Boko Haram Islamic militants storm Nigeria boarding school, kill 29 children
Source: CBS
DAMATURU, Nigeria -- Gunmen from Islamist group Boko Haram stormed a boarding school in northeast Nigeria overnight and killed 29 pupils, many of whom died in flames as the school was burned to the ground, police and the military said on Tuesday.
“Some of the students bodies were burned to ashes,” Police Commissioner Sanusi Rufai said of the attack on the Federal Government college of Buni Yadi, a secondary school in Yobe state, near the state's capital city of Damaturu.
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The Islamists, whose struggle for an Islamic state in northern Nigeria has killed thousands and made them the biggest threat to security in Africa's top oil producer, increasingly are preying on the civilian population.
Boko Haram, whose name means “Western education is sinful” in the northern Hausa language, have frequently attacked schools in the past. A similar attack in June in the village of Mamudo left 22 students dead.
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Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boko-haram-islamic-militants-storm-nigeria-boarding-school-kill-29-children/
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JDPriestly
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SamKnause
(13,091 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Anything else I want to write will get me banned.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)Same here.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)Fuck them. Anyone that is unable to see the threat radical Islam presents is either blind or just plain stupid. Unfortunately too many on the left have this bizarre blind spot.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)
blackspade
(10,056 posts)The whole lot of them should be rounded up and burnt alive in a wicker man as a warning to others.
weissmam
(905 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Islamic extremists will rule by terror. Muslim moderates are largely powerless to stop these violent people fueled by a self-righteous doctrine from Hadith preached by a bunch of mullahs.
It is apparent from various parts of the world that a lot of muslims simply cannot live in a pluralistic secular society as individuals - they have to create an Islamic state and oppress women and minorities. e.g. Xin Jiang in China, Kashmir in India, Hizbollah in Lebanon or Boko Haram in Nigeria.
It is a sad commentary on a religion that claims to be a religion of peace no matter how contrary it is to its history of violence by the likes of Genghis Khan, Tamarlane or the Moghals.
If civilized societies give in to these separatist demands under egalitarian principles, they would have unending war with terrorist havens like Sudan, Afghanistan and Yemen on their hands for eternity.
Lasher
(27,552 posts)These zealots are a blight that needs eradication. It's an unpopular opinion around here but I think it's a great idea to use drones to kill people just like these.
starroute
(12,977 posts)He guaranteed freedom of religion, protecting the rights of Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, and Hindus alike. Genghis Khan himself worshiped the sky, but he forbade the killing of priests, monks, nuns, mullahs, and other holy people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan#Religion
He was religiously tolerant and interested in learning philosophical and moral lessons from other religions. To do so, he consulted Buddhist monks, Muslims, Christian missionaries, and the Taoist monk Qiu Chuji. The Secret History of the Mongols chronicles Genghis praying to the Burhan Haldun mountain.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That the murder of 29 children is exploited by the likes of you to further generate hatred in the world - time and time again, in your case.
Also, Temujin was a Tengriist.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)The kind of people are the ideal targets for drone action. Some surveillance and action is needed.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)Every time a drone kills an innocent when its being aimed at one of these bastards, the condemnation on DU is swift. Do I have a solution? No. But these guys know that hiding in a crowd is the safest place for them and they will keep on doing what they're doing until their own people turn on them.
Renew Deal
(81,851 posts)Why should the nigerian government?
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Under what pretext? As horrific as this group is, should the US use our drones to target anyone who does bad things?
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,226 posts)Let's get ya signed up!
http://www.todaysmilitary.com/contact-a-recruiter
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)There goes that "Religion of Peace" again...
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Every religion has its fanatics. The actions of a few don't taint the millions of peace loving Muslims.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)Islam is about submission to "Allah". Apparently that submission means giving up critical faculties to follow a bizarre violent ideology based on some medieval crackpot warlord's rantings.
