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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 04:02 PM Feb 2014

Ukraine crisis: New government revealed at Kiev's protest camp

Source: BBC



Ukraine's new interim government has been presented at Kiev's main protest camp, the Maidan, following last week's ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych.

Arseniy Yatsenyuk has been nominated to become prime minister. The cabinet - due to be voted by MPs on Thursday - includes a number of Maidan activists.

It is facing daunting challenges, including fixing Ukraine's struggling economy which faces default.

Meanwhile, Mr Yanukovych has been put on the international wanted list. The fugitive president - whose whereabouts are unclear - is accused of being behind last week's deaths of more than 100 protesters at the hands of riot police at and around the Maidan.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26359150



In the 2010 presidential campaign he was verbally attacked by "fellow candidate Serhiy Ratushniak repeatedly insulted Yatsenyuk because of his alleged Jewish roots, among others Ratushniak called Yatsenyuk an "impudent little Jew"..."

The article I saw didn't confirm that Yatsenyuk is Jewish, but the neo-Nazi folks cannot be happy about this.

From the wiki article on him:

Yatseniuk wants European Union membership for Ukraine.[65] and he sees this "because this means standards and values – a [high] level of education, medical treatment, pensions, employment, freedoms, new technologies, and progress"

Yatseniuk is against privatization of state property[69]...

Late July 2010 Yatsenyuk wrote a draft law which proposed to fine officials for violating the law "On Appeals by Citizens", thus holding officials personally accountable for ignoring the complaints of citizens.[79]

In November 2009 he proposed that a referendum be held on if Ukraine should have an open list voting system.
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Ukraine crisis: New government revealed at Kiev's protest camp (Original Post) pampango Feb 2014 OP
Might be better off with Arsène Wenger. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #1
I'm trying to figure why he mentioned EU membership dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #2
Nationalization has been done before. Isn't the debt owed to Russia, not the EU? A DUer wrote this: freshwest Feb 2014 #3
Yes - most current debt is owed to Russia dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #4
Fuller list on Wikipedia, with parties where applicable: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #5
Yatsenyuk approved by a big majority of parliament muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #6

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. I'm trying to figure why he mentioned EU membership
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:20 PM
Feb 2014

which isn't currently on the table and the reference to medical treatment defeats me completely.

He's also delusional if he thinks all state assets won't beome foreign owned when they can't repay the preposterous amount of debt which will arise as a result of going with the west.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. Nationalization has been done before. Isn't the debt owed to Russia, not the EU? A DUer wrote this:
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:55 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:29 AM - Edit history (1)

As I understand it, the interim President is a member of the All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland" party

which, on reading about it, sounds like a mix of the conservative republican party in the US and socialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ukrainian_Union_%22Fatherland%22

Ideology and stances

Batkivshchyna has an eclectic ideology; the party stated it advocates "European values" and "a high level of living for people".

The party wants to simplify procedures for opening and closing of businesses. It also wants to "establish a new minimum wage and will raise wages and pensions and lower taxes" and it wants to limit the kinds of taxes to seven and simplify the methods of payment and "minimise the possibility of tax evasion through offshore companies". It also wants to create "public non-profit construction company that will build affordable housing".

The party wants a campaign against corruption. It advocates an "anti-corruption lustration" whereby state officials' expenses and property values are compared with their tax declarations. If there is a discrepancy, the officials will be criminally charged and banned from public office. It wants to establish a "National Anti-Corruption Bureau" modeled on the FBI (an idea that has circulated in Ukraine since the late 1990s). The party believes that what has been "stolen" through corrupt tenders and insider privatizations should be returned to the state budget. Organizing election fraud will be criminally liable and voting in parliament for absent lawmakers punishable.

According to the party, only citizens of Ukraine will have the right to private ownership of land, but "high concentration of land in one hand" will not be allowed.

