CSEC used airport Wi-Fi to track Canadian travellers: Edward Snowden documents
Source: CBC News
A top secret document retrieved by U.S. whistleblower Edward Snowden and obtained by CBC News shows that Canada's electronic spy agency used information from the free internet service at a major Canadian airport to track the wireless devices of thousands of ordinary airline passengers for days after they left the terminal.
After reviewing the document, one of Canada's foremost authorities on cyber-security says the clandestine operation by the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC) was almost certainly illegal.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csec-used-airport-wi-fi-to-track-canadian-travellers-edward-snowden-documents-1.2517881
As a Canadian, I am grateful to Edward Snowden for his whisleblowing revelations. Without him, there is simply no way that Canadians would now be aware of the extent of the illegal spying done by our government on Canadian citizens, and on others.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)All Canadians with a smartphone, tablet or laptop are "essentially carrying around digital dog tags as we go about our daily lives," Deibert says.
Anyone able to access the data that those devices leave behind on wireless hotspots, he says, can obtain "extraordinarily precise information about our movements and social relationships."
heaven05
(18,124 posts)with these devices, face the same scrutiny. Hell passports have a chip in them now. Good or bad thing? Don't know. Just the fact of them being is the problem, I think.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)the implications are profound.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)just keeps making more friends daily...guess you can cross Canada off your list of potential homes.
When are you going to tell us about the Russian spying stuff? Or how the Chinese spy on the world and their people? Oh ya, they would simply execute anyone telling their national secrets. Maybe try reveling some North Korea state stuff...dog food remind you of anything Eddie?
What a twisted little guy you are Eddie...and never, EVER to be an American again!
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)The Canadian people are grateful. This wouldn't have seen the light of day without Snowden. Everyone I know IRL is thankful for the revelations. But keep on with the name calling.
frylock
(34,825 posts)dead_head
(81 posts)If North Korea spies on its people it's bad but when north america does it it's good?
If a chinese ¨Edward snowden¨ would whistleblow what the chinese governement is doing, it would be a bad thing if you were a chinese? You would tell him to never be chinese again?
I really don't get that position that since russia probably does spie, we can't know about the fact that canadian government spies on its people too.
Please explain.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)A government-operated facility which provides free government-operated WiFi was collecting the MAC id's of devices which is, of course, required as part of establishing a WiFi connection with a device! So, um, uh... gee.
dead_head
(81 posts)Thanks for your imput but I was not asking about how they do it.
I was talking about the fact we are not supposed to know. Last time I went at the airport there was'ent signs that said ¨We are traking you¨
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Not only is there a sign, but you expressly agree to it.
Toronto Pearson Airport:
http://www.torontopearson.com/en/terms-of-use/##
Security
Information sent or received over the Internet is generally unsecured, and the GTAA cannot and does not make any representation or warranty concerning security of any communication to or from the Website(s), or any representation or warranty regarding the interception by third parties of personal or other information.
It's written in English.
However, my comment was not directed to your question in the first place. I was following up to geek tragedy's comment, as you might tell from looking at the thread structure.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Problem 1) UNTIL SNOWDEN --nobody thought this was important to tell the American people (or Canadians or others around the world...) about this. Only the highest level officials knew it.
Problem 2) NOBODY among those high level officials thought it mattered that average citizens had no real protections against this type of unwarranted surveillance under current laws. They had the green light to collect it all, so they did. Very bad precedent.
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And now we find out that this is Obama's pick for NSA director:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/31/world/vice-admiral-to-be-named-nsa-director.html
"Mr. Obamas decision to pick a military officer, rather than a civilian versed in civil liberties issues, was made weeks ago, when he rejected his own advisory panels recommendation that the N.S.A. and the United States Cyber Command have separate leaders. By law the command, the Pentagons four-year-old cyberwarfare organization, must be headed by a military officer.
The result is that Admiral Rogers, now the head of Fleet Cyber Command, the Navys fast-growing cyberunit, will find himself in the public cross hairs in a way he has never been during a 33-year military career. Starting with his confirmation hearings, expected to begin as soon as next month, the admiral will be pressed on how he would carry out a series of changes that Mr. Obama announced two weeks ago."
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,867 posts)But good job going above and beyond for the neo-conservative Harper government. At least your showing your real allegiances.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)this is totally illegal, so I'm interested to see what happens next.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)The people with the Whip Hand will say
Its the only way we can protect FREEDOM
And the SHEEP will genuflect and continue to live life, secure in their velvet fetters.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)Under repeated questioning by opposition MPs, Nicholson didn't directly deny the story, but said that the document detailing work by the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CESC) doesn't show that Canadian communications were targeted or used.
"It's my understanding that CSEC made it clear to CBC that nothing in the documents that they had obtained showed that Canadian communications were targeted, collected, or used, nor that travellers' movements were tracked," Nicholson said in the House of Commons.
New Democrat MP David Christopherson asked Nicholson to categorically deny the agency has tracked Canadians, but Nicholson returned to his response about the CSEC commissioner.
When the minister responsible won't respond to a direct question that would put it to bed, you know he's lying.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)Titonwan
(785 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Opposition MPs say the government has to do more to reassure Canadians after a document newly released by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden suggested Canada's communications spy agency tracked people through free airport Wi-Fi.
The top secret document shows Canada's electronic spy agency used information from the free internet service at a major Canadian airport to track the wireless devices of thousands of ordinary airline passengers for days after they left the terminal.
Under repeated questioning by opposition MPs on Friday, Defence Minister Rob Nicholson didn't directly deny the story, but said that the document detailing work by the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC) doesn't show that Canadian communications were targeted or used.
New Democrat House Leader Nathan Cullen said the government needs to offer proof no Canadians were tracked.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csec-snowden-docs-mps-grill-defence-minister-on-spying-revelation-1.2518564