POLICE UNION IMPLICATED IN BRIDGEGATE OWED HUNDREDS OF JOBS TO CHRISTIE
Source: NJ Spotlight
POLICE UNION IMPLICATED IN BRIDGEGATE OWED HUNDREDS OF JOBS TO CHRISTIE
MARK J. MAGYAR | FEBRUARY 18, 2014
Nunziato and Christie
Gov. Chris Christie won the loyalty of the Port Authority police union whose actions are under investigation in Bridgegate by guaranteeing that its rank-and-file would be in charge of security at the new Freedom Tower and by pushing a Port Authority police expansion that added hundreds of union jobs and dues-paying members.
Now the police union and its leaders are under investigation by both the Legislature and the Port Authority for enforcing the George Washington Bridge lane closures, telling disgruntled motorists to call Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich to make sure he knew the lane closures were aimed at him, and backing up the Christie administrations cover story that the closures were part of a legitimate traffic study.
The police unions enthusiastic role in the Bridgegate lane closures -- which were ordered by Christie Deputy Chief of Staff Bridget Kelly in apparent political retaliation against Sokolich for not endorsing Christie for reelection -- came nearly eight months after the Republican governor won the endorsement of the Port Authority Patromen's Benevolent Association President Paul Nunziato and his then-1,300 member union.
Read more: http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/14/02/18/police-union-implicated-in-bridgegate-owed-hundreds-of-dues-paying-jobs-to-christie/?p=all
jsr
(7,712 posts)Says it all.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Javaman
(62,504 posts)so many layers. the corruption doesn't seem to end.
christx30
(6,241 posts)I'd prefer to say that this is a parfait of investigations. Everyone loves parfaits!
Javaman
(62,504 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)BTW typical republican act ..... cause the problem and then blame a democrat for
that very problem. aka "Call the Mayor of Ft. Lee" BTW part 2 this Hugh! If the
P.A. police were telling motorists to blame the mayor then this is a direct link back
to Christie's administration.
Cha
(296,863 posts)big ol bowl.
According to one article I read.. they have the witnesses in the form of the very motorists whose lives the Christie admin was playing with those 4 days in September.. including 9/11.
groundloop
(11,514 posts)okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)covered, but the policemen and women won't. Arrrgghhhh.......Crap they should have started investigating the day a union backed a Republican. Should have known something was up.
SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)Yup.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)even though they are Union.
SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)Which brings me back to my original point. Any union member who votes for Republicans is dirty. Period.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)about JUST this subject. They complain and complain about their salaries and benefits package...but you cannot convince them that it is the Republicans that are messing those up!
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)right to work states. Even for being unionized in a right to works state, there's a huge difference.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Apparently he is even the least bigoted at his station....and his beliefs are stomach churning. I finally had to stop talking to him because his view on guns (even in light of his job) was just too much to bear. Hearing him and having him tell me he is afraid his friends at work will discover that he is not "as rightwing" as they are...just gave me nightmares.
rustbeltvoice
(429 posts)that is punitive, and i can go further, but you get the gist. There is no reason to be surprised that police are often Republicans. Most police have no problem coming down on labor in a protest. Recently in Ohio, Governor Kasich pushed for Senate Bill 5, the Cleveland police union president encouraged members to go and protest at the Capitol building, he did admit supporting Kasich over Governor Strickland a couple of months before. It is not unusual for Republicans to be against unions, and other sorts of things supported by most Democrats, UNTIL they get personally bit in the ass.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)and the Christie will emerge from the scandal stronger than ever.
Apparently all the weed smoking is causing him to confuse Chris Christie with Obiwan Kenobi.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)kimbutgar
(21,056 posts)Maher is also from New Jersey.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Is Chris Christie personal friends with Bruce Springstein too?
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)which I have never understood.
kidgie
(20 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)with that black a soul?
kidgie
(20 posts)whathehell
(29,034 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)Last week he said Christie is '350 pounds of toast'.
I watch him every week, usually agree with him, not always.
When did you hear him say this?
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)linked below.
I missed the "350 pounds of toast" remark from last week.
However he seems inconsistent:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/bill-maher-chris-christie-bridge-scandal-miley-cyrus-102195.html
The HBO show host said Tuesdays TV coverage was further proof of Christies benefit from the controversy.
All I saw was every network covering Chris Christies State of the State speech. When did you ever see networks cover a governors state of the state speech? Hes just a bigger star than ever right now, Maher said.
Maher also thinks the episode could play well with the Republican base.
I also dont think that this is going to be a scandal that is going to affect him negatively with the people in his own party. He keeps saying Im not a bully. Sure hes a bully, and thats what they like about him, Maher said. If he is not a bully, who is he? He is just [Sen.] Lamar Alexander. Theyre always looking for a bully in that party.
I think Maher is missing the high incriminating political corpses that may be unearthed by Christie's scandal
navarth
(5,927 posts)He might have said that Tuesday but I think Bill will skewer him from now on.
SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)sorry, should have provided one:
http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-blog.com/index/2014/2/14/msnbc-ya
SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)Maher can be quite the douchebag at times.
Seriously Bill, Bridgate is like Benghazi? Except that one was a made-up scandal and the other was an intentional stoppage of traffic for a week on our nation's busiest bridge for no other reason than illegal political retribution by the administration of the GOP's leading contender for 2016. Yeah, nothing to see here. Move along.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Link????
I watch him every week and I see him poking at Christie all the time, have never heard him say the investigation, and etc. were nonsense.
