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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:33 AM Jan 2014

Fifty-two Olympians urge Russia to repeal 'gay propaganda' laws

Source: Guardian

On the eve of the Sochi Winter Games, more than 50 current and former Olympians have called on the Russian authorities to repeal recently introduced anti-gay laws and criticised the International Olympic Committee (IOC) and multinational sponsors for not doing more to force them to do so.

Fifty-two Olympians, with dozens of medals between them and including 12 competitors in Sochi, have launched a trenchant criticism of the lack of action to force Vladimir Putin's administration to scale back laws that forbid "gay propaganda" aimed at under-18s and have led to a wave of homophobic attacks.

The signatories to the so-called "principle six" campaign – named after the clause in the Olympic charter that supposedly guarantees non-discrimination – include the American snowboarding gold medallist Seth Wescott, the Sochi-bound Canadian biathlete Rosanna Crawford and the Australian four-man bobsled team.

Other famous former Olympians who are backing the call include the tennis players Martina Navratilova and Andy Roddick, the former Leeds United footballer Robbie Rogers, and the four-time gold-medal-winning diver Greg Louganis.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/30/olympic-athletes-russia-repeal-anti-gay-laws



Minor logistic problem there : the law passed in July was a federal law which unified existing laws in the regions. Removing the federal law would have no effect on the regional laws. Example here of a regional case : Constitutional Court dismisses complaint against St. Petersburg gay propaganda law http://rapsinews.com/news/20131204/269981540.html
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Fifty-two Olympians urge Russia to repeal 'gay propaganda' laws (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jan 2014 OP
I will boycott every news organisation or website who report about the Russian Olympic. Sand Wind Jan 2014 #1
I'm not sure you mean that. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #2
seems pretty serious, and he's already threatened DU if they're mentioned Alamuti Lotus Jan 2014 #4
Should probably refine that to actual sponsors Android3.14 Jan 2014 #3
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #5
yeah, just like Jesse Owens ramming it in Hitler's face in Berlin 1936. yorgatron Jan 2014 #6
what complete and utter bullshit! William769 Jan 2014 #7
That line sounds as bad... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #51
He has been shown the door. William769 Jan 2014 #52
About f'ing time... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #53
When in Rome? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #8
How is this not a 6-0 hide? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #14
All I can say is, I did my part. I was juror #1 stevenleser Jan 2014 #17
Would you please alert on the pm you got with the jury results? uppityperson Jan 2014 #18
Way ahead of you. Already done. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #19
Thank you, greatly appreciate it. uppityperson Jan 2014 #20
You're welcome! stevenleser Jan 2014 #25
Thank you. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #26
Thank you and thanks for alerting on the jury results. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #31
You're welcome! stevenleser Jan 2014 #49
I'm so stealing "mountain of goat crap"... SidDithers Jan 2014 #39
LMAO, you just made me do an internet search to see if anyone had said it before. stevenleser Jan 2014 #45
Doncha just love it... theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #47
Well they have been alerted on so the admins can see it. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #48
EarlG took care of it. Pizza has been served stevenleser Jan 2014 #54
He got the other one also. William769 Jan 2014 #56
Yup, EarlG is all over it today! stevenleser Jan 2014 #59
Thanks for letting me know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #58
You will, I'm sure, benefit from a re-reading of the TOS. MADem Jan 2014 #9
The Gay Agenda Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #10
I guess we don't need to post the homophobic agenda. William769 Jan 2014 #11
That would be.... Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #13
... William769 Jan 2014 #15
LOL pinto Jan 2014 #16
Maybe the funniest half hour of TV I've ever seen... SidDithers Jan 2014 #27
he's no longer with us CreekDog Jan 2014 #57
This post is full of so much fail Sissyk Jan 2014 #12
That poster is full of so much fail CreekDog Jan 2014 #34
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #21
It only took 4 jurors to hide that bigoted bullshit Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #22
And a second Pizza is served by EarlG stevenleser Jan 2014 #55
Well deserved. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #62
You've managed to say much more about yourself than about the nine people pointing out bigotry. stevenleser Jan 2014 #23
he can't continue, luckily. but here's an oldie but goodie from him in the meantime: CreekDog Jan 2014 #41
It's safe to say he won't like this one then. William769 Jan 2014 #43
he's gone too CreekDog Jan 2014 #60
Thanks. William769 Jan 2014 #61
I thought you might like to know your post was Alerted on. DURHAM D Jan 2014 #44
OMFG!! Sissyk Jan 2014 #46
Interesting, thank you. Also, two jurors on the post with "gay agenda" in it CreekDog Jan 2014 #50
Ironically enough, Gays are still denied rights in most states dbackjon Jan 2014 #24
people often confuse who the bullies really are Kali Jan 2014 #28
But but but I thought you libruls were supposed to be open minded and accepting, not all grrrr uppityperson Jan 2014 #32
Spot on! William769 Jan 2014 #33
Yeah, like all that Duck DyNASTY crap. Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #35
Because calling someone out on bigotry is EXACTLY the same thing as being a bigot? Oh. My. uppityperson Jan 2014 #29
Apparently Aerows Jan 2014 #36
4-2 to HIDE IT. uppityperson Jan 2014 #37
I was juror Aerows Jan 2014 #38
. William769 Jan 2014 #40
This is a joke right? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #30
k& rec uppityperson Jan 2014 #42

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. I'm not sure you mean that.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jan 2014

The chances of them not being mentioned at all here on DU are pretty remote.