There may be peaceful Muslims, but that's in spite of their religion being totally whack. I am not a fan of any religion (all require the surrender of all rational thought) but it's clear that one religion in particular sticks out in its ability to totally brainwash its followers into doing absolutely horrific things. Christianity was like that too over five hundred years ago, but fortunately secularism has washed over much of the West and has moderated the more extreme impulses (though in the US it obvious needs a lot of moderating).
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Nothing like religion to stir up a good dose of hatred.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)In an age when we are finding out so much about the universe through science and reason, it's just shocking to believe there is such hatred based on whose fictional sky daddy is best.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Thanks for your contribution, Fujiyama.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Read some of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk's writings and how he had to fight to bring sanity to Islam and its barbaric practices.
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an" Quran 009.111
"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means: For Allah is Most High, great." Quran 004.034
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Quran 009.029
"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing : But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks;" Quran 004.089
I know that most religions have violent and abhorrent writings -- Islam is no exception but there are hardly any followers of Judaism of Christianity who follow Leviticus or Deuteronomy. However, hundreds of millions follow the Q'uraan verbatim and tens of millions follow the Hadith which is ten-fold more violent than the Q'uraan.
There is no Islamophobia of persons simply because they are Muslim. However, there is phobia of behaviors that are routinely carried out by followers of Islam with no condemnation by any moderates.
If people of my religion carried out such atrocities, I'd condemn them with every ounce of strength in my body. When the peace-loving Muslims start doing that in droves, I'd be the first one to admit that I was wrong.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)So I want you to give me an argument. Muslims are these terrible monsters, right, these abominably cruel subhuman fiendss - or at least, willing accomplices to no shortage of barbaric and depraved actions, right?
That being the case, I want you to tell me what your argument against mass extermination is. Nothing so glib as "I'm just better than that," no, if these people are as huge and immediate and dangerous a threat as you insist, I want you to make a case for NOT just putting a gun to their collective heads and issuing the ultimatum, "abandon your religion or die." I mean it seems that if over a billion people spread across every nation on earth are really just these demonic sleeper agents waiting to pounce on and destroy us all - as your rhetoric surely indicates you believe - what's your justification for not simply advocating death camps?
I mean hey, plainly you're not advocating genocide here, but I want to know why you're not, if you actually believe in the shit you ARE actually saying.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)I never advocated mass extermination or anything close to that.
My point is that silence by 1+ billion Muslims emboldens the few who are committing barbaric acts under their name. Such silence is construed as tacit approval of the actions which goes against the "religion of peace" meme so often propounded.
When such silence is broken and the silent become vocal in their criticism of the barbaric acts and when Islamic leaders disown, disavow and excommunicate the violent extremists, there will be mass acceptance and tolerance of Islam. Until then, my prior post stands.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I wanted to know why not, given your rhetoric. You cast Muslims as this existential threat in dire need of control, lest they destroy us all. So. Why not?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)but their deafening silence about barbaric and violent acts lends them complacent and in their vulnerability, the whole world is rendered vulnerable.
I'd like to see a world where a predominantly Islamic country arrests, convicts and punishes the likes of Usama bin Laden instead of giving him refuge and comfort like Pakistan did.
I'd like to see a world where every leader of a predominantly Muslim country comes out swinging and condemns the acts like 9/11 vocally.
Until then, the threat exists.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)What is the whole world rendered vulnerable to? You're using apocalyptic language, and I want to know why you're avoiding apocalyptic solutions. You're already holding all Muslims on earth culpable for the actions of some of their number, you're talking about threats and world vulnerability, you've made it clear you feel the "problem" is inherent to the very thing that defines "Muslim."
So, given your position - clearly stated here and in other threads - what exactly is holding you back? You've got to have some rational argument against a worldwide crusade to bring the Muslim Menace to heel.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)I think that you're seeing far too much into what I wrote and coming to the apocalyptic conclusions on your own.
For the last time, I don't see ALL Muslims as a threat but only the violent extremists. My point is that as long as Muslims either support the acts of the extremists, remain silent about said acts or give comfort to those who commit such acts in the name of religion or otherwise, the world is vulnerable to such acts repeatedly.
