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okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:58 PM Jan 2014

Russia Accused Of Hacking Hundreds Of Western, Asian Companies

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. cybersecurity firm says it has gathered evidence that the Russian government spied on hundreds of American, European and Asian companies, the first time Moscow has been linked to cyber attacks for alleged economic - rather than political - gains.

According to the firm, CrowdStrike, the victims of the previously unreported cyber espionage campaign include energy and technology firms, some of which have lost valuable intellectual property.

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"These attacks appear to have been motivated by the Russian government's interest in helping its industry maintain competitiveness in key areas of national importance," Dmitri Alperovitch, chief technology officer of CrowdStrike, told Reuters on Tuesday evening.

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He said that CrowdStrike has been following the activities of this Russian group, which it dubbed "Energetic Bear," for two years. The firm believes the Russian government is behind the campaign because of technical indicators, as well as analysis of the targets chosen and the data stolen. "We are very confident about this," Alperovitch said. Victims include European energy companies, defense contractors, technology companies and government agencies, according to the CrowdStrike report

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/russia-accused-of-hacking_n_4641652.html

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Russia Accused Of Hacking Hundreds Of Western, Asian Companies (Original Post) okaawhatever Jan 2014 OP
Snowden's condemnation will be forthcoming. Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #1
I doubt he'll condemn them - I wouldn't be surprised if he taught them how to do it! George II Jan 2014 #4
USA bad, all other countries good...lather, rinse, repeat. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #5
Why rtracey Jan 2014 #6
What worries me most, from later in the article: okaawhatever Jan 2014 #2
Only Hundreds? Sheesh...they are Slackers! We do it on Millions all across the World! KoKo Jan 2014 #3
Yes they appear to be rank amateurs compared with the NSA. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #7
No, we hack for safety purposes, not to make money for businesses. There is a huge difference. okaawhatever Jan 2014 #9
And you have proof? JDPriestly Jan 2014 #11
Oh please. That statement is too stupid for words. Yes, I can prove that every single member of okaawhatever Jan 2014 #12
No. But all I have is your word saying you have that kind of clearance and access to computers. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #13
okaawhatever, it helps if you know something about a subject Maedhros Jan 2014 #15
Thank you. Nihil Jan 2014 #17
Eurasia has always been our enemy; we have always been at war with Eurasia Alamuti Lotus Jan 2014 #8
Not surprising! We need international oversight and cooperation to stop the surveillance. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #10
What's the big deal? Maedhros Jan 2014 #14
And I thought......... calguy Jan 2014 #16
The problem is not that the United States is involved in espionage. Maedhros Jan 2014 #18
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. Snowden's condemnation will be forthcoming.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jan 2014

Surely he doesn't mind criticizing his current hosts for espionage.

It's about principles.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
2. What worries me most, from later in the article:
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jan 2014

He told Reuters that the data his firm has obtained about Energetic Bear suggests that authorities in Moscow have decided to start using cyber espionage to promote Russia's national economic interests.

"They are copying the Chinese play book," he said. "Cyber espionage is very lucrative for economic benefit to a nation."



We've all heard the wars of the future will be fought in cyberspace. I think this is phase 1.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
9. No, we hack for safety purposes, not to make money for businesses. There is a huge difference.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:21 PM
Jan 2014

China is the worst and only major power that was prolific in stealing business technology and patent protected info. Russia has always spied on us for political and security reasons. This is just for money making. Big friggn' difference.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. And you have proof?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jan 2014

You don't think we spy for money-making?

I don't have any proof that we do, but it would not surprise me at all.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
12. Oh please. That statement is too stupid for words. Yes, I can prove that every single member of
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jan 2014

the government has never spied for business purposes. I have that kind of clearance and access to computers. Do you have proof that the US has used cyberespionage to help businesses make more money?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. No. But all I have is your word saying you have that kind of clearance and access to computers.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:28 PM
Jan 2014

I have to take your word for it. There is no real civilian, unbiased oversight on our surveillance system.

There are countries that have very advanced manufacturing and other technology. Having access to their electronic media would be a huge temptation for private contractors working on behalf of our government if not our government itself.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
17. Thank you.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:50 AM
Jan 2014

Timely, accurate & succinct (yet still polite) rebuttal to yet another pro-NSA poster.



JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. Not surprising! We need international oversight and cooperation to stop the surveillance.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I was wondering this morning before I read this whether our government's hackers can tell when a foreign country hacks individuals or businesses in our country or elsewhere in the world. If we are getting the electronic transmissions from all over the world, it would seem to me that we could observe patterns that would tell us whether they are or not.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
14. What's the big deal?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jan 2014

The NSA does the same thing, and we're told repeatedly that it's nothing to get worked up about.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
18. The problem is not that the United States is involved in espionage.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jan 2014

It's that the espionage:

1. Is "justified" by the "war on terror", and those "justifications" are kept secret
2. Yet is directed at U.S. citizens who are not suspects, allied heads-of-state and foreign commercial/industrial organizations, none of which present a "terrorist threat"
3. And the data gathered is handed to domestic law enforcement agencies without proper warrants and using methods to specifically avoid discovery by defense counsel
4. And when the government deigns to explain the program, they outright lie to us.

Do try to keep up.

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