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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:21 AM Feb 2014

Effort To Repeal Colorado Gun Control Laws Fails

Source: Huffington Post

Colorado's controversial ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines larger than 15 rounds will remain law after a House Democrats killed an effort to repeal the measure Monday night.

Just last week, state Democrats also stopped a Republican attempt to repeal universal background checks on all private and online gun sales and transfers.

Both restrictions were part of a package of new gun control measures signed into law in 2013 by Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper (D).

Furious opponents hit back in the wake of the laws' passing last year. Two senators who supported the bills -- Senate President John Morse (D-Colo. Springs) and state Sen. Angela Giron (D-Pueblo) -- were ousted in the state's first-ever recall election.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/colorado-gun-control-repeal_n_4768638.html



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Effort To Repeal Colorado Gun Control Laws Fails (Original Post) onehandle Feb 2014 OP
Thank God......... Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #1
Because nearly all murders just use that first bullet Recursion Feb 2014 #2
The Next Cho/Lanza otohara Feb 2014 #3
Cho used standard magazines to kill 32 people hack89 Feb 2014 #4
I'm saying "the next Cho/Lanza" is the wrong problem to be working on Recursion Feb 2014 #5
Here's What "We" Do otohara Feb 2014 #9
and amen, hare Krishna, hare rama, namaste nightscanner59 Feb 2014 #6
Republicans introduced this bill for show, in anticipation of the November elections. Lasher Feb 2014 #7
Good. Iggo Feb 2014 #8
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
1. Thank God.........
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:46 AM
Feb 2014

Why do self-proclaimed law abiding gun owners need high capacity magazines? They cannot articulate a reason other than they just want them and the 2nd Amendment says their right to bear arms shall not be abridged.

To that I say your right to carry a firearm is not abridged but your right to carry cartridges that contribute to mass deaths when other "law-abiding" gun owners go nuts and start shooting is subject to reasonable regulation.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Because nearly all murders just use that first bullet
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:20 AM
Feb 2014

I agree, there's no particular need for them, but they also aren't what's killing people. If we have the political wherewithal to ban them, OK, but we shouldn't confuse that with actually solving the real issues of gun violence (which is that there are way, way, way more handguns out there than we would like).

It's part of the problem that comes from the debate being driven by random mass shootings, which are like 0.001% of firearm deaths (and don't even require large magazines -- Cho didn't have them, and Lanza left his magazines half-empty on the floor). Two thirds are suicides, and the rest are one person shooting one other person with a handgun.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
3. The Next Cho/Lanza
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:52 AM
Feb 2014

are plotting how to out do the last.
Isn't that how it works with these guys?

Didn't our theater shooter use magazines?

Yeah to CO Dems and all the victims of gun violence/concerned citizens who testified yesterday.


hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Cho used standard magazines to kill 32 people
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:58 AM
Feb 2014

if a law would not have stopped the Va Tech shooting then it will not stop mass shootings.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. I'm saying "the next Cho/Lanza" is the wrong problem to be working on
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:03 AM
Feb 2014

I'm much more worried about the 46 people who are going to commit suicide with a handgun today, or the 27 people who are going to kill one other person they know with a handgun today.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
9. Here's What "We" Do
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:39 PM
Feb 2014

We stay home, we avoid movies and malls. I tell my son's many gal friends to stay away from men with guns and when they have their own children...ask parents of their play date friends if there are guns in the home and if so are they locked up and demand to see the locked up guns. If we run into a policeman be very polite, cuz their fucking gun crazy.

Colorado is at least trying to prevent 70 people from getting shot in a matter of seconds. If you look at the map over at Slate, Colorado fares much better than states with looser gun laws. I get real tired of this attitude that none of these laws will do much and the gun experts then proceed to explain why it's all waste of time.

I fear Colorado will go red again over this gun issue. If you keep saying something won't work over and over again even if it might save a life or two or thirty then you are perpetuating a do-nothing agenda to keep us safe.

Columbine happened two years before my son started HS - he attended a school smack dab in the middle of Columbine and Arapahoe. In 2001 I thought Columbine was so horrific it wouldn't happen again. Now look where we are - what are you going to tell your kids/grandkids when they start school?





nightscanner59

(802 posts)
6. and amen, hare Krishna, hare rama, namaste
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:30 AM
Feb 2014

Take it from one who may be the future owner of the country's premier LGBT freindly hunting camp.

Lasher

(27,567 posts)
7. Republicans introduced this bill for show, in anticipation of the November elections.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:42 AM
Feb 2014

The measure was killed in committee, so Republicans didn't get the floor vote they wanted. Even if it had passed in the General Assembly, Governor Hickenlooper would surely have vetoed it. Although his approval rating has dropped since he signed the gun bill, he currently leads every potential GOP opponent in the Governor's race.

Democrats currently have a 37-28 majority in the state House of Representatives and a 18-17 majority in the state Senate.

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