health insurance by the end of 2013, so Obamacare isn't quite back on track yet. But considering the combined total in October and November was less than the administration had targeted for just the month of October, it's much closer to the mark.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/obamacare-december-enrollment-numbers



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The Star-Ledger: N.J.'s Obamacare enrollment: 35,000 obtain coverage

Bloomberg News: Obamacare Customers Skew Older as Young Invincibles Wait to See

Cleveland Plain Dealer: Obamacare signups accelerated in December, federal officials say

Washington Post: Young adults make up almost one-quarter of ACA signups
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Obamacare Enrollment Exploded In December To 2.2 Million (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2014 OP
Ahh & to think of how many people could be benefitting giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #1
And the billionaires who own them. nt valerief Jan 2014 #7
Imagine what enrollment would have been had the Republicans allowed full funding for the rollout ... Journeyman Jan 2014 #2
K Cha Jan 2014 #3
BENGHAZI !!! underpants Jan 2014 #4
Dang...you beat me to it! SoapBox Jan 2014 #5
:-) underpants Jan 2014 #6
I just want to know what to do. EastHarlemGayDude Jan 2014 #8
The insurance companies were deliberately left in the game Doctor_J Jan 2014 #9
Are you unemployed or did you get anotherv job TexasBushwhacker Jan 2014 #12
Thanks for getting back EastHarlemGayDude Jan 2014 #13
Don't forget you should figure your net income, not gross TexasBushwhacker Jan 2014 #14
Thanks. EastHarlemGayDude Jan 2014 #17
Thanks So Much EastHarlemGayDude Jan 2014 #18
What I don't understand, they are aiming at 7 million, I think question everything Jan 2014 #10
no plans to reach more Doctor_J Jan 2014 #11
That's the first year's goal. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #15
This pisses all the right people off. DU Rec. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #16
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
1. Ahh & to think of how many people could be benefitting
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jan 2014

if it wasn't for dickweed Govenors & stonewalling republicans.

Journeyman

(15,026 posts)
2. Imagine what enrollment would have been had the Republicans allowed full funding for the rollout ...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:31 PM
Jan 2014

Anyone know what the original goals for enrollment were, and how close they've come to meeting them across the various age brackets?

8. I just want to know what to do.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jan 2014

I put this on another forum here. Nobody responded. I would like to know what I do.

I was laid off in June of 2013. I was paying for COBRA to the tune of $535 per month. I had United Healthcare/Oxford. In November, I received word that the plan would go up to $615 in December of 2013. The $535 was hard enough, but the $615 just wasn't doable. I figured I would try the New York State Health Exchange. In mid December I searched for plans where my doctor was part of the network. A slew of plans came up. I chose the coop, Health Republic of New York. The premium was $438 and change per month. A doctor visit carried a $30 copay not subject to deductible and I didn't have to have a referral to see a specialist. I bought a dental plan for $11.00 per month. A great deal I thought. Then it started. I couldn't log into the insurance company website (which is where I would make payments, get the plan documents, etc.). I couldn't get the plan documents. When I called, after waiting on line for 20 minutes, people didn't know what I meant when I said plan documents. They offered to send me a summary of benefits. They offered to have me speak with a "counselor." I just wanted the plan documents because I wanted to know what my coverage was. I explained to them that the summary of benefits was not a binding document. They told me they emailed the plan documents to me. They told me they sent them to me. No dice. I asked the company to send them again. They emailed me the plan documents, in the form of a link to a their website. I could simply log in to my account and down load them from there. The only problem was I still couldn't log in. I called again. I had the same conversation. I asked that they send me the plan documents in an attachment to an email. The representative agreed but said it would take 48-72 hours. "To send an email?," I thought. Oh, well, either way I would have them. (All this time, they kept asking me to pay the premium. Funny, but I got letters in the mail with the premium. I received reminders by both mail and email (once I received four emails about 2 minutes apart). Still no plan documents. When I explained that I was not going to pay a premium when I couldn't even see what I was getting, silence.