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
4. seems pretty serious, and he's already threatened DU if they're mentioned
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jan 2014
I prevent DU: I will not respect the fact that you report about the Russian Olympic
You will be the scum of the web for me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024399335

and this lovely (hidden) posting from there:
And yes we will attack all website who report about it.
So be prepared DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4399358
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. Should probably refine that to actual sponsors
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jan 2014

Broad sweeping statements are the bane of the protester.
Perhaps a narrower reality-based approach would be more effective in the real world.
http://www.sochi2014.com/en/partners-about

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

William769

(55,142 posts)
7. what complete and utter bullshit!
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jan 2014

This is the first place you lose the argument "I have friends and relatives that are gay" and it only gets worse from there. People are fighting for their lives, their children, their families. and your fucking worried about your precious games?

With friends like you who needs enemies?

I'm going to stop here because I have a sneaky suspicion you just might find enough people on a jury to support your *******.

Have a nice day.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. All I can say is, I did my part. I was juror #1
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jan 2014

On Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:30 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I think this is the wrong venue, and will not gain much sympathy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=713872

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

old style homophobic spew - "some of my best friends are..."

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:40 PM, and the Jury voted 4-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Proud to vote to hide this mountain of goat crap
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Lots of anti-gay rhetoric and interesting use of quotation marks.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "When all you have is a hammer ... all you see are nails." This post is fine. Alerter needs thicker skin.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing hideworthy. Nothing offensive. Waste of an alert.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
18. Would you please alert on the pm you got with the jury results?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jan 2014

There is an alert thing on the pm, please alert as Admin has said they want to be notified of jurors like those.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
45. LMAO, you just made me do an internet search to see if anyone had said it before.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jan 2014

Only two hits in the whole internet via a google search and neither is a prominent person. I shall claim it as my own!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. You will, I'm sure, benefit from a re-reading of the TOS.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jan 2014

You seem to have lost your way, I believe.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
27. Maybe the funniest half hour of TV I've ever seen...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jan 2014

S2E1 of The IT Crowd, since this thread could use a bit more levity

http://vimeo.com/38287250

Sid

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
12. This post is full of so much fail
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:39 PM
Jan 2014

I don't even know where to begin so I'll just go to the end.

"I have NO objections to most people's beliefs, habits, race, color,etc."

Where do gay people fit in your four categories listed there? It's not beliefs, race or color. So are you saying being gay is a "habit".

This post is beyond any I've seen and you should be tombstoned, IMO.

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. It only took 4 jurors to hide that bigoted bullshit
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jan 2014

and in my opinion only one admin should take the time to ban that poster. Your post is vacuous.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
23. You've managed to say much more about yourself than about the nine people pointing out bigotry.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jan 2014

By all means, please continue.

Please continue to object to people calling out bigotry

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
41. he can't continue, luckily. but here's an oldie but goodie from him in the meantime:
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jan 2014



Alamuti Lotus (3,084 posts)
5. Does "a hardy gut-laugh" count as retaliation?

The ridiculous behavior of American presidents is usually a subject of high comedy for the world to witness, but this latest clumsy bombast of arrogance must have the Kremlin boyars in stitches.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=561777

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
60. he's gone too
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jan 2014

About Alamuti Lotus
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DURHAM D

(32,603 posts)
44. I thought you might like to know your post was Alerted on.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jan 2014

The vote was 4 - 2 to Leave. I, of course, voted with the majority but a few in this thread would probably think I should recuse myself given that I am a card carrying member of the LGBT community.

Here is the Alert message -

The person who sent the alert wrote: Stalking and gloating--Internet equivalent of 'kicking while down', precisely the bullying behavior I spoke of in the first place.


Note the "I"

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
46. OMFG!!
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jan 2014

Yeah, it's apparent who alerted on that. And, 2 voted to hide?? They need to explain themselves.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
50. Interesting, thank you. Also, two jurors on the post with "gay agenda" in it
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jan 2014

didn't think that term was worthy of hiding.



 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
24. Ironically enough, Gays are still denied rights in most states
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jan 2014

Thanks for comparing us all to BIGOTS.



Kali

(55,002 posts)
28. people often confuse who the bullies really are
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jan 2014

sometimes it is the bullies who get out-numbered

sometimes when a group stands up to bigotry, bigots claim to be victims

sort of like how some straight people feel victimized by the gay agenda

know what I mean?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
32. But but but I thought you libruls were supposed to be open minded and accepting, not all grrrr
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jan 2014
just in case

Good post, thanks.

Behind the Aegis

(53,918 posts)
35. Yeah, like all that Duck DyNASTY crap.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jan 2014

Where poor ole' Phil was set upon by the evil gayz for simply being an American using his first right amendments!




 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
36. Apparently
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jan 2014

I served on that jury and voted a hide, because the entire premise of the post was offensive.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
37. 4-2 to HIDE IT.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:49 PM
Jan 2014

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Not to mention "mob mentality".
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It's not a dogpile when you express your opinions, and it doesn't make you a "heterophobe", either, to stand up against bigotry. Not accusing anyone of anything, just pointing out that the poster seems to think that homophobic behavior is on the same playing field as the gay community standing up for their rights.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I vote to make DU suck less
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: yep, I agree with the alerter. hide it.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
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