Where did you hear that????
I don't belive it until I see it.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)It's Valentine's Day, and I cannot go on any longer living a lie. MSNBC...we need to talk.
Whatever we had is not working any more. You're obviously interested in another man: Chris Christie. You're obsessed with him. So I wanted you to hear it from me first. I'm going to start seeing other news organizations. I'll miss what we had. It was a rocket ship ride. We were both passionate flaming liberals and we didn't care what the world thought of us. It was a glorious time. We finished each other's Sarah Palin jokes. But now we never talk about any of the things we used to talk about: global warming, gun control, poverty... All because Chris Christie came along and put you under his spell.
Look at yourself. You're turning into Fox News. Bridgegate has become your Benghazi, and this isn't easy to say, but you and I are no longer on the same news cycle. Sure, you read me the results of a recent Gallup poll, but you never really ask me how I'm feeling. It's not you, it's... Chris Christie.
You've stopped leaning forward. Look, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little lanes of traffic don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. You're a young news channel. You'll meet other viewers. It's for the best. You can focus on your career. And we can still be friends. We'll always have Obamacare.
Here's looking at you, kid.
http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-blog.com/index/2014/2/14/msnbc-ya
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...across the United States. Just how corrupt are American institutions?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and has been going on for at least 15 years..plenty of time for it to be a norm.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)marias23
(379 posts)Christie is brilliant. Can you imagine what would happen if we let him loose with federal police forces.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Paraguay!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)The fact the jobs were union jobs doesn't make this a union conspiracy.
groundloop
(11,514 posts)Of course you're correct, but the media along with their GOPer owners will grab onto this and it instantly becomes a nationwide story of union corruption.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Nuance, my friend, that's how headlines are made.
catbyte
(34,340 posts)Freedom Tower jobs if it's in Manhattan? Does NJ have jurisdiction over all PA locations? I thought NY was involved too.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)"The Port Authority police unions backing was the second major labor endorsement Christie lined up as part of his campaign to convince national Republican leaders that he could pull in votes from organized labor and other traditional Democratic constituencies, such as African-Americans and Hispanics, if he ran for the White House in 2016. The first major union endorsement came the month before from the Laborers International Union of North America led by Ray Pocino, whom Christie had appointed to the boards of both the Port Authority and the New Jersey Turnpike Authority."
He geared his entire reelection, not toward the citizens of NJ, but to boost his presidential aspirations.
Like Bill Maher said, "Chris Christie is 350 pounds of toast".
lindysalsagal
(20,592 posts)It all stinks, but it distracts us from the multinational corruption called the Koch brothers, and others.
IAmKirak
(36 posts)I hope the leadership goes down in flames.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Do you really think the union members made any of the decisions to close the lanes or blame the mayor? Those are management decisions. Rank and file just do as they are told.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)He said that union members named FRANKY were to get what they deserved. And how many union workers go by "Franky"?
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)IAmKirak
(36 posts)I think they should take their union votes a as seriously as their political votes. I think they should reject any leadership or political candidate with a hint Blue Doggery.
As to what they deserve? Well, when you back a teabagger, which Christie is, I guess they can expect collective bargaining repealed, or pensions stolen.
Choices have consequences.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)But the problem mentioned in the OP is that the rank and file of the union are getting blamed for management decisions, or do you think the union just decided on it's own to close the lanes leading to the bridge and blame it on the mayor?
As for union leadership, often you get who is willing to run, it is often a thankless job.
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Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)I'm pro-Democratic Party and of course I know some Democratic elected officials go bad. I'm sure even the most rabidly Pro-Business Republicans concede that some Business owners go bad also. That's why we have a criminal justice system, among other things.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)speaking at the annual convention of a police association (18,000 members in Tx.). Democrats need to try to make overtures to these groups if we expect to be able to march and protest in the future. Most cops are Republican because Democrats never try. I suspect that law enforcement will be the most surprised when the Repugs come for their unions. They may be last on the Republican's list of unions to crush, but they too are on the list!
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)So this should shock nobody. Money corrupts absolutely so follow the money. It is why regulation is so necessary. You need to criminalize corrupt activity. As it is everybody walks. Just look at banking and how none of the executives have even lost their jobs let alone served jail time. Fining the shareholders will not stop the criminal activity -- even when the fine is $16 billion. Lock them up. It is the only answer.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)The UAW missed an opportunity to shine in the south. The leadership of the UAW needs an attitude adjustment along with new leadership. (imho) There I said it, a lifelong supporter of what unions can do to support the working poor.
Money is not the only way to power.
libodem
(19,288 posts)When your own personal human pile of Brownshirts will come in handy.
musiclawyer
(2,335 posts)They come from union. But they get in management not because they are the best and brightest cops. Like politicians.
None of this should be surprising. Cops love fiefdoms and big budgets and they acquire them through political connections and criminalizing drugs.
Next time you vote for sheriff, or police chief, ask him or her if he is or has been social with other local politicians. If they say no, that is a mark in their favor ....
If they don't vote republican that's even better.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)
I am in favor of banning all union representation for anyone who has enforcement authority.
Cha
(296,863 posts)Christie Well tell the Christie admin they shouldn't have been so fooking corrupted then.
delish.. love the exposure of all their scamming bullshit. Really, how could the Christie admin pulled off Bridgegate without the PA police?
And, do ya think the PA police union will have to give up their sweet gig when all is exposed?
thanks kpete~