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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:49 PM Jan 2014

Feds indict Klansman trying to build an anti-Muslim X-ray cannon

Source: Raw Story

Feds indict Klansman trying to build an anti-Muslim X-ray cannon
By George Chidi
Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:10 EST

Federal prosecutors moved forward with a terrorism case against a purported Klansman who had been soliciting money from Jewish businessmen to build a bizarre — but technologically feasible — X-ray cannon intended to secretly kill Muslims.

Eric J. Feight, 55 pleaded guilty Wednesday to domestic terrorism-related charges in a federal courtroom in Albany, N.Y., and faces up to 15 years in prison. His alleged co-conspirator, Glendon Scott Crawford, 49, pleaded not guilty to the charges Wednesday after being indicted on three federal felony counts. The indictment filed in U.S. District Court in Albany, New York last week charged Crawford with attempting to produce and use a radiological dispersal device, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, and distributing information relating to weapons of mass destruction,

The Times-Union of Albany reported that Feight and his lawyers may seek a plea agreement in exchange for testimony against Crawford.

Investigators began looking at Crawford in April 2012, after the self-described Klansman approached a Schenectady synagogue, looking for financial support to build the radiation device.


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/23/feds-indict-klansman-trying-to-build-an-anti-muslim-x-ray-cannon/

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Feds indict Klansman trying to build an anti-Muslim X-ray cannon (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2014 OP
"a purported Klansman who had been soliciting money from Jewish businessmen"?? KamaAina Jan 2014 #1
Well, I for one am sure glad the NSA was all over this cowboy. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #7
The Sad part is that the driving forces Cryptoad Jan 2014 #9
Well, not me, but AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #10
It is no longer a matter of acceptance Cryptoad Jan 2014 #11
Sure. It's debateable at this point if congress even HAS the power to curtail such operations. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #12
It is most likely he just blabbed too much and someone reported him Ash_F Jan 2014 #22
"This will be working real good" MINIONS! MyNameGoesHere Jan 2014 #2
A what? shenmue Jan 2014 #3
Good thing Flash Gordon put a stop to his evil plans! TrollBuster9090 Jan 2014 #4
Now there are words you don't often see in a headline. longship Jan 2014 #5
My thought exactly. pangaia Jan 2014 #15
I really want to know how much financing he raised? There is no end to RW idiocy. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #6
technologically feasible??? dilby Jan 2014 #8
I doubt they need his expertise to build it. Incitatus Jan 2014 #14
Figures, a device that the FBI provided for him. dilby Jan 2014 #19
He is definitely a loon yourmovemonkey Jan 2014 #17
He probably would have died of radiation poisoning on his own. dilby Jan 2014 #20
''technologically feasible???'' - Yes. Very much so. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #21
Oh, it's entirely feasible. The Nazi's built one. Xithras Jan 2014 #24
Where there are Klansmen, there are gun nuts. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #13
"That's when Sheldon built his sonic death ray" FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #16
It sounds more like he should have been charged with fraud groundloop Jan 2014 #18
The Surrealists were prophets. nt bemildred Jan 2014 #23
And let's not forget their backup plan. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #25

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Well, I for one am sure glad the NSA was all over this cowboy.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

I mean who knows what could have happened if we let law enforcement handle domestic terrorism.... oh.. wait.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
9. The Sad part is that the driving forces
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jan 2014

running beneath you sarcasm , are the reason the Age of Privacy is Dead and Gone and will never return.!

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. Well, not me, but
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jan 2014

yes, there are a significant number of people in this country that would accept such surveillance if it actually worked once in a while, or had the appearance of having worked once in a while..

Enough so that it is unlikely the programs will go away.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
11. It is no longer a matter of acceptance
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jan 2014

even more and more data will be collected as time passes! Oh "they" will pretend that collection is being curtailed,,,,, just smoke and mirrors.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. Sure. It's debateable at this point if congress even HAS the power to curtail such operations.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jan 2014

Like when we find out 30 years after the fact that the CIA is funding ops by running drugs...

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
22. It is most likely he just blabbed too much and someone reported him
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:04 AM
Jan 2014

No super-secret NSA stuff needed.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
8. technologically feasible???
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

I am thinking if it was technologically feasible they would have hired him instead of indicting him. I am thinking this guy was some loon and the FBI needed to look like they were doing something.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
14. I doubt they need his expertise to build it.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jan 2014

They already have systems like that for crowd control. If a different frequency can be used to quietly kill people, the MIC already knows how to build/use them. Maybe they just don't want to admit they have it.

My first thought was a loon or someone just trying to con money, but apparently he was trying to build it.


"Mr. Crawford was arrested Tuesday as he tried to connect a remote activation device to an X-ray machine that undercover agents had provided to him after rendering it inoperable, the authorities said. They added that Mr. Crawford may have had the technical know-how to realize his goal. “From our investigation, the device — and there are a number of components that needed to be put together — would have been capable of emitting X-ray radiation that would have caused death,” a prosecutor, John Duncan, said in an interview. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/nyregion/2-accused-of-trying-to-create-a-weapon.html

The article also says he worked for GE as an industrial mechanic, so maybe.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
19. Figures, a device that the FBI provided for him.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:17 AM
Jan 2014

The FBI is notorious for finding crazy people, grooming them, supplying them with the means and then arresting them. They do this with so called home grown terrorists too, show up, act like a friend, give the idea of blowing something up, supply the fake bomb and then arrest and call themselves heroes.

yourmovemonkey

(266 posts)
17. He is definitely a loon
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:36 PM
Jan 2014

But if he hadn't been caught, eventually he would have done something to hurt innocent people.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
20. He probably would have died of radiation poisoning on his own.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:18 AM
Jan 2014

I am sure he is not an expert on X-rays and would have been dosing himself heavily with his testing.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
24. Oh, it's entirely feasible. The Nazi's built one.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jan 2014

It was a Wunderwaffen experiment to build an energy based antiaircraft weapon. The thing technically worked, but it was highly weather dependent, it required huge amounts of energy, and it had an unfortunate tendency to make its operators glow in the dark (until they dropped dead of cancer). The mechanism is fairly straightforward, the plans for the thing are actually on the Internet, and it could be a lethal (though admittedly odd) weapon if someone really wanted to build one.

If you have a lot of money and some really good engineers, you can also build yourself an X-Ray laser. In laser form, it's a particularly nasty device that can inflict serious damage from MILES away. X-Ray lasers were actually one of the proposed weapons systems in the Star Wars SDI initiative in the 1980's, and were going to be used to shoot down missiles. Interestingly, that's where the "Raygun" part of Reagan's "Ronnie Raygun" nickname began. Ray guns from space to shoot down missiles.

The awful part of a weapon like this is that it's nearly undetectable. Radiation isn't detectable when you're being exposed unless you have special equipment, and most people would have no idea they had been dosed with X-Rays. By the time their cancers started showing up a few months later, any obvious evidence of X-Ray exposure would be long gone. It would be written off as a cancer cluster of unknown origin.



FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
16. "That's when Sheldon built his sonic death ray"
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jan 2014

"SONIC DEATH RAY?!"

"Well... that's what he called it; didn't even slow down the neighbor kids"

Seriously, was it supposed to kill Muslims selectively or is that just how he wanted to use it?

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
18. It sounds more like he should have been charged with fraud
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jan 2014

Anti-Muslim X-ray cannon, really? That's just comical, what jury in the country is gonna' buy into that? But on the other hand, if he was arrested for trying to raise money for something that had zero chance of working, that might stand up to scrutiny.
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