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alp227

(32,018 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:07 AM Jan 2014

Oakland: 14-year-old wanted in fatal shooting of sister surrenders to police

Source: Oakland Tribune

OAKLAND -- A 14-year-old boy wanted in the killing of his older sister since last week came out of hiding Wednesday, sharing a tearful goodbye with family members who cried and hugged the handcuffed teen as Oakland police stood by to take him into custody at police headquarters.

Police said Mario Toliver Jr. was considered armed and dangerous after shooting and killing his 17-year-old sister Jan. 23. To his family, though, he is still their baby. His father said he loved his sister, and she loved him back.

"He's not armed and dangerous. He's a child," Mario Toliver Sr. said after the arrest. "They were putting things out there to try to hurt my baby. I just stopped crying from letting go of my son. I didn't want to let go, but I had to do what's best."

The seemingly senseless killing and the teen's subsequent flight riveted a city that has seen a rash of youth crime. Mario Toliver Jr. had been wanted since Jan. 23, when police said he had fatally shot his sister, Justice Toliver, in their fifth-floor apartment in the 800 block of Franklin Street in Oakland's Chinatown district, then fled. Justice Toliver was the mother of a 2-year-old daughter.

Read more: http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25021078/oakland-teen-wanted-fatal-shooting-sister-surrenders-police



Story has gone national, covered by UPI and Time.com. The San Francisco Chronicle also has a report.
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Oakland: 14-year-old wanted in fatal shooting of sister surrenders to police (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2014 OP
was he on or off psych drugs? annm4peace Jan 2014 #1
Where did he get the gun? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #2
Right marions ghost Jan 2014 #5
It's a sad story of rivalry getting out of hand. mackerel Jan 2014 #3
When all you have is a hammer ... every problem looks like a nail ... brett_jv Jan 2014 #4
This is sad, too "He recently became a father himself." AT 14. n/t DebJ Jan 2014 #6
A tragedy on multiple levels Lurks Often Jan 2014 #7
easy gun access really takes an anger outburst or rage to the next level :( Sunlei Jan 2014 #8
His own sister had to fucking DIE because she bleached his laundry? Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #9

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
1. was he on or off psych drugs?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:20 AM
Jan 2014

it seems almost any of the mass shootings the shooter is either getting on or off psych drugs.

It seems someone would really have to be out of it to kill their sibling.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
5. Right
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jan 2014

why is the owner of the gun not prosecuted?

This is what is wrong with this scenario. Teens often do rash things so they should have access to lethal weapons...

This is truly a sick society.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
3. It's a sad story of rivalry getting out of hand.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:29 AM
Jan 2014

They were being raised by a granparent and they had been arguing a lot of late. The older sister decided to get
back a him for some infraction and she bleached his clothes. He was so upset he shot her.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
4. When all you have is a hammer ... every problem looks like a nail ...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:50 AM
Jan 2014

And a gun ... is a hammer.

So sad for this entire family. RIP Justice Toliver, and I hope your 2 y.o. grows up with the love s/he deserves.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
7. A tragedy on multiple levels
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jan 2014

Where did a 14yr old get a gun, especially in CA with it's very stringent laws?

What the hell were the parents doing while these kids were growing up? The daughter had a child at 15 and her brother (the shooter) just had his own son born? When your children become parents at 15 and 14 respectively, you are NOT being a good parent.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. easy gun access really takes an anger outburst or rage to the next level :(
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jan 2014

"crime of passion"

A crime of passion, or crime passionnel, in popular usage, refers to a violent crime, especially murder, in which the perpetrator commits the act against someone because of sudden strong impulse such as sudden rage rather than as a premeditated crime.

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