End of discussion. Peace out.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That if a crazy Egyptian does some shit, a durian farmer in Malaysia absolutely must speak up about it. Yup, march his ass all the way up to Kuala Lumpur, find himself a media outlet - one that broadcasts to America, on a channel you favor - so he can chime in his two cents about the whole matter. Repeat for 1.7 billion people.
If they don't, they are apparently just as bad - "complicit" isn't it?
You've previously argued that Muslims need their thoughts controlled, when you were cheering for the fascist progression of Egypt's military junta, including its massacres of Cairenes. So I want to know why, if you're so adamant that the problem is Muslims overall - as your posts here on this thread have made abundantly clear - why not just "deal with them" in a similar way as that junta is? Mass murder, coersive control, mass imprisonment, whatever.
I would figure you had a lot of good answers for "why not" - but I guess you don't. But, at least you seem to have realized that your own horseshit was reaching Augean Stable depths, and have done some nice backpedaling. For now.
I look forward to your next Gellar-esque screed, with all its cherry-picked koran quotations, blanket condemnnation of nearly two billion people, and assertions of imminent worldwide threats, and the usual shit I've come to expect our of your sort. You're not unique and you're certainly not original.
And you're damn sure not bright enough to figure out how to condemn Boko Haram without both exploting the victims, and sucking 30% of Dearborn, Michigan's population into the blame as well, are you?
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)EX500rider
(10,829 posts)While Churchill was a soldier/war correspondent in India/Pakistan and the Sudan he said this about Islam:
“Besides the fanatical frenzy, …, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy, the effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist where the followers of the Prophet rule or live. … The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a sole man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. … Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”
I do think fundamentalists/extremist treat woman horribly in almost every religion, includ. Islam.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)
Xithras
(16,191 posts)Most Christians and Hindu's live quiet and peaceful lives without ever harming anybody. It's a loud and violent minority in both of those religions that causes most of the harm.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)To kill children.
Sicko perverts.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)I'm glad the U.S. is bombing the shit out of Islamic extremists who are engaged in such radical thoughts and actions. I hope the U.S. continues to keep the thumb on these disgusting shits.
cali
(114,904 posts)injustice.
You're just that reactive.
ugh.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)same words, on Free Republic during the Iraq invasion under George W. Bush.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)other attacks include this one in July of 2013
Eyewitnesses said some of the victims were burned alive in the attack, in Mamudo town, Yobe state.
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More than 600 people were believed to have been killed in 2012 by the group, which is fighting to overthrow the government and create an Islamic state in Nigeria's predominantly Muslim north
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23209181
and this assassination earlier this month
According to him, the prominent preacher who used to preach from 8am to 10am and repeat it at 4:30 to 6pm in his school in Gaskiya Layout, with a fresh sermon from 8pm to 10pm, was vocal against Boko Haram.
"He has been preaching against the Boko Haram sect. Everybody knows him with that. Even in his afternoon lectures he admonished members of the Boko Haram group to stop the killings and that what they were doing is not Islamic.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201402030364.html
Eugene
(61,843 posts)Source: Reuters
BY JOE HEMBA
DAMATURU, Nigeria Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:46pm EST
(Reuters) - Gunmen from Islamist group Boko Haram shot or burned to death 59 pupils in a boarding school in northeast Nigeria overnight, a hospital official and security forces said on Tuesday.
"Some of the students' bodies were burned to ashes," Police Commissioner Sanusi Rufai said of the attack on the Federal Government college of Buni Yadi, a secondary school in Yobe state, near the state's capital city of Damaturu.
Bala Ajiya, an official at the Specialist Hospital Damaturu, told Reuters by phone the death toll had risen to 59.
"Fresh bodies have been brought in. More bodies were discovered in the bush after the students who had escaped with bullet wounds died from their injuries," he said.
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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/25/us-nigeria-violence-idUSBREA1O1I920140225
aquart
(69,014 posts)Pretty sure not.