Fast forward to December 31, 2013. I tried to call again to get my plan documents. No dice. Finally, I got them later. Pretty good. It was a gold plan. Decent coverage It had just a $250 deductible. I had had a physical scheduled with my doctor under my old insurance. I finally got it canceled (that's another story). So, on 1/2, I called to reschedule. I knew I had to have blood work done, so I called the doctor's office to find out which lab to go to. When they asked me my insurance, they told me they didn't take the insurance I chose. I called the insurance company. The woman assured me that, no, they did take the insurance they were just mistaken. She told me she would call them to ask what the deal was and that she would call me back with whatever the answer was. I did a search on the insurance company website for my doctor. According to their website, my doctor was in network. So, at this point, both the exchange and the insurance company said my doctor was an "in network" doctor. I called the doctor's office again. They gave me the number of the billing person. I called her and spoke to her. I told her the situation. I said I had Health Republic, but that, since they were a new company, they were using the network of another insurance provider called Magnacare. The billing person said that they had canceled with Magnacare....in 2011.

I called the insurance company back again to speak about this. I told her that their database indicated that my doctor was affiliated with St. Vincent's hospital in lower Manhattan, a hospital that has been out of business for about 2 years. The woman then explained to me that doctors could be affiliated with more than one hospital. I explained that that was not the point. The point was that their database was at least 2 years out of date. Then I got the response of all responses: "Just because he's listed on the exchange doesn't mean he takes the insurance." Not much literally makes me speechless...that did.

So, then I chatted with the exchange again regarding this (there is an option in New York to chat with someone rather than wait 60 minutes on the phone). I asked the woman if I couldn't rely on the exchange website to be correct, how was I supposed to know if I was choosing the best insurance for me. She then gave me the links to all of the insurance plans on the site. So, I checked all of them. My doctor was listed as a provider in two of the websites' databases. The kicker was that he was listed as taking 5 or 6 of the exchange plans, when he only takes one. In fact, Blue Cross Blue Shield listed my doctor as an "in network" doctor. However, when I contacted them, they said he was an existing BCBS doctor, but they didn't know if he would take the exchange BCBS. I later found out he doesn't.

My doctor called me today to speak about this. He told me the two exchange insurances he accepted. One is United Healthcare/Oxford. The lowest premium was $577. If I wanted the equivalent insurance I had when I was paying COBRA, it was $630. The lowest Oxford plan had a $3,000 deductible. Office visits were subject to the deductible, and after that they only paid 50%. Now, preventive visits are $0, but I'm not sure what that covers. The other one he takes is $477. Again, office visits are subject to the copay of $600 after which the copay is $30.

What I thought was a great plan at first has quickly become a complete disaster. The exchange was almost 100% wrong about what my doctor took. I signed up for a plan that the exchange said my doctor took to being coverage on 1/1. Thank God I didn't pay the premium because it would have been for naught. The reason it is very important to me to keep my doctor is because I have had this doctor for 10-15 years. He knows my history, which includes two surgeries; he knows the drugs I have to take, and he knows crotchety me. We have developed a relationship. I understand changing doctors sometime. Sometimes it helps to have another person (although I disagree in this case). However, THIS is not the scenario under which a person should have to change doctors, particularly when two of the big selling points of this (sorry, but I have to call it what I think it is) debacle was that I could keep my doctor and my insurance would go down.

People are going to lambaste me when I say this. However, I think this was nothing more than window dressing so that a president who possesses no leadership skills, no moral core and no core beliefs could "brag" about something he knew would be a farce and would not, COULD NOT, deliver on what he was saying. The man has no fight. The man is incapable of fighting. As much as I hate to say it (after voting enthusiastically for him once and reluctantly for him the second time), Hillary was right. There just isn't any there there. He is soulless. He should have known that the private, for-profit insurance companies would never do right by the American people. There may be no preexisting conditions, but the hoops one has to jump through just to find the information to sign up for bad insurance is just too coincidental. I have the wherewithal to fight through this. I can completely understand why a father or mother would see something like this and throw their hands up in complete despair.

There is a solution, and it is single payer. No deductibles. No "networks". No "what if I have insurance in New York but get sick in Ohio" mess to deal with.

