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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:03 PM Feb 2014

Tesla stock spikes on battery factory, autonomous driving hopes

Source: San Jose Mercury News

PALO ALTO -- Already trading at record levels, Tesla Motors stock shot up nearly 20 percent Tuesday morning after a respected analyst predicted that the electric-car company's plans to build its own batteries and help cars drive themselves will more than double its value.

Tesla shares moved as high as $257.97 in Tuesday's morning session on Wall Street, a gain of $40.32, or 18.5 percent, from Monday's record closing price of $217.65. The stock closed at $248.00, up 13.9 percent.
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Tuesday's renewed excitement was credited to a note from Adam Jonas, a Morgan Stanley analyst known for his Tesla research. In the note -- titled "Nikola's Revenge: Tesla's New Path of Disruption" -- Jonas more than doubled his price target on the stock, from $153 to $320, and said Tesla could become dominant by manufacturing its own batteries and pioneering autonomous driving. "Tesla may achieve pole position for the two most transformational developments in the auto industry over the next 5, 10 and 20 years: electrification and autonomous vehicle technology," Jonas wrote.

Autonomous cars are also on Tesla's to-do list, with Musk admitting last year that he has spoken with Google about the Mountain View company's ambitions in that area, but decided against Google's sensor-driven approach. "It's better to have an optical system, basically cameras with software that is able to figure out what's going on just by looking at things," Musk told Bloomberg News.



Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25224016/tesla-stock-spikes-battery-factory-autonomous-driving-hopes



Sounds like Musk may make fossil fuel cars obsolete as buggy whips.

After reporting a $16-million adjusted loss for the fourth quarter last week, Tesla shares have soared and Monday hit a new high. They rose 3.8% or $8.05 to close at $217.65. A year ago, the stock closed at $33.80. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/24/tesla-stock-overvalued/5779359/
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“It’s truly a groundbreaking car,” Jake Fisher, Consumer Reports’ director of auto testing who oversaw this year’s review of 260 vehicles, said an interview with Bloomberg. “You get into it, and it really stands out. It’s the very best car I’ve ever driven.”
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Tesla stock spikes on battery factory, autonomous driving hopes (Original Post) ErikJ Feb 2014 OP
A friend of mine has made about a million bucks on Tesla stock. nt onehandle Feb 2014 #1
There are 2 electric cars The Wizard Feb 2014 #2
Lithium cells aren't particularly toxic and they recycle easily Fumesucker Feb 2014 #5
Teslas with battery problems Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #7
There's no such thing as a perfect technology Fumesucker Feb 2014 #11
Time to short the stock cosmicone Feb 2014 #3
slippery slope father founding Feb 2014 #4
Thank you cosmicone Feb 2014 #6
Cramer: Tesla investors are "playing with fire" - TSLA valuation based on hope Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #8
Cramer doesn't get a lot of respect around here daleo Feb 2014 #9
Tesla has only turned a profit for 1 quarter. Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #10
Any successful startup will lose money until it makes money daleo Mar 2014 #12

The Wizard

(12,536 posts)
2. There are 2 electric cars
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:38 PM
Feb 2014

in Edison's estate in West Orange, NJ. Edison knew a few things about electricity. The biggest negative is how to dispose of worn out batteries in an environmentally sound manner.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. Lithium cells aren't particularly toxic and they recycle easily
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:08 AM
Feb 2014

Not to mention these days the cells are expected to last the life of the vehicle, plenty of hybrids running around with over 200,000 miles on the original battery pack.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. There's no such thing as a perfect technology
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:36 AM
Feb 2014

Each of those replaced packs has been subjected to detailed scrutiny to find the problem and analysis to correct that problem.

That's the way maturing a technology works, you run it until something breaks, do what you think will fix that issue and run it until either that breaks again or something else breaks. Lather rinse and repeat basically forever.

Moving parts are what breaks in cars for the most part, an EV has quite a lot fewer moving parts than does an intermittent combustion engine powered car.





 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
3. Time to short the stock
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:59 PM
Feb 2014

The market value cannot be justified.

They simply don't have enough production capacity to create a return on investment. They also don't make their own bodies but OEM them from Lotus and VW.

This bubble has to burst soon.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
6. Thank you
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 01:36 AM
Feb 2014

for that informative and analytical post written with logical and rational counterarguments.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
9. Cramer doesn't get a lot of respect around here
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:12 AM
Feb 2014

In fact, his dissing of Tesla is likely to be seen as an affirmation.

Mother Muckraker

(116 posts)
10. Tesla has only turned a profit for 1 quarter.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:25 AM
Feb 2014

Tesla has only turned a profit for 1 quarter. They suffered a loss quarter after quarter; yet their valuation is a little more than 1/2 of GM. GM sells 9.7 million cars for 2013 while Tesla sells ~22,000 cars. TSLA valuation is well into bubble territory.

Tesla also has 5 fires to date and 2 industrial accidents (that we are aware of).

That's not "dissing" Tesla. Those are the facts.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
12. Any successful startup will lose money until it makes money
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:25 PM
Mar 2014

Regular cars catch on fire, even explode with some regularity.

Tesla is overvalued, unless it's technology is the up and coming thing. Then it might even be undervalued. Time will tell.

As for Cramer, he has been wrong about a lot of stocks.

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