The party sees Ukrainian membership in the European Union (EU) as a strategic goal and wants to "cancel humiliating visa regimes" and a visa-free travel for Ukrainians to the EU. It would like to see "a mutually beneficial and equitable agreement on the establishment of free trade with Russia". In June 2013 the parties parliamentary faction voted for the denunciation of the 2010 Ukrainian–Russian Naval Base for Natural Gas treaty. The parties 2012 election program did not mention NATO.

The party wants to prosecute "Law enforcement involved in political repression" and to impeach current Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his “anti-people regime” to "return Ukraine to the path of European integration".

The party tries to reverse the Azarov Government policy of raising the status of the Russian language.

The party is in favor of party-list proportional representation elections with open lists. And Citizens' Initiative's after 50,000 signatures are collected. The party also wants to empower local governance.

Government grants should be awarded to graduates who successfully passed testing for studies at Ukrainian universities.

The basis of Ukraine's health system will be mandatory health insertion and the gradual development of voluntary health insurance by employers.

The party wants to introduce jury trials into the Ukrainian law system and wants to "depoliticise" the process of appointment of judges. It also wants an independent judiciary that will increase the role of the Supreme Court of Ukraine. The Constitutional Court of Ukraine, "which has compromised itself with decisions that were ordered (by the Yanukovych administration)," should be liquidated.

The criminal code be "Europeanized" and law enforcement brought under civil control.

The party wants to improve human rights in Ukraine.

The party believes that the Holodomor was genocide of the Ukrainian nation.


It appears they have a plan for governance. I heard in some videos they want to protect their elderly and disabled.

EDIT:

I thought perhaps the former leader was enforcing austerity measures already, but it turns out he was just supporting the oligarchy and leaving people with no redress for their greviances.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. Yes - most current debt is owed to Russia
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:32 PM
Feb 2014

and there is no question of even consideration of any of that being written down. Those payments are due in Rubles : all of their repayments will be due in foreign currency depending on origin of funds and their currency is tanking.

The IMF had already refused further funding after Ukraine defaulted on condition in both 2008 and 2010. As such it is likely the IMF will tell the US and EU to piss off if they ask for help now.

To recap - yesterday Ukraine said it need $30 billion or so. One of the reasons that the EU trade talks broke down was because at that point Ukraine said they needed $8 billion to get them through to the autumn but the EU offered only 1 billion Euros.

I saw your post at the same time I found this :

The US has offered Ukraine's struggling economy - which faces default - loan guarantees of up to $1bn (£600m).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26359150

One measly billion ? Fat lot of that will do - underwriting loans of up to $1 billion from others.

On the heath subject you mentioned - there have been occasional comments here in the past which refer to the UK's free health service. It isn't free but it is universal . The apparent running cost to both employees and employers is currently c. 25% of gross annual wages in simple terms. If the Ukraine wants something like that then the cost may mirror the UK's figures. It doesn't follow that is affordable

I wish the Ukrainian people well but must confess that at present they may have lost touch with reality. What they needed was a plan which would have allowed a transition between Russian trade and the EU to be able to trade with both. Its still not out of the bounds of possibility that a triple agreement could be reached to more or less suit all parties in this debacle.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
5. Fuller list on Wikipedia, with parties where applicable:
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:25 AM
Feb 2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_February_2014_National_Unity_Government

6 from 'Fatherland', 2 from the far right 'Svoboda', 11 no party (a few posts have no name by them yet)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
6. Yatsenyuk approved by a big majority of parliament
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014
Ukraine's parliament has approved Arseniy Yatsenyuk as the country's new prime minister.

The vote was held today amid the sharp rise in tensions in the southern Crimea region, where gunmen seized local government buildings and raised a Russian flag.

The 39-year-old Yatsenyuk has previously served as the economy minister and foreign minister, and a Speaker of parliament.

He was approved by 371 votes in the 450-member parliament.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/arseniy-yatsenyuk-approved-as-new-ukraine-pm-1.1706052


BBC live updates say 317 votes, so one report is a typo. But both show many Party of Regions votes supported him - they had 185 seats after the last election.
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