UPDATE: So...I called today to find out why I keep getting notices about correspondence in my account with the insurance company because I can't log on to their website. I called them AGAIN to find out what's going on. All of the other times, they told me it was a problem with the website they were working on. Today, the guy said to me: "I don't know what to tell you." When I asked to speak to a supervisor, he said he would take my name and have a supervisor call me back. I told him that I had done that and that nobody ever called me back. His response: "I don't know what to tell you." So: I receive correspondence I can't read. I can't log into a website. The company that does both of these won't contact me and knows nothing when I contact them. When I call the exchange, the only number they know is the same one the insurance company gives me which I call and can't get any answers from. I'm not alone. Check out their facebook page and you will see the comments awfully familiar with I've written here. I'm sorry, but I was completely wrong to be pleasantly surprised because nothing I thought happened when I first signed up ever did. Oh...one thing the insurance company HAS done...they have made sure I receive ample notices to pay their premiums.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. The insurance companies were deliberately left in the game
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jan 2014

because they own the Congress and the White House. Heritage Care is nothing but a smiley face (a fraction of the formerly uninsured getting coverage) on the biggest rip-off of working people in history ($600,000,000,000 guaranteed, annual profit for Big Insurance). For myself, spouse and I rely on my private, employer-provided plan. Up until this year our deductibles were 250/500. Now they're 6350. Copays went up too. Big Insurance paid dearly to get this health "Care" bill passed, and they will get their money back many times over.

We will never have single payer in the US until after the revolution - the one with the guillotines. Our president who promised that there would be a public option (no profits) backed off of that before the "negotiations" even started.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,148 posts)
12. Are you unemployed or did you get anotherv job
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:19 PM
Jan 2014

I would assume if you are unemployed that you would be eligible for a subsidy. Are the premiums you mentioned including the subsidy?

13. Thanks for getting back
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:43 AM - Edit history (1)

I have actually started my own business. I looked at the income thresholds, and given that I am a single person, my income is not low enough to meet the threshold. In addition, when I looked into getting a subsidy, they do not let you chose which plan you want...at least that is how I read it (the exchange said I could only obtain a bronze plan, and the copays and deductible were so high it wasn't worth it). However, maybe I will try and contact them to see again. The one time I did get through to someone (after an hour), the guy tried putting words in my mouth as to what my income is. When I told him that I was starting my own business because I was unemployed, he responded: "So, you don't anticipate having income in 2014?" I could NOT honestly answer that question by saying "yes". The most frustrating thing for me is that I don't know where to go to get information that is reliable.

I will try to call them again regarding a subsidy, as you suggest. When the guy came on with me, it just felt really seedy.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,148 posts)
14. Don't forget you should figure your net income, not gross
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:53 AM
Jan 2014

Start up costs for your business could be substantial, plus you can deduct all the expenses associated with your business including mileage. You can also deduct half of your FICA tax since you have to pay double as a self employed person.

If you are getting unemployment, I would use that as your income amount until you get substantially in the black with your business. You can always change it later, but if you can qualify for a subsidy now, I say go for it.

17. Thanks.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jan 2014

Alas...I was one of those whose unemployment ran out on 12/28. I'm lucky to have some money coming in...some clients, etc. I know I need to call the exchange back up and see what's happening. However, I just find the 60 minute wait time to speak with someone who tells me I need to wait to speak with someone else emotionally draining. The time I did do that and spoke with the "enrollment specialist", I just remember the person trying to say my income was zero because I am not collecting unemployment and because I'm building the business. I was terrified if I did, and I ended up getting a subsidy, have a zero income would put me in legal jeopardy. I think this process has so scarred me that I just don't know whom I should trust. On the bright side, I have a friend who is number 2 at a non profit who has spoken to me about doing work 20 hours per week for them which would entitle me to health insurance they would pay 92.5% of. I appreciate the folks here on DU being so helpful. I can't tell you how many people have told me I was wrong to rely on the exchange for information regarding the health insurance policies.

18. Thanks So Much
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:12 AM
Jan 2014

I went back on the website and applied for a subsidy and got it. It brought my cost down to about $250/month. I really appreciate everyone's support here and allowing me to rant.

question everything

(47,440 posts)
10. What I don't understand, they are aiming at 7 million, I think
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jan 2014

yet we know that there are close to 50 millions without insurance.

Why aiming so low? And are there plans to reach more?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. no plans to reach more
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jan 2014

having some on the outside looking in is part of how they keep the scam going. This way they can say to those paying through the nose to keep the insurance CEO's in yachts, "it's this or nothing".

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