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Judi Lynn

(160,449 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 03:42 AM Feb 2014

Colorado CEO, under investigation, commits suicide with a nail gun

Source: Raw Story

Colorado CEO, under investigation, commits suicide with a nail gun
By Tom Boggioni
Saturday, February 8, 2014 14:44 EST

The CEO of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado was found dead in his home by a family member this past week, the result of self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun.

According to the Denver Post, Richard Talley, 57, and the company he founded in 2001 was under investigation by state insurance regulators at the time of his death late Tuesday.

An Arapahoe County coroner spokeswoman said on Thursday that Talley was found in his garage by a family member who called authorities. The coroner determined that Talley died from seven or eight self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun fired into his torso and head.

It is unclear whether Talley’s suicide was related to the investigation by the Colorado Division of Insurance, a part of the Department of Regulatory Agencies, which regulates title companies.


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/08/colorado-ceo-under-investigation-commits-suicide-with-a-nail-gun/

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Colorado CEO, under investigation, commits suicide with a nail gun (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2014 OP
That's got to be one of the worst ways . . . MrModerate Feb 2014 #1
I totally agree davidpdx Feb 2014 #7
Not to go all CT blackspade Feb 2014 #2
Sure isn't typical. defacto7 Feb 2014 #3
nope and very co inky dinky with the bankers all 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #12
Bank ceo's, missing reporter, State rep family members murdered, now this guy? Herself Feb 2014 #4
Looks like the regulators snort Feb 2014 #5
Maybe he was being framed, or just skirting the law!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Feb 2014 #6
Seven or eight wounds from a nail gun? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2014 #8
yeah - after that first one I'd think the pain might rurallib Feb 2014 #9
Actually it was more like 58 and when the cop in charge asked how 58 blows was a suicide..... marble falls Feb 2014 #11
Either determined or not a suicide titaniumsalute Feb 2014 #10
Exactly ... I'd guess he had help ... Wernothelpless Feb 2014 #15
More evidence removal. nt valerief Feb 2014 #13
Not buying it. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #14
What if it was a "brad gun"? sofa king Feb 2014 #16
I own an air compressor, a brad nailer gun and a big framing nailer gun mike dub Feb 2014 #21
Sounds a lot more like a torture execution to me. mn9driver Feb 2014 #17
Could be. sofa king Feb 2014 #18
Murder by Death eggplant Feb 2014 #19
Right. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #20

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. I totally agree
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:18 AM
Feb 2014

How utterly gruesome. A few years ago a former president of South Korea jumped off a cliff as he was being investigated. The person (or persons) who found the body will be scarred for life.

Herself

(185 posts)
4. Bank ceo's, missing reporter, State rep family members murdered, now this guy?
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 05:36 AM
Feb 2014

Is there a new development or am I just now noticing this?

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
6. Maybe he was being framed, or just skirting the law!!!
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 06:07 AM
Feb 2014

I do find it hard to believe he shot 7 or 8 nails into himself...as a builder I know how much punch those guns have....I feel sorry for his family actually...

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
9. yeah - after that first one I'd think the pain might
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:28 AM
Feb 2014

be so bad ...........

when I was younger I remember hearing on Chicago radio that a guy found with 8 hammer blows to the back of the head was ruled a suicide........

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
11. Actually it was more like 58 and when the cop in charge asked how 58 blows was a suicide.....
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 10:19 AM
Feb 2014

the cop said the guy was determined to die. This was in the seventies. There was a photo of the skull and it was unbelievable the damage a hammer makes.

I found this article from another case in Indiana: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-04-03/news/mn-2660_1_hammer-blows

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
10. Either determined or not a suicide
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 10:17 AM
Feb 2014

I own and use a Passlode Nail gun. I, for my life, can not figure howd you shoot yourself 7 to 8 times with it. Maybe twice...but MAN.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
16. What if it was a "brad gun"?
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 12:35 PM
Feb 2014

This story would make a lot more sense if the type of "nail gun" was better defined. I've seen and used nail guns of all sorts, from breech-loading gun-lets that use .22 charges to heavy construction nail guns to home use versions that are much, much lighter duty. And then there's that sweet-ass Super Nail Gun from Quake, but I date myself.

In fact, most home use nail guns that I have seen are actually what we used to call "brad guns." "Brad" is an 18 gauge size, very small in diameter--about 1 milimeter--and they don't have a pronounced flat head like roofing nails. It's the kind of nail you use to fix wood treatments indoors.

A person would have to shoot one's self seven or eight times with a brad nailer, and one of those shots would have to get pretty lucky itself, perhaps bouncing off of the opposite side of the skull or something. There are stories of people who walked around with much larger nails than that in their heads.

What, you think I'm kidding? Here's an NIH abstract of a guy who shot himself in the head with a nail gun twelve times. And he was a walk-in patient! to the hospital, complaining of--unsurprisingly--a headache.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16703892

mike dub

(541 posts)
21. I own an air compressor, a brad nailer gun and a big framing nailer gun
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:21 PM
Feb 2014

Using a brad (finishing) nailer for suicide would be like death by a thousand paper cuts. Suicide by a large framing nailer gun would be a gruesomely quicker and Less painful way to go.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
18. Could be.
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 12:46 PM
Feb 2014

I think the tell for that would be whether or not the fellow's hand was pinned to his work desk. That would require a much larger nail gun than the one I guess about in my post above. One hand might leave the suicide explanation open.

But, as Neil from the Young Ones observed, one can't crucify one's self because "there is no way you can drive in the last nail." So if both hands are pinned, it's a "suicide."

eggplant

(3,907 posts)
19. Murder by Death
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 01:06 PM
Feb 2014
Dick Charleston: Died of what?
Butler: She murdered herself in her sleep, sir.
Dick Charleston: You mean suicide?
Butler: Oh, no. It was murder, all right. Mrs. Twain hated herself.


http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Murder_by_Death
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